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Wonder if something similar would have the same sort of impact if a woman came up to me snivelling about the evils of homosexuality. (Except I've never had that happen, hmm...)
Having said that, if I am ever faced with a bigot telling me that homosexuality is a choice, I will happily unzip & tell him what part of my body he can choose to wrap his choice around, just to see the look on his face.
@14 -- Yes, I agree; homosexuality and bisexuality should be legal and okay even if they're chosen. But many LGBTQ people have tried very hard to be straight and failed, and it'll galling to those people to have someone tell them it's a choice when they tried with all their might to choose to be straight ... and it still didn't work.
It's wonderful that some LGBTQ people today DON'T try to be straight first. One does violence to one's psyche with that maneuver. But I think even in this day and age, most LGBTQ people do try to be straight first, because it's an easier life. Of course, coming out as queer gave me things that I wouldn't pass up, now that I know about them. But I didn't know I was going to get them when I made the decision to accept my queerness.
@8: They don't think the last three are sins, despite them being commanded in the OT. They typically make up some excuse like that those only applied to Hebrew civil society or that god changed his mind when he came to earth or something. And they definitely do fight against premarital sex in various ways.
As an adolescent I got heavily involved in a Christian youth group, which I thought would please my parents but they were surprisingly unenthusiastic.
Out of curiosity, I asked my "youth pastors" about things like the role of women and if homosexuality was a sin. This was a United church (we even had a female minister!). The answers I got, from the smartest one, were that, although men are given power over women, by god, good men use that power to grant their wife equal rights in a marriage. Ta-da! And yes, homosexuality is a sin.
2 things happened after that: first of all, lit. nerd that I was, I decided to read the bible, front to back, and (and this will date me, for sure) I saw the movie "Philedalphia". The bible was horrifying. Enough said. The movie was absolutely beautiful to my 14-yr old mind (ok, I had a huge crush on Antonio Banderas and Tom was cute too) and it made me decide that love is beautiful, and should never be undermined by someone's narrow idea of what it should be. Tom & Antonio, and the Neil Young title song...wow! the romantic in me quit religion right then and there, for many reasons, but that one the most powerfully.
Ironically now I've lost my faith in "soulmate" love (in favour of the realistic thing) but the logic of what I realized at age 14 about sexual orientation has remained true.
Choicers are so wrong. And so tangled up in their own anxiety! They all need a slap. Go read some books! Watch some movies! Do some travelling! Get your head out of it's own miserable mush! Enjoy the world around you! Try something new, if it doesn't turn you into a quivering jellyfish of fear! Yeesh.
It's basically just to take the piss out of the gay-haters. And works like a charm.
Go, Adam, go! :D
They might actually suck your dick.
And us gay guys know that there is indeed such a thing as a bad blowjob. (I don't think straight guys know this, but it's not a secret.)
Although putting up w/ one of these loons on the end of your cock for a few minutes might be considered "losing the battle to win the war". I'm not trying to stop anyone, I just want people to think this cunning plan all the way through.
And - Way To Go, Adam!!!
But I'm a scientist, you know? And very little about humans is really completely biologically deterministic. Saying that people are born gay and there is no way to influence that during development opens us up to counterattack if the facts don't bear that out, and they won't bear that out 100% of the time because real life is complicated.
Anyway, I'm digressing. Well played, Adam.
This is probably the only part that a bystander would notice.
While I agree with Adam's sentiment and anger, making a public scene isn't always the classiest thing to do. Adam's immediate "get the fuck away from me!" from the get go seemed needlessly crass to me, and I curse like a sailor.
A heterosexual chooses not to engage in homosexual behavior and this PROVES that homosexual behavior is innate uncontrollable and unchosen?
>>"Oh Yeah?! YOU eat 8,000 calories a day and put on 400 pounds, you bigoted asshole!"
>>"Well that PROVES IT, doesn't it? I can't help but be a lardass....."
"well, yes, we see your point...."
Anyway, I've also thought it would be easier to just declare gay a religion and even get tax breaks on my bar tab. Rumpspringa will definitely be part of the religion, in case anyone asks.
1. I get three olives in my dirty martini. Three. Not two. Three olives are divine. Two are vulgar and unholy.
2. Where is my dirty martini.
Goes to show you, inside every gay hater is probably a homo.
But first, I'll set aside some bail money.
We gays have many good points of reason against the bigotry, but this is not one of them. If a religious evangelist believes it's a choice, then he/she would only feel more righteous for having chosen not to suck dick. It's no surprise that shitbrains was stunned and had nothing to say; your logic makes no sense.
Of course they say no, they have never thought about men that way. And you respond that they were born straight, proving it was not a choice.
Or they say yes and it's really awkward and sad.
Could you please verify that fact by fucking your mother's cat?
the cat is no hairier than your mother and you never shirk from bonking her.....)
1) it is a wonderful way to confound the haters.
2) I would love start approaching attractive men to tell them that their lifestyle choice is a dirty dirty sin. And should they unzip...so be it.
It's so good to start my day with good news like that! :-)