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Also, Boniface's tantrums via Papal Bull are some of the most hilariously childish things in all of Papal history.
I love all of these stories of popes killing other popes to be pope. And that crazy Satan-toasting pope was only 18! How do you get to become a satanic pope at 18? I mean, really. So awesome.
Also, the more I write pope, the funnier the word seems. Pope, pope, pope.
that was mean. I'm a Catholic and I love Pope Benedict. I'll be anxiously awaiting you piece next week about how Mohammed was a pervert... oh, sorry... I doubt that will be published because you're probably too much of a pussy to take on the Muslims, but it's okay to bash what is sacred to us Catholics. What a double standard piece of shit the Stranger is. Maybe you could tell me to "lighten up" and "it's just a joke", but jokes are only funny if you're not the butt of them.
Pro
Spot the redundancy.
Also, Pro, go eat some Jesus flesh and wash it down with blood.
@33: I second that!!
I'm neither Catholic (THANK GOD!!!!) nor of Muslim faith, and although I agree that it sucks to get bashed, the Catholic Church has been openly corrupt since the dawn of Time.
Just because something might be considered sacred doesn't necessarily mean it's right.
I agree to disagree.
nice to see that history is good press. anyway, i must object the authors'
interpretation of the origin of the words pope and father
the word pope comes to us in english from the latin 'papa' which comes to us from the greek, pappas-
please understand that in spanish, portuguese, and italian (not sure about french or romanian and i want to forget anything greek related)
the word for the pope is 'papa' but the word for 'pope' is normally is stressed on the first syllable
while papa (daddy) is stressed on the second. this is pretty much a linguistic truism-
i can say this with a whole heart because
i am a native spanish/portuguese speaker, and speak fluent italian and english.
noe while i agree that there is no doubt a very heavy handed patriarchical history in the
catholic, orthodox and the other christian religions-
and have always been partial to the credo about hanging noblemen with the entrails of the clergy.......
in effect your last comment is completely wrong -
in spanish (and in the other latin languages)
the two words (pope and father)
1. do not mean the same thing
2. are not used the same way
3. in some cases they are in fact even written differently
more importantly, no native speaker of spanish, or any other romance language would ever mistake the two words, no matter the common root.
Carol, of course. From the 80's band Rough Trade?
Hello? Is this thing on?
but language is culture. and i dont want my culture trashed
yes- papa is used in parts of latin america (mine) as the word for potatoe- but since it is not universal in latin i chose not to include it in my comment on the article.
actually, it is pronounced like 'papa as in pope'
with the accent on the first syllable
as opposed to papa as in father
this is a very specific term, and limited to certain parts of latin america only.
in other words it can't be said to be a value as far as latin languages go- not even spanish in its 24 forms.
but hey, lets give one to the author:
lets change that last line to:
in certain parts of latin america, the word for potatoe and the word for pope are written and pronounced identically.
and yet they might just be the same thing!
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Lando.
Bishop of Rhymes.
YES.
and neither is misinformation.
Quit taking yourself so seriously, or get off Slog...
Too funny, Lindy West! If I wasn't a queer, I'd want to marry you! I haven't laughed so hard since the SITC2 review!
the words for father and pope are not the same in spanish.
this is a fact.
you have not done your research correctly and have sadly been misinformed.
another fact.
here comes an opinion:
please try and not insult someone else's language by
pretending you comprehend it. or repeating someone else's miscomprehension
hey #55 OutInBumF:
as far as your little ultimatum goes:
i'm not on facebook, twitter, classmates or myspace or whatever.
i don't take myself seriously at all. not enough at least.
but i think, and spea my mind
which is what i think bothers you
as far as me getting off slog:
are you a moderator? an administrator?
do you somehow maintain this website?
no, you are not. no, you don't.
i think i have just as much a right to comment here as you do.
on top i think you are an asshole.
i have read a lot of nazi style shit here on the strangers website-
but it would have never occured to me to say to someone:
CHANGE OR LEAVE
#55 OutInBumF you really have lost all critical perspective
The word "cuirass" doesn't get used nearly enough these days. Thanks, Lindy West!
Goddamn East Coast bias
your sense of humor is kick-ass, keep up the good work. hell i'm not even in Seattle anymore and i'm still reading this shit 'cause it's great. and it's free.
Being Pope is a dirty job, but someone simply must do it.
Try and remember that the Roman Catholic church is just a continuation of the Roman Empire.
Julius Caesar once served as Pontifex Maximus and now it's simply Benny's (formerly of the Hitler Jugend)turn. You get all of Rome's glory, philosopies, perversions, excesses, etc. along with a great deal of their ancient ceremonies, but with presumably better music. Such a deal. The Eastern Churches merely continue the Byzantine Empire, so with all their ancient wonderfulness, they are much more relaxed about sex, including gay sex.
It's my theory that hip young sophisticates are a little bit ashamed of the western Christianity of which we are all a part against our will. Sort of like having a dirty old mom who turns tricks for beer money and you don't want the country club committee to find out.
But face it, we live in Christendom and we are all children of Western Christian Civilization, whether Jew or Gentile, Atheist, or Agnostic (so quaint). The other choice is the world of Islam, in which I understand pederasty (and similar acts with underage animals) is not exactly unknown. Unfortunately, on your way to join up with their brand of wackiness, keep in mind that they are strapping on the dynamite to blow our chic alors western asses to their Kingdom Come, where we serve them as their slaves for all eternity. Sweet!
So instead of picking on poor old Benny, wish him well in his quest to end the present plaque of boy-buggery and get the Roman clergy back to more socially acceptable sins. Also try and remember that the Roman Catholic Church was apparently hiring gays when precious few other organizations would.
commandment 11 --- Thou Shalt love lift up and laugh with the children.
Another trendy brat trying to be witty and inspired.
What is your age again?
Pretty sure this wasn't meant to "improve relations between Catholics and non-Catholics". How any moral person can remain Catholic these days in beyond me. Remember--your money is going to an organization that knowingly shelters pedophiles and still refuses to bring them to justice.
"You'd be hard pressed to find a Catholic who excuses the horrible things that have happened to children.."
Really?!?! Like this Pope and the last one, who minimized what was happening, covered it up, and cry over police actions that attempt to bring these pedos to justice? Or, what about the culture of secrecy that exists in the Vatican? Or like how the Catholic League says there is "no pedophile crisis" and blames GAY PEOPLE instead of pedo priests? And how the Church supported him, in a document read out from the Holy See in 2009, saying that it wasn't pedophilia but homosexuality that was the problem? Or how a bishop in Spain said that it wasn't really pedophilia because these 13-year old boys are asking for it? (and yes, he's still got his job.) Lile how the articles in the Papal newspaper blame the media and acts like the Pope's the victim? Or--in the most insulting move yet--HOW WOMEN PRIESTS ARE NOW IN THE SAME LEVEL OF 'SIN' AS PEDOPHILES??? Because women wanted equal treatment are totally the same as child-rapists, ammirite?
The actions of this Church at every level have been criminally self-serving, ridiculously immoral and fatally presumptuous. This church doesn't deserve to continue. And, hopefully, the lawsuits and public outrage will force it out of the business of fleecing it's 'flock' for good.
Sometime about 150 years ago, the popes stopped running countries and commanding armies and decided to concentrate mostly on church matters.
Religions survive because people find them useful, so they tune out the occasional folly and hypocrisy of their leaders. Same with governments.