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Overall grade: c-minus. Don't bother seeing me after class.
...leaning towards anon.
second of all, who are any of you to judge "who is more selfish". This person wanted to vent about a fucked up situation, not get commentary over who is more selfish or narcissistic.
chill the fuck out people and stop judging
I'm sorry, Anon. People often don't think rationally when they're that depressed.
Now, get thee to a therapist, post haste.
And, jerks in the comments, karma is a bitch.
Except for you, 9...that was funny. Who said a psychology degree wouldn't come in useful?
Now Anon knows a tiny fraction of the pain his/her subject was in. Selfish, indeed.
Ditto "get thee to a counselor".
I'm sorry for the writer here because it appears that there was a rift in play at the time of the suicide and s/he's right- it's cheating. No fair to use a permanent exit to get the last word.
But we'll never know, because there are zero details given. Karma is a bitch indeed. A mythological, made-up, pretend bitch.
and how can anyone speak such hate about someone who was supposedly enduring the same pain? this person is not you, this person couldn't handle the reality of the situation like you could. this person acted upon the only "answer" they thought they had.
it's their loss for taking their own life.
you who empathize with anon make it sound like the suicide victim is chilling in heaven with everyone he loves and is thumbing his nose at anon.
anon is the stronger one because s/he is still here and alive. i think strong enough to take a little criticism about picking up and moving on with your life.
A response like this is pretty much all that's stopped me from killing myself in the past. I think you have a right to resent someone you love killing themselves. It's kind of a bullshit way out, no matter how trendy you Seattle folks think it is.
But I would hope primarily that anyone else considering a similar exit would read this and reconsider. I think my friend would be staggered to have thought at the time that over six years later that there would still be so many people crying over his death from the pits of their souls or how many lives of people who loved him his death would actually ruin in both the short and long term.
People who kill themselves often can't see the love that is right in front of them and all around them, or assume that they are so insignificant that people will get over their deaths soon enough. Not so.
Suicidal thoughts began at age 5 for me and continued into my 40's. After a year of counseling and 10+ years of anti-depressants, I can now realize how much I'm loved and would be missed. But 43 years of 'loveless' existence can be pretty tough.
"Suicide is not chosen; it happens
when pain exceeds
resources for coping with pain."
http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/
People blaming the person who succumbed to the pain will never be able to move forward, because playing the blame game never fixed anything. It may be a response to your own guilt, but the only thing to do with that is what several other commenters said--"Get thee to a therapist."
Suicide: nothing beats it for selfishness.
I was once in this state of mind and I COMPLETELY judge my past self for it. When you're suicidal you think that ending your "pain/suffering" is so much more important than anything else, including how much you would hurt your family and friends by killing yourself. Now looking back at it, it is horrifying that I'd considered it, especially because I found out much later in life that my father's sister committed suicide in her teens. I cannot imagine what that would have put that man through to lose his child in the same way.
So yeah, unless you have some sort of incurable terminal illness that causes you daily ACTUAL severe physical pain, that's pretty damned selfish IMO.
True.
"When people kill themselves they are not exactly sane."
Sometimes true, sometimes false. It is possible to commit suicide while sane. Depression is not the same thing as insanity, although they can be experienced simultaneously.
(((HUGS))) to you, Schick.
I like this line a lot, if for no other reason than that most people who say that karma is a bitch are bitches themselves. If only those people were as made-up and pretend, though they don't need to be myths.
But, of course, there's a process. Grieve. Be furious. I just felt the need to point out that being furious won't really make you feel better, and it certainly won't undo what your friend (I think?) did.
xx
"So yeah, unless you have some sort of incurable terminal illness that causes you daily ACTUAL severe physical pain, that's pretty damned selfish IMO"
Really? Really??? Well, tell my depressed brain that it's not feeling ACTUAL pain, then.