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I am tentatively excited about this one, as well as Where the Wild Things Are. Though if anything, I’m more worried about the latter because the trailer made it seem like it could very easily fall into a crevasse of fake-indie twee.
Whaddaya mean, WHEN did Tim Burton get so weird? My guess is around age two or three.
Weird? Uh… Frankenweenie? Beetlejuice? Hello?
there was a time when Tim wasn’t weird? really?
I just hope it’s conducive to whatever drugs I’ll surely be on when I see it in 3-D.
More over-wrought music….. American films are so predictable that way.
Silence has weight too…..
Visually it looks to be standard issue Burton, which is to say exciting.
Eh. Visually, again, stunning. But I’ll wait and see how Burton is going to match the mood of Disney’s original Alice in Wonderland.
Any news of future projects? Will he do an original film next? I think he’s more interesting when he isn’t just slapping velvet and bells and crazy make-up on something and selling it as something new and exciting.
he’s not weird, Lewis Carroll was.
Looks like the same movie Tim Burton keeps making over and over and over and over again, with the same shitty Danny Elfman score. Can Johnny Depp go away now?
Thank God my kids are too old now to want me to take them to see that crap anymore.
Looks like more Hollywood CGI abuse… takes all the magic out of it for me. And why does Johnny Depp to look like Elijah Wood?
@6 & 9: i’m with you on the overwrought Elfman.
@7 I don’t think Burton’s trying to match *Disney’s* original. I think he’s trying to match Lewis Carroll’s original.
PROJECTILE VOMITTING INTO DAN SAVAGES COOCH.
Terry Gilliam, not Tim Burton, would have been a better choice to translate Lewis Carrol’s masterpiece into film. Now that I think of it Tim Burton IS a second rate Gilliam. This is Burton’s downfall: aspiring to genius but always falling short – just look as his ersatz Edward Gorey wannabe drivel.
Jonathan Miller’s BBC version of Alice in Wonderland, 1966, is weird but oddly unaffecting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrTfEk2P9…
Yes, Danny Elfman must die!
So not excited about this one. The concept of Tim Burton movies is always intriguing, but the execution is always disappointing. All visual pomp with absolutely no soul. I never care about any of the characters in his movies. And the visuals in this one look like CGI-wank and don’t fit the original story at all. Every mopey kid ever has thought about making a creepy Alice in Wonderland. Just stop it.
And Johnny Depp can stay, but Danny Elfman need to go.
I think Burton has done some clever things (or maybe that’s nostalgia talking), but the fact that a “dark” and “edgy” Alice in Wonderland has already been done before, and by a video game (American McGee’s Alice), makes me wonder if he hasn’t seriously, but seriously jumped le shark.
And we all saw Depp play a pasty, oddly gleeful weirdo who hangs around kids before.
Maybe the next project will be Tim Burton Presents The Dark and Edgy Version of The Cat in the Hat, starring Jhonny Depp as a pasty, spacey, child-molesting Cat in the Hat with a soundtrack ripped from all the other Burton movies that Elfman did the music for.
@12: This. ON the other hand, you can’t blame other posters for not actually knowing that Disney didn’t invent Alice in Wonderland, and that Carroll’s Alice is actually a bit of a bad drug trip in and of itself. America’s not big on knowing stuff Disney doesn’t want us to know.
I just hope he doesn’t fuck it up like Willie Wonka.
@12: Yeah, but “original” Alice in Wonderland was a book.
Comparing a book to film wasn’t the point of my comment; I was talking about the cinematic history of Alice in Wonderland.
(Thinking now, I wouldn’t mention “original” at all if I was talking about Lewis Caroll’s story, since that’d be redundant.)
I meant “original” there in the sense that Disney did the most memorable film adaptation and it’s the one people talk about when we talk about Alice in Wonderland *and* movies.
@17: I’m actually Canadian. I also do know who the author of Alice in Wonderland was. (The two facts not necessarily connected.)
@12: Sorry, adding on a bit here: Also, I wasn’t really commenting on Burton’s *intentions.* He might be trying to do a straight-on adaptation of Carroll, but in the end, he’ll be judged by what he’s contributed to the history of Alice in Wonderland as a movie, on a whole. If he can’t top Disney’s effort, he hasn’t done much except make some fancy, expensively CG’d noise.
have you seen the previews for “9”. it looooks so much weirder and amazing… produced by burton though… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoJecu9e…
@21:
Have you seen Acker’s original short?
lets hope it isn’t as bad as willy wonka….this fantasy CGI genre is just becoming so ugly these days.
@5 – I recommend shrooms as the drug of choice. I saw Finding Nemo on shrooms and it was the most intense experience I’ve ever had. Watching this movie on shrooms would probably top watching Finding Nemo. Anyway, i’m there when it comes out.
Man this looks so dark, I can’t wait to buy a tshirt at Hot Topic for this movie.
While it looks interesting at first glance, Burton’s style has become predictable and the Burton/Depp collaborations are old and tired. I am typically a Burton fan, but this has got to stop.
I always thought Depp’s Willy Wonka was based in part on Michael Jackson, in the manner he based Sparrow on Keef.
weird? what was weird about that trailer? i’m interested to see this, but there was nothing surprising about that trailer.
You guys know what would be insane?
If Tim Burton directed a movie and has both Johnny Depp AND Helena Bonham Carter in it?
AND if Danny Elfman did the soundtrack, how nuts would that be?
I would rather have seen Steve Buscemi play the Mad Hatter.
I love this type of “creepy!”
ALICE IN WONDERLAND is a great story either way. def have to see the movie.. on shrooms .. 😀
@14, Jonathan Miller FTW! Burton’s a cliche. He’s “weird” in the way that annoying girls who put glitter on their faces are “weird”. So’s Depp for that matter.
Oh look. It’s Johnny Dep. What a surprise. Oh, and Helen Bonham Carter is in it too. yawn….
Oops…missed a “p” and an “a” in that last comment.
Wow! I have a reason to take acid again!
Umm, he’s always been weird? The trailer looks cool, I just hope it’s better than Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka. Now, that was just wrong.
Burton has just been kicking his heels for years now. When was the last time he did anything genuinely original or exciting?
Burton is and has always been more of a visual artist. And like a painter or sculptor, he has a style. I’ve yet to be truly disappointed by anything he’s done. Then again, I like what I like. I don’t feel the need to tear it apart looking for a rational reason to like it. It’s called “entertainment” for a reason.
And I’ve loved Elfman since Boingo and believe Johnny Depp is one of the most talented actors of our generation (“Blow” and “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”).
Now feel free to call me an idiot so your artsy friends will think your cool.
Burton is interesting visually. Too bad filmmaking is primarily about telling a story at which he is not so hot. Johnny Depp is great outside of Burton’s “I’m such a weirdo” ghetto. The only Burton flick that is worth a damn is Ed Wood and that’s primarily because he didn’t write it.
Oh Yeah!!! You cant go wrong w/Tim Burton!!! & W/Johnny Depp!!!!! OMG!!! This is gonna be DA BOMB!!!! I wanna go!!!!
Isn’t Alice supposed to be a child?
I thought Depp as Willy Wonka would be good but then I was sorely disappointed to see it was another Tim Burton daddy issue film.
Alice in Wonderland will probably suck too.
Johnny Depp was one of my heros in adolescence. I love him in everything he did ranging from Ed Wood, Gilbert Grape to Benny & Joon and Dead Man. You name it I liked it.
But I find Tim Burton’s substance lacking teenage driven revenge films exploitative of Johnny Depp’s charming eccentricities.
& the Burton, Depp, Bonham Carter lineup is boring.
I still have faith in all of them individually but they need to break up.
It’s all too needy and too loud and too easy. The embarrassing rabbit-hole fall is a good example. There isn’t a microscopic speck of originality in it. It’s cheap and easy and vulgar (in all the wrong ways). I think a subtle and slow camera, and lots of silence, would be a better match for Burton’s scenes and characters. But Danny Elfman scoring Tim Burton? Like adding sugar to Fruit Loops.
Contrast, contrast. It’s powerful.