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[this has nothing to do w/ the butt plug, obviously; I'm stuck on the birth control only part of the time thing]
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Conte…
Also, fecal transplants are useless unless you have C.diff colitis! Why do you keep bringing this up????? Why????
I feel like sometimes we're supposed to pretend butt sex is totally not gross and sometimes we're allowed to acknowledge that, well, ok, it involves the butt and poop and yeah that's definitely got its gross aspects unless you have a thing for poop.
@ 11 - @ 8 beat you to it. =D
What bugs me and was well defined in yesterday's letter, are the number of fools who think going into buttsex au naturale, including dirty holes and rectums, is how it's done. Gross.
Do a quick bathroom trip if you're gonna do the buttsex. It's not that difficult and well worth the trouble.
Homosexuality is totally natural.
Just ask the penguins.
So do anal like penguins do anal:
douche your ass with bleach,
triple condom, and latex gloves,
spread plastic sheeting over the bed,
then go enjoy natural normal love the way nature intended.
Based on my 3 minutes with google, it seems that what little research there is on this subject suggests the effects of transferring fecal matter between butts is benign and in some cases beneficial, as "fecal transplants" are used to treat certain bowel problems.
Having anal sex without a condom is more dangerous: slightly raised risk for UTIs (I think that is why SAP mentioned that they don't use protection other than as birth control).
Having enemas regularly would probably also pose a higher risk: flushing the bacteria from the distal parts of the colon up to more proximal parts (before having it all flush out) can cause an infection even though the bacteria wouldn't cause an infection when they stayed at the end of the colon. The colon is not just a "poop chute" but a very diverse ecosystem with lots of different niches.
So, people who regularly bare-back and have enemas are just squeamish if they think sharing an easily cleaned butt-plug is icky. Nothing wrong with being squeamish but it is not really scientific.
It involves dilution to a practically clear liquid and injecting higher up the intestine.
Buying a second butt plug is all good and well if you only plan to own one butt plug each. But if you're a toy collector, it's going to get awfully expensive to own two of every kind. And how are you supposed to remember which butt plug belongs to which partner?
If your partner's cooties don't stop you from putting your dick or fingers in them, then I don't really see the cootie fear. Use safe materials and clean them properly between uses, and you don't have to worry about it.
I think the cooties are a non-starter too (beyond the admonitions about ocular and vaginal inoculation), but there is no need to look for a better reason to have two than you don't have to take turns or share - you can both have one in! Best evah. Many toys are made of materials easily sterilized between uses.
The misdirection behind the Iraqi invasion was painfully obvious to lots of us before the war, and it had nothing to do with being Neville Chamberlains or afraid of bombs and unwilling to fight for anything.
It makes me want to ask Dan:
Ok, we bombed, we invaded, we blew $2T (so far) and we "liberated" the Iraqis from a sociopath and his sociopath sons. Is Iraq more stable now? How is Iraq different today from Syria? How much did it cost us in blood and treasure to accomplish that in Syria? How about in Lybia?
This was never a question about "doing the right thing" - it is about doing something pragmatic - making a difference where you can really make a difference and not engaging in pointless exercises. This was not about being pussies afraid to drop bombs (ok, yes, some of the opposition to the war is fairly described that way).
The outcome - besides mostly handing Iraq over to the Iranians at long last - is not yet really clear. Joe Biden will very likely prove correct ultimately when a "country" created by a British officer with a ruler and a map breaks apart into the three real organic polities which exist inside the triangle he drew.
http://www.thepleasurechest.com/lux-lx3-…
It has zero reviews on Pleasure Chest or Amazon or anywhere else I've looked. Although everyone's anatomy is different, these are pretty expensive toys to try out on a whim ($130 for the Lux) and I'm wondering what this is like if anyone out there has tried it. FYI I want direct prostate stimulation with a minimum of anal sphincter contact, as I definitely don't like butt plugs, getting rimmed, anal penetration even if the guy has a very skinny cock / finger. It looks like it's narrower than most cocks or fingers at the point that would contact the sphincter, as it vibrates one doesn't have to wiggle it like the Aneros, so... maybe a good fit as it were?
Anyone tried it or can recommend similar?
Besides, getting a second toy is not that expensive. It's not like there's a shortage out there.
But it is much more likely that he gets the UTI from unprotected anal sex than from a butt plug.
He must be right. Next thing you know, the LW will have a house full of toys of the most perverse sort, all because of that one harmless little butt plug.
I've been having butt sex with my wife for over 10 years, and I can still count one hand the number of times it's been messy at all, nevermind that even those times it was hardly a big deal.
I on the other hand, have to be extra careful, but that's because I have IBS.
You should get your rectum checked out.
After you moved your bowel successfully, there should be no stool left in your rectum, just minuscle amounts mixed into the mucous on your rectal epithelium.
If a finger you stick up your anus is covered in poop, that means a) you didn't clean your anus after moving your bowel; b) your stool seems to be unusually viscous/ sticky; c) the bowel movement was not complete. Case a is easily remedied, in case b or c you really should get a medical opinion.
The epithelium in the large intestine is covered with a thick film of mucus to protect the cells from damage and to help the digestive matter which slowly turns into faeces to move along. The further down the colon the faeces gets, the more water is absorbed from it and the more formed the faeces becomes. The faeces is covered by the mucus in a thin layer like with a cling film. Of course, there is some variation but it makes defaecation a lot less messy in healthy people than it would be otherwise.
In a tooth paste tube, there is no viscous film between paste and tube. Therefore, the paste adheres to the tube.
Any anal stimulation can trigger colonic peristalsis. Different people are differently susceptible. Depending how far up the colon the next faecal matter is, there is the risk that some gets moved down to the rectum during anal sex.
And despite the rectum being "clean" from faecal matter, bacteria are present in the mucus, and other bacteria adhere to the intestinal walls. So, there's still the risk of transfering bacteria.
"And how are you supposed to remember which butt plug belongs to which partner?"
They come in different colors. All my toys are either purple or green, while my partner's are black or red. Plus we have nightstands on both sides of the bed, so I keep my toys on my side, partner's toys are on the other. It's fairly simple.
Meanwhile, years ago I remember going at a guy who left a whole turtle head on the tip of my condom. I know this is all anecdotal, but maybe it's just messier for some?
"I mean, impeccable hygiene or no, some amount of fecal matter is inevitably floating around at any given moment"
"Probs not a great idea to put a poopy wiener in your vadge or mouth. I mean, some people get off on that and are willing to take the risk, and that's cool. But if you're not one of those people, have your dude clean his junk before he does anything else with it."
It doesn't sound to me like my experience is too abnormal. Newsflash: anal sex often involves poop.
And I think what Jezebel might call a 'poopy wiener' might really be any wiener that's been in an ass, rather than a shit-spackled nightmare.
The point of all this is that ass play doesn't have to be shit play, and most people are pretty good at keeping the two separate.
If you've just had a bowel movement, there shouldn't be a "poopy mess" in your rectum. A few speckles of faecal matter? Maybe.
Never put a finger or penis that's been in an anus into a vagina without cleaning it first- that's not because of faecal matter but because of bacteria.
Here's what I'm saying: 1) go take a dump, 2) wipe your ass, 3) jam your index finger up your ass (get it all the way in there), and 4) wipe your finger on a piece of toilet paper without leaving brown stinky smudges. If it's true that taking a shit is "all the cleaning you need", then this would be no problem. If you were to hypothetically do this experiment, would the result be A) there is no poop whatsoever on the toilet paper, B) there is a tiny, tiny amount of poop, but if you look close you can see it, C) ok, the amount of poop is small, but if you were to wipe your dick on the curtains, it would definitely leave a stain, or D) chocolate banana rolled in nuts. I am saying reality is C. You seem to be claiming that reality is A or B, but characterizing me as saying D, which kind of makes it difficult to communicate.
I say it is B. However, what you wipe on the toilet paper is not poop but the mucus lining your rectum which has been stained slightly brownish by faeces.
But what you had previously described sounded much more like D than anything else.
And yes, once you ejaculate into someone's pretty clean rectum, the ejaculate, together with the astroglide or vaseline you probably used will mix with this slightly brownish mucus. It still shouldn't be much of a mess, but a tissue will come handy.
Since this comment thread got lame (thanks Beef!), I personally have engaged in butt sex that involved no more prep than a shit and a spritz, and which resulted in no evidence of poop, either on my dick, or on a Kleenex after wiping my dick off (which I do after PIV, too, btw).
Twice.
Must be some kind of planetary alignment or something. Or could it be just that it's usually like that?
I'm fortunate in that no one has ever wanted to wipe their dick on anything but a kleenex or wet-wipe after sex with me. My partners have all been cool with whatever mess resulted from sex.
From discussions here with cockyballsup, I gather that men who expect to receive anal usually do an enema before the sex. I think heteros often weren't thinking about anal until inspiration struck, in the moment, so they are less likely to have prepared with an enema. And are more likely to either forge ahead, messiness be damned, or to substitute PIV for anal if they feel anal would be especially messy.
Beef has arrived at the decision that his/her point is that taking a shit isn't always all that's ever needed to avoid a mess for everyone every time. Which is hard to argue with. However, some of the earlier comments seemed to be saying that anyone claiming to have ever had butt sex that didn't end up looking like some kind of sheisse video was lying.
And no, this comment thread didn't get "lame" because of my line of questioning, it's providing more information and clarifying that certain absolute statements aren't quite as absolute as people have made them out to be. The actual column was pretty light on factual information and relied mostly on ick-factor, which I found disappointing. More discussion doesn't hurt. If you think it's lame, don't participate.
And I'm done. You're apparently not wearing your troll skin today, but I still feel like I'm feeding a troll. Go forth and be icked out by always-messy butt sex!
I think enemas are a good idea because a lot of people are probably not able to have a bowel movement just because they want to have anal sex in about an hour or so. Since a lot of peope with regular bowel movements seem to have them in the morning, and a lot of people have sex at night, there seems to be a bit of a timing challenge. And in that case, when the faeces isn't yet in the rectum but close enough, it could get really messy.
So with the enema that stuff a bit further up the colon is also taken care off, and people don't have to strain in vain on the toilet.
my experience(both first second and hand info) is that the odd 'accident' can happen if you're inexperienced(or with someone who doesn't know what they're doing), but that generally there is unlikely to be anything that can't be wiped up in about 30 seconds, and pristinely clean is pretty normal - even after serious fucking - so long as you use condoms and lube.
i'm quite interested to hear the views of any other NZer's on here - kiwibear?
I know this sounds crazy, but when you tell someone that there's something medically wrong with them if they have poop up their butt, they might get a little annoyed and want to tell you you're full of shit.
Reading comprehension fail.
No one said that there never was poop in your bum. We tried to explain that your example of shoving a finger up your ass *just after taking a shit* should not result in a mess because *just after taking a shit* the rectum should be EMPTY.
This in now way means that anal sex cannot ever be messy. But the likelihood that it is a poopy mess is very small in healthy adults *just after taking a shit*.
Of course, there are factors involved in anal sex that make it messier than shoving a finger up your ass: lube and spunk. But lube and spunk by themselves aren't poop, either. Even if they leak out a bum.