New York is obsolete.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on August 13, 2010 at 7:45 AM
The only impressive thing New York City has done in the last 25 years is convincing the world that it doesn’t suck.
Posted by SurlyYurmom on August 13, 2010 at 7:48 AM
What, exactly, has come out of New York that will be remembered by the world’s billions of muslims if the hate mongers succeed? What great work of art? What philosOphy? It will forever be remembered as the city that gave in to hate.
Posted by Vince on August 13, 2010 at 8:00 AM
Sui generis, baby. Viva Mudede.
Posted by gloomy gus on August 13, 2010 at 8:16 AM
A-Rod ruined NYC.
Posted by DOUG on August 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM
nyc gargles balls….
Posted by Josh Bomb on August 13, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Fuck you, New York! Gently with long strokes. Mmm, you like that. Such a sexy bitch.
Posted by Baconcat on August 13, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Most of Brooklyn outside of the hip areas are crappy places to live. No restaurants, no shops, only seriously red-lined grocery stores that sell little else than iceberg lettuce and pig’s feet. It may be diverse, but it has little culture. You have to spend 20 minutes on the G train to get anywhere interesting.
Posted by keshmeshi on August 13, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Isn’t New York just a 6x bigger circle jerk than Seattle is? Doesn’t that just make more of a mess?
well i guess there’s just no accounting for taste.
Que viva!
#1 NY is 6 times everything Seattle is – this is ridiculous – The smell of vegans & the over the top PC attitude throughout the streets of Seattle makes one want to vomit. How do i know? I live in San Francisco and we have the same attitude problem here but then again at least San Francisco is an internationally known destination. We have the rude German tourist to prove it!!
repeating myself here from an earlier post… but reposting in a self satisfied NYC way that must annoy the hell out of you
“I totally get that the weather may be more tolerable in Seattle in july… but i think the thing to remember is that NYC doesn’t have to spend an entire day assembling cherry picked facts to make a case for being a better city than somewhere else… this is called confidence and is something that happens when people feel secure in themselves. think of those guys with loud motor cycles that we all assume have teeny penises and old fat men with flashy cars pretending that you wont notice the toupee because “look, my car is better than yours!” thats who i compare you to after reading a full day of my FAVORITE BLOG ON THE WEB crapping on my city…
so yeah
keep bitchin about what a LAME city NYC is…
cause yeah… perhaps one day everyone in the world will know a song by heart that has SEATTLE in the title… or dream of making it in the seattle art/theater/business scene… maybe someday people living in huts in deserts will dream of living in seattle… maybe someday you will need 3 airports in your area to welcome the international visitors… perhaps one day france will gift you a huge beautiful statue for you wonderful harbor that will be a major symbol of American Pride… maybe someday you will have europeans give you a pass when you say, “oh, im not an american, im a seattleite.” the way they do when you say you are from NYC… i could go on, but this queen tries not to protest too much…
and
i am not knocking seattle
i read slog daily because i think seattle is great
and slog is great
but you do yourself a disservice when you start sounding like a jealous ex boyfriend who talks about his ex getting fat after they broke up…
sorry we make you feel inferior enough to spend the day crapping on us… but we get it… it’s ok… it’s actually pretty common…
so yeah… how bout you go to the site of the future chilully museum, whip out a fancy Microsoft PDA and look up the metropolitan museum of art, or the guggenheim, or the MOMA, or the Whitney, or the Museum of Natural History, and then think about what a LAME city we are…
i can only imagine the vitriol i am about to be handed… but yeah… keep comparing yourself to us… it doesn’t diminish you in the slightest…
i gotta run cause i am late to grab lunch… i spose i will run out the door of my office and go to one of the hundreds of amazing eateries in soho… while i walk by a ton of amazing art galleries and try to avoid all the international tourists who have flocked to our city on their summer vacations…
Cheers!”
^
its working
@5: So if boasting about Seattle over NYC is akin to having a small penis, what do we assume of people who actually take the boasting seriously?
My vote’s on inverted vagenis.
@ianbync: tl; dr
If you’re quoting John Bailo, you’re losing. Sorry.
@6 – Thanks!
@8 – ??
Yeah, you win alright. Maybe if you did this every day for about 10 years, New Yorkers might actually notice that Seattle exists. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
@10 tl;dr = too long;didn’t read
put another one up there for Seattle having better nerds & trolls.
@10: “too long; didn’t read”
Or if you prefer, the lady dost protest too much, methinks.
But this just proves the point @5. I mean, is there any example you can cite about the superiority of New York City that ISN’T from 30 or more years ago? I mean, talk about cherry-picking…
(Besides which, I don’t know any song by Heart that has NEW YORK in the title, either!)
And IME, Europeans LOVE Seattle! NYC has 9/11: an epically tragic event to be sure. But, Seattle has WTO: an epic anti-globalization protest rally, which, even though there have been numerous meetings since Seattle’s, most Europeans – at least the ones I’ve met there – still quite fondly associate with Our Fair City, and which will in point of fact garner you a pass from them.
In short: New Yorkers get a pass from Europeans because tragedy elicits sympathy; Seattleites get a pass from them because resistance elicits solidarity.
Take it from here, Rem Kookhaas:
If I can make it there, I’ll make it anywhere…
Woooooooooooooooo! SpspspspokeCAN! Yeah, ya hear me say SPOKE IN A CAN! Spoooooooooookane!
You philistines with your highrises and fancy rents don’t know what you’re missin’! I said SPOKANE!
I’ve lived in both cities. Can’t we all just get along?
I live in NYC. Fuck this place. HATE HATE HATE, can’t wait until I can move.
Seriously, Seattle AND New York have been played out for sooooo long. Look at all that trash in the streets. I think y’all are missing out on a little something called the Garbage Eating Goat. And your sculpture park may be… welllll… sorta interesting, but do any of those sculptures have a SLIDE? Case closed, the Giant Red Wagon is way better. Oh, and who needs nasty ass Puget Sound when you have Priest and Pend’Oreille right around the corner. Finally, you may be all into fighting The Man and shit, but have you ever been able to protest against actual Nazis? Like, real Nazis with fuckin swastika armbands on?! Yeah, I thought not!
Case closed, Spokane is America’s favorite city! I <3 Spokane, motherfuckers!
BEST COAST!
Thankfully, no one in New York will notice.
hangin’ on the corner of 52nd. and Broadway
cars passin’ by but none of them seem to be goin’ my way
New York City
well I wish I was on a highway
back to olympia
because our heroin is way better than any pansy ass east coast heroin.
If NYC imported all of our aging hippies and granola-heads I would hate NYC because those things are both annoying.
@14 really?
do you guys all really think that all ny has to offer is feelings of sympathy for 9/11
as someone who was here and saw it happen with my own eyes, i can tell you that the good thoughts from the rest of the world were very well appreciated but there was never a moment when we felt like anyone understood what happened fully… and then we picked up and moved on… rebuilt lives for the people who lost loved ones and then continued to live while the rest of the world (and giuliani) never shut up about it… ask a nyer if they wanna discuss 9/11… we don’t… we don’t need to anymore… the only time it comes up in conversation is when an out of town guest wants to talk about it or go visit it like its a damn amusement park
and really nothing in the last 30 years? god… i had no idea that seatlites(?) were so bitter and angry towards us… we may have birthed giuliani and regularly export crap like sex and the city… but you guys sent us all the asshole hipster douch bags in williamsburg and made not showering popular…
anyway…
it seems i have become the face of ny here today… so i will back off and let you guys crap on this city… you are all correct that i have defended my city too much…
and congrats on your anarchy party with the WTO… i also thought it was pretty cool… oh… and u also have great weed there…
so yeah
thats me being gracious to your city and extending a hand of friendship… its something i have learned from having the UN here
haters gonna hate. i love both cities.
Dead on, NYC is garbage BUT Seattle is FULL of assholes and everything is so fucking expensive. I grew up in Seattle and when I moved to NYC I was all “Seattle is SO GREAT, this shithole is full of shit, etc.”
Then I went back to Seattle and realized how SUPER-SHITTY it was.
Nowhere is perfect but all places are better than Yakima
@19: REPRESENT!
You really should have bolded gargles balls.
This is SO DAMN BORING and stupid. Who gives a shit? I certainly don’t. I’m going to take a few days off from reading Slog until this shit dies down…. Thanks for filling my favorite news blog with unreadable city battling shit.
NYC pwns Seattle in almost every conceivable way (weather and scenery the notable exceptions). I mean seriously, you’re joking right?
So, one of your writers kills a horse, and the rest just feel that need to flail away at its carcass.
now that is west coast classy.
Why have you been BASHING New York all fricken week? It’s getting old.
The thing that makes Seattle and New York awesome, at least in my opinion, is geography! Both cities are locked in by water forcing the need to build up and maximize land usage. Both are port cities, and well … because of land efficiency, high rises, and public transport both cities are decent enough metropolises.
In all fairness though, people in the Pacific Northwest are arrogant, exclusive ass holes! I mean it’s possible to warm up to you, and it might take a while, but the New Yorkers … are friendlier, in a very strange sort of way.
Once you get over their brutish mannerisms, they are quite well spoken masters of the gray, and you will find your niche … well relatively quickly despite how few people give you eye contact on the street.
In Seattle, you have to make it through the VERY painful induction period of six months without jumping off the Ballard bridge and then you are cool, or at least cool enough.
What started this city dick measuring contest anyways?
you guys do realize that no one in NYC even reads Gawker anymore, right?
I miss posts about breast-feeding tiger babies.
New York is a shitbox, come to think of it….so is most the eastern seaboard.
Sounds like everyone wants to be Portland now.
@36: Or SPOKANE.
@32: nailed it.
Taking someone else’s inventory of problems is a great way to avoid focusing on your own. Instead of transcending the old tired, arguments and trying to create a new paradigm here, you are, indeed, just hauling your dick out for another measuring contest. Only an insecure middle school mentality can think this is a good idea. NYC art scene inbred? Provincial? Sure, I can see that. Care to look in the mirror, however?
One thing I’ve noticed in life is that those who can, do. Those who can’t, talk. Endlessly. Ever notice how the self-congratulatory the local media and so very, very many people are here? God, we are so in love with the smell of our own farts (think South Park episode about San Fran). We repeat how great it is here over and over. As if to convince ourselves.
As a native who’s visited and lived in other cities, I’m eager to leave and will as soon as I’ve saved the money. While I wouldn’t move to New York, the average person on the street there has about three times the joie de vivre and spark of the average Seattleite.
There are a lot of great things about Seattle, but a world-class city it ain’t. And it doesn’t necessarily need to be. Seattle will be a truly great city once it gets over its decades-long identity crisis and stops playing by other peoples’ rules.
@24:
So you’re saying most of those people screaming “we don’t want no stinkin’ mosque near Ground Zero!” AREN’T from the City?
And hey, they were YOUR examples; if you had some that were more relevant – and timely – it’s not my problem you didn’t see fit to use them.
Plus, everybody knows all the “hipster douchebags” in Williamsburg came from the trust fund families of Boston, Philly, Baltimore, et al – they just appropriated all of Seattle’s hipster trappings (kickball, flannel, facial hair, cheap, crappy lager-in-a-can), all of which only makes them even LAZIER than Seattle trust-fund hipsters.
But, to your credit, you’ve been a one-man (?) “I <3 NYC” juggernaut here on SLOG today, no easy task, even for an uber-cynical, jaded, imperturbable (yet uncharacteristically defensive) East Coast urbanite, and if you ever make it to our side of the continent, I’d consider it an honor to buy you a real beer.
Now, fuck off and go back to yer shit-hole condo in Park Slope…
@29:
I’m really curious: why is it that so many people who claim to “not give a shit” are nevertheless compelled to tell everyone else HOW MUCH they don’t give a shit?
I mean, isn’t that, in point of fact, GIVING A SHIT?
@32:
I would point out for the record that a fairly large plurality of people IN the Pacific Northwest are not in fact FROM the Pacific Northwest.
Remember that (very old) joke about “tipping the country and watching all the nuts roll towards the Pacific Northwest”? (well, maybe you don’t – it IS a very old joke). While it’s true the older immigrants and their progeny (amongst which I include myself, having been born in OR), do frequently adopt a rather terse Scandinavian standoffishness, it’s important to acknowledge the increasingly large groups of much more recent immigrants from other parts of the country, many of whom have come here for reasons even they often have trouble articulating, and yet, who, almost immediately upon arriving begin incessantly bitching about how “Seattle isn’t like (insert name of whatever shitty town they couldn’t get out of fast enough)”. So, if our response seems to be one of “so, what the FUCK are you doing here anyway, if you hate it so much?”, you must understand much of this stems from our simple inability to comprehend why someone would develop this seemingly pathological need to diss the PNW in favor of the hell-hole they left to come here from; I mean, is it just some form of mass psychotic homesickness brought about by the perpetual gray-and-drizzle here? Seriously, what is it?
Oh, and by the way, just on general principle: Fuck the Stranger and 90% of the writers who write for it. You are (with some exceptions) a microcosm of all that is lame, shitty, self-satisfied, and socially inbred about Seattle. Which is quite a lot, actually. Fuck you and your thinly-disguised suburban mentality masquerading as edginess. Please.
Honestly, I just feel bad for Dan Savage, who appears to be the only one there with any sense and depth to him. Dan, you rule; I just feel bad whenever I think about you surrounded by those losers. It’s like watching friggin’ Ichiro serving time with the Mariners. Yikes.
They do have better subways, mind you.
Ah, but the real question is @42 (as I addressed in a previous comment):
If you hate it so fucking much, why do you keep reading it?
@44: I don’t and haven’t for a long time…for precisely the reasons I just outlined. I kinda let myself get embroiled in this thread while following a Facebook post, though.
We met in the springtime at a rock’n’roll show, it was in the Bowery when it was time to go. Kissed on the subway in the middle of the night, I held your hand, you held mine — it was the best night of my life.
Cuz everyone’s your friend in New York City, and everything looks beautiful when you’re young and pretty. The streets are paved with diamonds and there’s just so much to see. But the best thing about New York City is YOU AND ME.
Thank you, Lisa Marr (Cub) for the Fnarf Family theme song.
@5 ianbnyc lost me at that part about bragging to Europeans about not being an American, but a New Yorker. That’s just crass, Sarah Jessica.
@29 – agreed, what a lousy day on Slog. That’s the trouble with the entire Stranger staff being stoned – they don’t realize when something isn’t funny. Instead they laugh hysterically among themselves and say, “Wait! Wait! I have another one!”
There were maybe three posts today that didn’t involve this stupid running joke. I’ll check back in a couple days to see if they’ve gotten over themselves.
@COMTE, the fact that few people are from the Pacific Northwest in Seattle is what gives Seattle it’s livability. The rest of the Pacific Northwest, oh god they are ruthless!
I lived in Oregon for six years! Gossipy, exclusive dicks! Extremely polarized demographic, and people really didn’t talk to each other. They were sexually repressed and judgemental. I’ve never met so many liberal women preach the mommy track, at the same time … never met so many working single mothers. I tried so hard, but if I wasn’t into hairy pits, money hating, and babies, I was never going to get into it.
I mean, I like Seattle and I like new york! I think the people are more beautiful in New York (in the real gritty sort of thing) I think the city itself is prettier in Seattle.