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Dan, I didn't know I was bi until end of senior year of high school. I was bullied for being weird and different and nerdy and fat. Bi happened in college, followed by activism, new friends (some also nerdy and fat, some shockingly cool & gorgeous).

Although I didn't know what my deal was, way back when, if I had seen these clips, telling me high school wasn't forever, I'd have benefited from it. Greatly.

I may sometimes come down on you, Dan, for one thing or another, but that's because ultimately, you put yourself out there as a spokesgay. Comes w/ a level of visibility and responsibility. But also you have to balance that w/ being entertaining enough to keep folks coming back for more. You usually handle this tightrope w/ aplomb.

When you use your powers for good, Dan, you warm my heart, and many others. Your snark is only a facet of you.

OK, there you go, a completely complimentary, non picking on you comment. 'cause frankly you deserve it.

Yes, people - do more. Walk your talk.
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Also, telling a desperate kid it gets better someday may be the slender thread they need to hang on. It's a start.
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Stonewall. Google. News.
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This project has to be making a huge difference to kids already, kids who perhaps feeling completely isolated right now. As Venomlash noted on one of the other threads, other groups who are/have been persecuted at least have their communities and families to fall back on. Gay children rarely have gay parents, or gay siblings, or communities from which to draw strength, so this really must be a lifeline for them. From my point of view, as a straight parent who has always been really open with my kids, it prompted me to add sexual orientation to my usual "sex, drugs, and rock and roll you can tell me anything" chats. Amidst eye-rolling, at least now it's out there, and it hadn't even occurred to me, I just assumed they knew they could tell me anything, but the "Email" post made me realize that no one should make that assumption.

PS Dan's dad made a comment (@84) over at this week's Savage Love column...very sweet!
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I, for one, am disappointed in Dan for not choosing to fix the problem of anti-gay bullying everywhere, all at once. I also demand to know what he is doing laying about in bed instead of solving cancer, world hunger, and the Seahawks' offense.
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Thank you, Dan. Some of the criticism of this project that I've seen is just ridiculous. No, it doesn't solve every problem everywhere and not all problems end the moment we graduate high school. But it's a little thing called hope, something everybody desperately needs. Begrudging kids hope is just stupid.
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I cannot believe that anyone could be critical of the IGBP.
This immediately resonated with me as someone who was bullied mercilessly in high school. Called all the usual nasty names, but tripped in hallways and on staircases, shoved into lockers, had my notebooks grabbed out of my hands and destroyed, punched, kicked, etc, etc. Many times I feared for my safety, and contemplated suicide often because at least I could die by my own terms as opposed to being beaten to death.
But as bad as it would get I would make a deal with myself, don't kill yourself today, give it a week and if things don't get better you have permission to do it then. My mantra was then, "it must get better, this isn't all there is to life, it must get better". Miraculously, I would manage to find hope in something, a reason to live despite being told every day by bullies to kill myself. Hope is what I needed and Hope is what kept me alive and the only reason I survived high school. School Administrators failed to protect me, my parents failed to protect me, I didn't know where to turn and thought I had no options, but I had Hope.
This project is about Hope plain and simple. Anyone who cannot see that needs to open their eyes, and anyone who would want to take away from that should be ashamed. Yes, it is one small spoke of a very large wheel of actions that need to be taken, but it's a start.
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Well said Dan.
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Haters Gonna Hate
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Best video yet :)
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Fantastic, that young man and his story. What a twist at the end! Thanks for highlighting that vid.

Hope you are up and about again soon, kitten.
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Straight ally, with a gay cousin who has been partnered and parenting 2 adoptive sons longer than I dated, was married to and have been divorced from my now ex-husband. Fucking right on for the It Gets Better Project. Kudos to you and all who help.

Hoping for better and more equal days to come, for all!
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Honestly, I think more good will come from empowering these kids to help themselves than focusing on punishing away bullying and homophobia and casting them as helpless victims. Yes, homophobia needs to be addressed, but that is going to take time, and these kids need help now. They need to know they are stronger than the crap they are taking, and that there is a world where they will be accepted and loved for who they are.

And, to the extent they can weather the homophobic storm with grace and strength, they are fighting homophobia by their very example. And in my humble opinion, the war on homophobia is being won by exposing the bigots to real human examples.
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Jesus, isn't someday better than never? Isn't giving kids hope that "it gets better" better than letting them continue to feel that it never will?

When your kid is sick and asks "when am I going to feel better?", you tell them soon. When you take a road trip and your kid asks "when are we going to get there?", you tell them soon. When an LGBT teenager who is being bullied and victimized on a regular daily basis wants to know "when does it get better?", telling them soon may be that one little tiny ray of hope they need to hang in there another day or two. It may be all of the encouragement they need to go to Dan's channel and hear real stories from gay adults who have lived through the same hell they are going through and that it gets better soon. And hopefully that will be enough to get them to put down the gun, remove the noose from around their necks or walk off the bridge. Soon is soooo much better than the alternative.

Oh and Dan, you'll feel better soon, I promise!
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Jesus. Bullying won't end. Even protection and punishment can only go so far.

The way to stop suicide is to show the meadow at the end of the long hard road through hell. Even the most nihilistic post-apocalyptic road movies have that glimmer of hope through some abstract object that keeps people going.

Giving kids hope and eliminating the sense of alienation is key.

Which reminds me: much thanks to the gays who ran porn sites in the early/mid '90s. Through passwords like Stonewall, and symbols like the pink triangle (almost more frequently used than the rainbow back then), I was led to powerful starts about gay history that helped me identify through adolescence, and connection to the community. Thank you gay perverts of yesteryear!
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I think you're doing an awesome thing, but why can't you get the tech savvy youth to start a facebook page, website, and Twitter feed? You would reach literally 10x as many people with one days work by a techy youth.
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@16 There is a Facebook page. I don't know about the rest.

I first heard about the "backlash" earlier today and thought it was absolutely ridiculous. Your response was very well put.

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Dan, this is a little on a tangent, but hear me out.

I'm a sexual abuse survivor, I was raped repeatedly from the ages of three to ten. High school was tough but at least it was all girl. College was tougher as the sexual atmosphere (I was often one girl in all-boy engineering classes) was hard to deal with. I contemplated suicide fearing that I'd never be 'over it' or strong enough to cope. I daren't look for help as by that point I had two small children and feared that I'd be declared an unfit mother. This wasn't an unfounded fear as the country I was living in at the time was going through a slightly hysterical period and kids were being removed in my circumstances.

However, I found an Usenet newsgroup (this dates me) dedicated to sexual abuse survivors that allowed me to post anonymously and there I 'met' people who gave me hope. They said the same things the people in your videos are saying: we understand, we love you, you matter, you can do this and, crucially, it gets better. It was all I had but it gave me enough to get through the dark times.

That was 20 years ago. My kids are happy well-adjusted adults. And I am a happy, married, sexually-active, engineering professional. And if it weren't for the folks on alt.sexual.abuse.recovery I wouldn't have made it.

In particular, Lupus, it's unlikely you'll ever see this, and I never knew your real name, but thank-you. Two decades later I still think of you.

If it's all there is, then sometimes hope can be enough.
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Dan, I mostly fucking hate you (for conversations and perspectives I've heard you spake through acclimated third parties -ha!!! third parties are the best parties!-) but it's been hard for me not to cry my straight-as(s)-fuck ass at any of these IGBP videos. SO SO SO SO tremendously heartening. and so moving. thank you so much. it doesnt speak to my personal whiny/whitey/straighty stupid issues (dumb!), but it speaks to fundamental "things" and our need to hug and hold hands with one another and cuddle our warms together. it means the most to me that it is aimed at mal/dis-affected youth. our kids are our pulse, they pump our blood while our elders breathe the blood as mind in order to formulate the wisdoms of our people. (crazy moment) without either, we are dead. close-mindedness (known as people who dont strive to communicate with flesh/breathing strangers in close proximities around them) is cholesterol, it clogs the arteries and close-mindedness always (from pre-school to the retirement home) belong to older, scared/nervous ones, mind matters.

anyways, im a bat, but thanks SO MUCH. thanks for putting a warm and personal fingerprint to this, so many uncalloused warriors with messages of triumph. it means a lot to a lot of people for a lot of different reasons. i love my gay friends and i have always held them closer as brave warriors who had to fight youth (lone) battles a lot more intense then my own. you are war-painting a new calvary and i cant wait for them, my friends, to plant that final flag of universally excepted respect, tectonic and cerebral, after winning so many smaller battles.

it is so close, right there and you are making it happen you fucking asshole. ;P

crazy dude,
love comma
matt fu
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@13 FTW

The strength to live life comes from within.
The tragic decision to give up on life comes from the same place.

It is easy to focus hate on an outside group and blame them but that totally misses the real issue and gives the outside group power over you they otherwise would never have.

Giving kids, ALL kids, hope is a good thing.

Exploiting the tragedy of teen suicide to further Dan's anti-religion hate campaign is disgusting in the extreme.
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Long-time reader, never before commented. Dan, in the week before you started this, I was feeling the same despair that you and a lot of your readers and a lot of people in general were feeling about the most recent suicides. Even before you announced the project, the gears in my head were turning thinking about ways I could get involved to help. As a bullying survivor (1st through 12th grade continuously), who had to move to a new town and live on my own at age 17, just to finish high school, I have some idea what these kids go through. Just having a few teachers who probably didn't even realize the degree of pain I was in, but who still reached out to me the best they could, was enough. It didn't make everything perfect but it made me less alone, less invisible. No internet in those days unfortunately but we have it now and it is a way to reach kids we otherwise wouldn't. Every message of hope (and humor) is helpful and the way the other media outlets have picked up on it, it's getting everywhere. Not only is it helping kids with the messages, but I also believe it's helping people who felt like they didn't know how to help, have a starting point to get further involved; I know it's been that for me. I haven't posted my video yet, I can't stop crying everytime I start. But I will, and I will do more, I promise. IGB is working.
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Yes to this response, and Yes to this project.
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Like missjules, I am a long-time reader, though I have never before commented. I want to echo what many folks here are say: IGBP is one of the best efforts I have ever seen to help queer youth. I am currently putting together a video to contribute and I am expecting to dedicate time to the Trevor project in the next few months, so the effort also produces greater involvement by people like me, who always thought about doing something but never did.

I also have to admit that I am angry to hear about 'adult privilege.' A part of the project is to show queer kids what the future can look like, that that future exists, in all its diversity. If there are lots of adults, it is because we can say 'Look, here is this life I made, despite adversity. It is possible.' As a survivor a lots of homophobic bullying in the school system, what I turned into as an adult is not 'privilege' but the product of hard work, of striving for something more after have been given so little. I resent the notion that the struggles I and many adults face simply translates into 'privilege.' It is, instead, a tribute to persistence and creativity, both of which make a meaningful life, in my opinion.

Thanks so much, Dan, for the work you have done!
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This is perfect. People bitching about this project and how it's imperfect can feel free to analyze its faults to the 10th degree, and then come up with their own ideas to pick up the slack.
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I too have seen and heard some of the criticism of this project, and the biggest argument seems to be that it shouldn't be aimed at just the LGBT kids, but at all kids who get bullied.

I say B.S. to that. We have seen this happen over and over. Anti-bullying laws and projects that have been started to protect queer kids, whose suicide rate is 6 times that of their hetero peers, have been co-opted and then de-gayed, leaving the queer kids back out in the cold and alone again.

If someone wants to start or support a general anti-bullying project, fine. Go do it. But leave this alone.
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These videos may give someone the few minutes they need to put things in perspective. No, the bullying won't stop instantly. But if you can stop for just a moment or two and see someone else who's going through or has gone through the same thing as you it can make a world of difference.

The comments on any news story or message board prove that bullying doesn't end. IGBP gives people hope and that's more than they had before. Bravo, Dan for starting this and everyone who's contributed to the project.
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I think these videos are great for anyone who has been bullied, even if they are adults and far past high school. I faced workplace harassment and bullying so bad that I thought about taking my life many times, because it got so bad. I still don't have many resources or places to go for help, but I've been in therapy for two years. Watching these videos makes me realize that there are people who have faced down uglier bullies than mine at a much younger age and lived to tell the tale. It does give a glimmer of hope for me, so I can imagine that for high school students it would also be helpful.
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Dan, here's my favorite song.
It's written for all adolescents, but I think it stands on the same plot as IGBP.

composed and sang by Angela Aki
"Letter, dear 15-year-old you"

Dear you, Who's reading this letter
Where are you and what are you doing now?
For me who's 15 years old

There are seeds of worries I can't tell anyone
If it's a letter addressed to my future self,
Surely I can confide truly to myself

Now, it seems that I'm about to be defeated and cry
For someone who's seemingly about to disappear
Whose words should I believe in?

This one-and-only heart has been broken so many times
In the midst of this pain, I live the Present
I live the present

Dear you, Thank you
I have something to tell the 15 year old you
If you coutinue asking what and where you should be going

You'll be able to see the answer
The rough seas of youth may be tough But row your boat of dreams on
Towards the shores of tomorrow
Now, please don't be defeated and please don'tshed tear
During these times when you're seemingly about to disappear
Just believe in your own voice
For me as an adult, there ara sleepless nights when I'm hurt
But I'm living the bittersweet present

There's meaning to everything in life
So build your dreames without fear

Keep on bilieving

Seems like I'm about to be defeated and cry
For someone who's seemingly about to disappear
Whose words should I believe in?
Please don't be defeated and please don't shed a tear
During these times when you're seemingly about to disappear
Just believe in your own voice
There's no running away from sorrow

So show your smile, and go on living the present
Go on living the present

Dear you, Who's reading this letter
I wish you happiness

"

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Oops I forgot! Here's the link of this song on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWJICPPn…
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I think my favourite crazy criticism is the one where IGB is accused of "raising hopes" for kids because sometimes things don't get better and you have a shitty adult life and we'll have scarred these kids forever because we made them a "promise" that couldn't be kept.

Oh man, the issues people bring sometimes.
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I love the idea of the project Dan, really I do, but here's my problem.

Bullying in middle and high school is a problem in all forms, kids get teased for all sorts of reasons and we should call for an end to bullying full stop. And yet I find it difficult to listen to you - a man who makes fun of fat people and tran folks and bi folks, perhaps one might call you a bully, giving advice on ending bullying.

Practice what you preach and stop bullying folks yourself.
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Please, please, please. Someone buy the domain name and compile all this on a single website. This stuff needs to be easy to find, easy to access (youtube is blocked for many school districts, for instance), and ARCHIVED.

What do we need to do to start collecting money so this can happen? This needs to happen.
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I think it's GREAT that people have come forward to make these videos so that they might give a total stranger just that little bit of hope they need to hang on. They may not change the world, but my God, if they help even one poor tormented kid out there it's something.
I've never been on this blog before and i'm not gay. I'm just a hetero woman who has long supported the gay community and whose heart breaks for how gays are treated.
When I read the story about Tyler Clementi last week on yahoo, I was shocked and saddened by the despicable anti-gay comments left below the story by other readers. Living in the Northeast with liberal friends, I had no idea there was still so much hate out there. I truly feel in recent years our country has gone backwards in acceptance of gays and lesbians.
All I can say is, I sincerely hope it will not always be so.
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Dan,

I applaud your efforts. It doesn't solve all the problems faced by gay teens, but it's something that can be accessed anywhere. The real need is for ALL of the LGBT community to (1) stop whining amongst themselves and (2) get more involved and DEMAND that politicians get a back bone and stop giving a pass to religious bigotry - because that's what it is. Special rights for Christianists. It is far past time that religious bigots be confronted head on and called out for their sick and vicious handiwork.
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Holy cow, I'm the guy with the green glasses. You linked to my It Gets Better video in this post. Dan, let me just say you are the best imaginary online personality friend a gay boy could ever ask for. Listening to you every Tuesday is a treat.
And seriously, screw those hairy scrotums who criticize you and your efforts. How are they helping to save lives by criticizing you? I'll tell you. They ain't doing crap.
The only thing I recommend you do with It Gets Better is that people need to share their stories and then they need to get more active. Making videos is great, but tell people to PLEASE contact their local school districts and ASK what programs they have in place to prevent and combat bullying. Ask them to donate or volunteer for the Trevor Project. We can take this to a whole new level.
Much love!
Henry
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Dear Dan,

You say what needs to be said so well-- so piercingly perfect on your marked targets!!! Keep it up my friend!!!!

Thanks for all you do. The Gay Rights Movement needs 100-million more like you.

I love you!!
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I haven't been able to watch all the videos, yet. Are there videos from straight people as well telling the LGBTQ community that it's OK and things get better? I think that would be pretty powerful as well! Just a thought...

Keep up the great work!

The world needs more people like you!

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Dan, honey, you just keep on keeping on. This is one of the BEST concepts I've ever seen for helping gay youth. No, it won't make the universe rotate backwards, but it WILL let these kids know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. That school, as endless as it seems (I remember jr high and high school as taking about two decades to get through), and the unstructured, ignorant and absolutely moronic way in which it is administrated is NOT the way real life is.
Go to school and get what you can out of it--give them want they want to get that piece of paper. Then rest assured that you have the rest of your life to be anyone you want. In the meantime, you guys have cell-phones...USE THEM! Assault is a CRIME. Dial 911! Get a REAL cop there and PRESS CHARGES. Just because you're a kid doesn't mean you cannot access the REAL WORLD's LEGAL SYSTEM. Of course, 911 is limited to physical assault. Don't worry whether you can prove it or not. That's not your job. As for verbal assault? F*ck 'em!

Words are irritating, but please please please realize that it simply doesn't matter what someone who doesn't like you thinks or says about you. If someone puts their hands on you--pushes you into a locker, knocks you down in the hall---That is a CRIME! Call a COP!
You'll get a lot of flack from the administration. You'll even get a lot of flack from the cops. They all will do their best to victimize you, the victim. Don't let them psyche you out. If they threaten to arrest you for frivolous (sorry, sic) 911 calls, LET THEM! Because then there will be a judge involved. And, trust me, the administration doesn't want that.
You have a lot more power than you think you do. Use it and NEVER accept that someone abusing you is your fault. It never never never is. Never.
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As a parent - I thank you with all my heart.
We have open discussions in our home about how to treat school mates who may be different. Different in any way. Instead of rediculing or making fun of them, we want our son to know that it is very important in life to be different. To be different is a celebration of creativity. Without those who possess this, our world would be black and white and not filled with color.
In a public school environment they are allowed to be creative and to express themselves freely. Please know that it makes a BIG difference when a parent is tolerant. Shame on those who are not and who choose to teach their children this awful and very distructive behavior.
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You know - for those of you who are doing nothing but being critical and sh!tting on a wonderful program and a positive influence - what the hell have you done lately, to make the world better?? Have you gotten off your fat butts to make life better for GLBT kids?? I seriously doubt it, because if you were out being super spectacular, like you criticize this project and Dan for not being, you wouldn't have time to be on here bitching about what more he should be doing.

Take a good look at yourselves - because attitudes like yours are just as big of a part of the problem as the right-wing Christian nut jobs who hate gay people. Stop being bitter and try to make your little corner of the world a better place, or at least stay out of the way of the people who are doing it.

Dan - thank you...from a kid who was closeted and lonely, who put the barrel of a gun in his mouth on more than one occasion...I wish someone had been able to give me such a simple, powerful message during that time. I turned out ok - and I survived - but it could have been better. - John
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You know - for those of you who are doing nothing but being critical and sh!tting on a wonderful program and a positive influence - what the hell have you done lately, to make the world better?? Have you gotten off your fat butts to make life better for GLBT kids?? I seriously doubt it, because if you were out being super spectacular, like you criticize this project and Dan for not being, you wouldn't have time to be on here bitching about what more he should be doing.

Take a good look at yourselves - because attitudes like yours are just as big of a part of the problem as the right-wing Christian nut jobs who hate gay people. Stop being bitter and try to make your little corner of the world a better place, or at least stay out of the way of the people who are doing it.

Dan - thank you...from a kid who was closeted and lonely, who put the barrel of a gun in his mouth on more than one occasion...I wish someone had been able to give me such a simple, powerful message during that time. I turned out ok - and I survived - but it could have been better. - John
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Okay, let's assume--just for the sake of argument, that IGBP only speaks to:

"rich kids for whom the only violent part of their life is high school. [And that] [i]t’s a video for classist, privileged gay folks who think that telling their stories is the best way to help others..."

If that's the case, then by condemning the Project are the critics suggesting that "those types" of GLBTQI kids are not worth reaching out to? Or does the critic rather argue that they're not worth saving? How twisted does your agenda have to be to make it ethically permissible to advance an argument that it's not all to the good to reach out to the members of our tribe who are yet in exile? So what if our messages of hope cannot reach all the missing tribesmen? The point isn't to reach all the Queer kids -- it's to reach the one kid who needs it. That someone else may need something different, is not an argument against IGBP. It's an argument for the critic to stop critiquing and step up with an idea to meet the unmet need.
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Okay, let's assume--just for the sake of argument, that IGBP only speaks to:

"rich kids for whom the only violent part of their life is high school. [And that] [i]t’s a video for classist, privileged gay folks who think that telling their stories is the best way to help others..."

If that's the case, then by condemning the Project are the critics suggesting that "those types" of GLBTQI kids are not worth reaching out to? Or does the critic rather argue that they're not worth saving? How twisted does your agenda have to be to make it ethically permissible to advance an argument that it's not all to the good to reach out to the members of our tribe who are yet in exile? So what if our messages of hope cannot reach all the missing tribesmen? The point isn't to reach all the Queer kids -- it's to reach the one kid who needs it. That someone else may need something different is not an argument against IGBP. It's an argument for the critic to stop critiquing and step up with an idea to meet the unmet need.
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Thanks for this projext Dan.

I hope it means you'll also stop all your hating on trans people too.
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As a 12 year-old lesbian in the mid-1970s, I longed for any adult to affirm my conviction that if I could get to adulthood I'd have more power and options. Is systemic change necessary? Absolutely, and I work on that in addition to anything I might post on the internet.

While I understand the criticism that we need to let the kids speak, I have two responses: First, I AM that kid, fortunate and privileged enough to be alive and able to speak about my experiences. Second, some of the kids are speaking by killing themselves. I don't see how calling out greetings and encouragement from the other shore disempowers or silences them.
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Not all of the emails offering critiques are inherently bitchy, Mr. Savage!
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Not all of the emails offering critiques are inherently bitchy, Mr. Savage! It's clear that you're part of an amazing project, and many of us have great respect for what you do.
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Ya know, name calling, assuming that just because someone critisized Dans project they haev never done anything to help gays or gay kids is prety arrogant and selfserving!

I have, over the years been there for kids who were dealing with feeling like outcats and hating life and wondering about their sexuality. I have spent over 10 years on chat and through email, and now by facebook dealing with a couple of these kids. They are all still alive and some have gon on to be happily gay, some happily straight, some still not finding who they are yet.

I am one of those who critisized the projet, but not as much for giving false hope, but for spreading unrealistic wish fullfilment. e can not help kids by lieing to them. We can not tell them "things get better" and pretend that means they will have equal righst or be full citizens or that the bullies will "pay" in the end cause God or Karma will get them! That is just a lie and not right to tell them. Now, if we say the hell you are dealing with in school (Grade, Jr, High or even College) will get better once you are out of school, YES! You can say that and be honest. You can tell them that while even if the church and state and even their family rejects them, there are thousands of peopel who will NOT reject or hate them! You can say that, like me, they may have wanted to die many times, tried many times and thought they would never be happy. BUT, like me, they CAN find someone who they love and who loves them and have a life with so many friends and so much love they can't belive it! 26 years together and it feels like no time at all... The eternity that was the hell of school and my life before I finaly found my husband is NOTHING comapred to what I have now and have had for 26 years, way longer than all my school years! Tell them the truth, kids are not stupid and it does not help a suicidal or depressed kid to hear LIES about being able to someday be legaly married etc...tell them love is out there and if they hold on and make it through these bad times, it CAN get better (not will but can)!
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IT GETS BETTER is a fantastic project. It's motivating people everywhere to be kinder and more thoughtful and to do something to improve their communities. That's a profound effect to have on the world. Dan, you've inspired us to create IT GETS BETTER t-shirts to raise money for THE TREVOR PROJECT. Check them out. www.ItGetsBetter.biz
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IT GETS BETTER is a fantastic project. It's motivating people everywhere to be kinder and more thoughtful and to do something to improve their communities. That's a profound effect to have on the world. Dan, you've inspired us to create IT GETS BETTER t-shirts to raise money for THE TREVOR PROJECT. Check them out. www.ItGetsBetter.biz

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