And let we forget, they endorsed George Bush over Al Gore. Here's the Seattle Times explaining why Bush was the superior candidate, "... But in the end, this was not a decision based on offices held or promises made, it was about the qualities Americans need and deserve in those who hold public trust. This endorsement is founded on two bedrock differences between Bush and Vice President Al Gore:
Integrity and civility
The thread that binds last year's early endorsement of Bill Bradley for president to today's endorsement of George W. Bush is ethical behavior, as a candidate and as an opponent...
Taxes and trade
While the economy under the Clinton-Gore administration has been spectacular,..."
I don't think Slog readers need to get their dander up too much here. The Times was never going to endorse McGinn, and if you look at the other candidates, it was probably between Harrell and Murray.
A bit strange, but not that strange. OK, the Seattle Times is a strange newspaper. They often rail against something, then endorse someone who pushes for that thing. But the Seattle Times, right now, is a suburban newspaper. Or, at the very least, a "Seattle and the suburbs" newspaper. They know it, and want to keep it that way. They are also a paper that is very much aware of their bottom line. While the occasional editorial writer may say this or that, if push comes to shove, they support their bottom line. This is different, than say, a paper owned by some rich guy who wants to throw his money at an ideology.
Anyway, back to the endorsement. Murray has run as a regional mayor, so it makes sense for the Seattle Times to endorse him. Their hope is that he will make things better not only for the city, but the suburbs as well. Most of the candidates want the same thing, but have different priorities. My guess is that if Murray becomes mayor, he runs for Governor in a few years and to do that, he will need the support of a few suburban folks along the way.
@10 -- A week ago, I would have said that Steinbrueck was a possibility. But then the Times runs an editorial saying we need to do more about the high cost of rent in this city. If that is your attitude, then Steinbrueck isn't your guy.
In any event, it shows how weird the Seattle Times is. The editorial was right on the money, but completely the opposite of many of the articles they have run in the last couple years complaining about ugly buildings, apodments, lack of parking, etc. My guess that the headline writer wants to stir up anger (Less Parking! More Congestion! Neighbors Angry about Ugly Buildings!) while the editorial board knows what is really important (sky high rents).
First the Times gives front page coverage to TransFest and the trans community, which the Stranger totally snubbed. Now they endorse Murray, who the Stranger continually mocks.
Better watch out, it seems like the Times is gunning for your core readership, and you are making it really, really easy for them.
I think @7 and @13 speak for a lot of us--To get that endorsement, The Times had to find a deep, hidden streak of pure evil in a candidate I thought was acceptable.
Honestly, I like the idea of Seattle having a gay mayor. Is that such a crime? Murray seems like an ok guy and it's not like any of the others are perfect.
I don't think it's a strange argument. McGinn has behaved somewhat like GW Bush: you're either with us or you're against us. Thanks to our bodies of water, Seattle is more insular than other cities, but the fact remains, we are part of a regional ecosystem. What we do affects our neighbors, and vice versa. We can't expect to move forward as a region without leadership that respects that basic fact. McGinn has been great a proposing x, y, or z. But leadership is about bringing people along, not throwing out ideas. Murray has a track record of working ideas along, building support, and then pushing hard for passage with a strong constituency--and then leveraging that success to the next one.
The Times is often wrong, but sometimes they are right. They endorsed Obama, too, you know.
McGinn hasn't done anything as mayor!! I don't get how people can be so passionate about a candidate whose record includes losing every political battle he frequently picks. I'll be supporting Ed.
The ST has made bad endorsements, and they've made good endorsements. This is one of their better ones. The Seattle Times joins an array of groups/people endorsing Murray, including the Washington Conservation Voters, Ron Sims, Seattle Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce, City Attorney Pete Holmes, Equal Rights Washington, a variety of labor unions (plumbers/operating engineers/sheet metal workers/teamsters/electrical workers), King County Democrats, Former Mayor Royer, Former Gov. Gregoire, and many more. McGinn simply isn't a consensus builder. I'm voting for Murray.
So Eddie Murray - sorry, Ed Murray - is the establishment candidate, based on his endorsements. And Mike McGinn is the one the establishment and conservatives have always hated. Gotcha. Like it's been said, this clarifies everything.
@27 I'm nauseous reading your post, it's so crammed with campaign propaganda sugar. You obviously work for the Murray campaign. Seattle has done well under McGinn during difficult times, and all Eddie Murray is known for is fighting for gay marriage. I gave up on his campaign as soon as it became obvious that he was running with a vanity mirror in one hand and a comb in the other.
@32 I'm an unabashed and avid supporter of Murray, but I don't work for the campaign, for what it is worth. I will admit to being part of the establishment--the part of the establishment that founded the campaign for marriage.
I'm inclined to endorse Murray, he managed to frustrate Rodney Tom and the Republican's plan to shut down state government and blame Inslee, and has a long list of accomplishments that have little to do with the struggle for gay liberation/equality. And exactly what the fuck is wrong with participating, in a very important way, in the quest for equality?
Besides, McGinn totally blew it on police accountability and has little inclination to cross big money developers or ban-the-automobile Critical Mass assholes. Seattle should give Murray a chance to give the town back to the people who keep it alive.
My support for McGinn goes beyond his advocacy of the issues I care most about, or his willingness to stand up for something even if it's not politically expedient (a very rare trait in most public officials). It's about defending myself, too, and about having the mayor of my city stand up for those who haven't often had a voice in city hall.
I see the patchwork quilt of cyclists and pedestrians, transit advocates, immigrants and refugees, families with young kids, and oodles of others, and that's how I know I'm in the right camp for me. More than any policy or position or the sincerity and dedication of Mayor McGinn, it's the company I've kept in the last few months that cements my support.
A Seattle Times endorsement for as long as I can remember means one of two things: You're politically easy to support, or you're the wrong type of candidate. Murray's not the worst candidate that could be, but I'm unimpressed. The arguments the Seattle Times make happen to be among the least persuasive arguments I've heard for him, to boot.
@35, Murray managed to frustrate Tom? Wow, we have very different takeaways from how the debacle in the legislature played out this year. I think by most accounts Tom frustrated Murray this year far far more.
Everything is driven by an ideology of some sort. I don't like McGinn but that's about the most farcically stupid thing you can say to insult a politician.
I think, as Ross nicely points out @11, we can take the Times's endorsement somewhat at face value. The Times wants a regional mayor and Ed Murray has positioned himself as a prospective regional mayor. He'd make a great candidate if all the voters in the Puget Sound region got to pick a mayor of Seattle.
To me, though, even "regional mayor" is a euphemism for the Ed Murray candidacy. I simply can't forget his continued efforts through the years to sabotage Sound Transit and (short of that) siphon Sound Transit spending away from Seattle. Whatever Mike McGinn's alleged flaws, at least he's positioned himself as the pro-Seattle mayor. Ed Murray has positioned himself as the anti-Seattle mayoral candidate.
I also appreciate Storbaker's pointing @6 to the Times's endorsement of G.W. Bush in 2000. There's one word that stands out in that endorsement, "civility." Incivility is what members of the political class accuse their foes of when those folks aren't getting their way on the issues and really don't want to draw attention to the issues. It's telling now that so much of the criticism of Mike McGinn centers around style and an alleged inability to play well with others.
For anyone who's actually interacted with Mike McGinn, it's hard not to come away with an impression of a man who is charming, engaging, and diplomatic. Let's not confuse mensch, though, with pushover or lightweight. Mike McGinn's real civility problem is that he stands for things like in-city density and transit that the Times editorial board and its fellow exurbanists can't quite stomach.
It's a small percentage of the city that supports McGinn (as polls have shown) but those who do, are fucking obsessed. You see it in the comments here and on other sites and social media. They really think this guy is almost faultless and anyone who challenges him is worthy of contempt. It kind of makes sense, but McGinn himself seems to have that attitude. It's not a winning strategy, in my opinion.
I really like Ed Murray and my gut reaction would be to support him for whatever job he runs for, but McGinn had done a great job as mayor. He has shown that he can be pragmatic, but I think in a way that hasn't sold out his ideals.
Look, what it all boils down to is this: are you going to vote in the Primary next week? And are you going to get your friends to vote?
Integrity and civility
The thread that binds last year's early endorsement of Bill Bradley for president to today's endorsement of George W. Bush is ethical behavior, as a candidate and as an opponent...
Taxes and trade
While the economy under the Clinton-Gore administration has been spectacular,..."
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.c…
Anyway, back to the endorsement. Murray has run as a regional mayor, so it makes sense for the Seattle Times to endorse him. Their hope is that he will make things better not only for the city, but the suburbs as well. Most of the candidates want the same thing, but have different priorities. My guess is that if Murray becomes mayor, he runs for Governor in a few years and to do that, he will need the support of a few suburban folks along the way.
In any event, it shows how weird the Seattle Times is. The editorial was right on the money, but completely the opposite of many of the articles they have run in the last couple years complaining about ugly buildings, apodments, lack of parking, etc. My guess that the headline writer wants to stir up anger (Less Parking! More Congestion! Neighbors Angry about Ugly Buildings!) while the editorial board knows what is really important (sky high rents).
The People are done being a City.
They don't want to be a City.
They have had it up to here with a City.
Better watch out, it seems like the Times is gunning for your core readership, and you are making it really, really easy for them.
http://seattletimes.com/html/editorials/…
...the ed page, though? Hmmmmnope.
The Times is often wrong, but sometimes they are right. They endorsed Obama, too, you know.
Fair and Balanced.
@27 I'm nauseous reading your post, it's so crammed with campaign propaganda sugar. You obviously work for the Murray campaign. Seattle has done well under McGinn during difficult times, and all Eddie Murray is known for is fighting for gay marriage. I gave up on his campaign as soon as it became obvious that he was running with a vanity mirror in one hand and a comb in the other.
Besides, McGinn totally blew it on police accountability and has little inclination to cross big money developers or ban-the-automobile Critical Mass assholes. Seattle should give Murray a chance to give the town back to the people who keep it alive.
I see the patchwork quilt of cyclists and pedestrians, transit advocates, immigrants and refugees, families with young kids, and oodles of others, and that's how I know I'm in the right camp for me. More than any policy or position or the sincerity and dedication of Mayor McGinn, it's the company I've kept in the last few months that cements my support.
A Seattle Times endorsement for as long as I can remember means one of two things: You're politically easy to support, or you're the wrong type of candidate. Murray's not the worst candidate that could be, but I'm unimpressed. The arguments the Seattle Times make happen to be among the least persuasive arguments I've heard for him, to boot.
To me, though, even "regional mayor" is a euphemism for the Ed Murray candidacy. I simply can't forget his continued efforts through the years to sabotage Sound Transit and (short of that) siphon Sound Transit spending away from Seattle. Whatever Mike McGinn's alleged flaws, at least he's positioned himself as the pro-Seattle mayor. Ed Murray has positioned himself as the anti-Seattle mayoral candidate.
For anyone who's actually interacted with Mike McGinn, it's hard not to come away with an impression of a man who is charming, engaging, and diplomatic. Let's not confuse mensch, though, with pushover or lightweight. Mike McGinn's real civility problem is that he stands for things like in-city density and transit that the Times editorial board and its fellow exurbanists can't quite stomach.
10 points from Slytherin.