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Seconded. F-you, @PastorMark. Love, Kelly O
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Marry John the Baptist
Kill Peter
Really? You find this astonishing? I find it typical.
To be honest, I really wouldn't want to fuck any of them. But rules is rules.
Megan asked a great question Mars Hill people won't answer though: Why choose a church suspected of spiritual abuse, with a narcissistic misogynistic egomaniac leader? Is it because there are more people who "look like you" (age, socioeconomic status, skin tone, clothes, subcultural identifiers)? Is it the music? Is it unhip to go to an affirming, open church with a diversity of ages, skin tones, socioeconomic statuses?
::Shrug:: I think they could do it on their own, but they don't.
One of them is an ex of mine ( I did like me bouncer back in the day) and when he starts spouting homophobic or sexist shit, I take him to the woodshed. Often he'll listen.
Slog/The Stranger has indicated in the past that at least one of Mars Hill's recruitment tactics is to seek out lonely-looking newcomers at bars and coffee shops. It's also pretty clear, I think, that the church pretty much throws a bunch of new best friends at new members.
They find socially isolated people, give them a ton of new friends, and make all of those friendships contingent on towing the line, never speaking up, and certainly *never* leaving the church. Say anything against the church leadership, and you're blackballed permanently.
So, in other words, it's just like any other cult, sans suicide pact.
Recently Born-Again Christian Finally Has Social Life (The Onion)
"GASTONIA, SC–Eight months ago, Larry Dunne was alone. He didn't have a friend in the world. But all that changed with his baptism at the New Hearts Fundamentalist Church. Ever since becoming a born-again Christian, Dunne has a friend through Jesus. "Let's see, there's Richard and Janet and Craig," said Dunne, a data technician at Quill Paper Distribution. "Oh, and Brent, too. He stands next to me in the choir. Now that I'm saved, I've got a whole bunch of friends."
At least with one MH couple, once he got married it was the wife's decision that they'd be churchgoers, and knowing her it was going to be fundie. MH being cool for aging hipsters Probably keeps him. Neither of them is particularly critical in thinking about theology, so there they are.
Good catch rob!
I am not up on my spelling of hateful darkgae religious figures.
I hate my phone
Me: @PastorMark do you really think you're making your religion seem inviting & reality-based? Should it be inviting & reality based? #AskPM
Him: I'm a preacher not a salesman. I can always grow as a messenger, but can never change the message.
It was a throwaway question - he ignored all the others that I asked.
Not saying that there's nothing to complain about with respect to Mars Hill, wherever that is, or this pastor, whoever he is, but his snark isn't it.
In related news, who the #@$% is Mark Driscoll and what the #@$% is Mars Hill? Is it that church that's whining that someone else closed a perfectly above-board multi-year deal to buy the land that they wanted to buy?
Inquiring minds want to know.
And I must add to the pile of appreciation flowing toward Megan*. Well done.
*Yes, appreciation flows in pile form. Don't bother looking it up, it's true.
Thanks for being out there and in the face of this dickhead, Mark What's His Name.
And...are you single and into men?