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Did you ask Charles Mudede?

Evil(tm) Evolutionist
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Go out to Pacific Metals and see if they have a piece of scrap of a similar size.
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I have one of these! I was one of the kickstarters. It is fantastic. FANTASTIC. It will absolutely work better than what you already have, if what you have is firebricks and you are making pizza on them. At this point, I make any small breads on the Steel; for larger loaves, you will want to fuss around and see what kind of results you get, and the steel may or may not improve things depending on what exactly you are doing.

tl;dr if the choice is between a pizza stone and a baking steel, get the steel. You'll be happy.
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and @2 - absolutely do not do that. There are coatings and whatnot on industrial metal that you do not want to eat and cannot effectively remove yourself. If you want to be cheap, stick with the firebrick.
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one has to wonder, does tau bake pi too?
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I don't have one. But I have found that a fry pan with a thick bottom distributes the heat evenly and does not burn as easily. But I bake homemade pizza all the time on a cookie sheet and it seems to come out fine.
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According to Serious Eats, it's the best piece of pizza gear you could possibly own:

http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/20…

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Cast-iron comals and griddles are nice. Probably nicer than baking stones, for the purpose. Seems like that there steel would likely work just as well.
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Okay, so people are paying $80 for a piece of 1/4" steel plate with a logo on it: good to know.
@4 there are coatings and whatnot on many cooking supplies that you do not want to eat and cannot effectively remove yourself. I'd feel better about plain, uncoated steel.
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Just use a regular non-stick metal sheet. It might not be "amazing," but the results will be fine.
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Not to be a bitch (though I am) @10, but there is a lot of research on nonstick surfaces and many people think they are unhealthy (Google it). Bread and pizza dough are baked at higher temperatures, so a surface that would be just fine to fry eggs on might start out outgas at 425 degrees.
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I think we need more posts on useful cooking gadgets, and recipes from people on Slog (you paid people and us people down here in the comments). You all need my buffalo chicken dip recipe.
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Raw metal cost for hot rolled A36 plate steel (from onlinemetals.com in Ballard) is roughly $30 (cut yourself) or $42 (they cut). Given this is a product with a nice finish and all of the mill scale removed, I think the $80 is probably worth it.
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YES. You want this. It is the perfect complement to a thriving garden in so far as pizzas are the best place for vegetables, and pizzas off of this are better than anything else you can make without a four figure investment.
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Take that money, buy a meat grinder, and start making sausages and crazy burgers.

Pig cheeks 30% sirloin 40% (30% something lean) = Nice place to start.

And if you already have it, then buy one of these baking steels.
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Okay, I guess I should have been more specific - most people are not adequately equipped to take a piece of industrial metal and make it into a food-safe surface. If you are one of those people, it is a fine idea to order a piece of steel from a metal supplier and clean it up yourself. Depending on how long it takes you to do that, how much you enjoy that sort of thing, and the hourly rate at which you value your free time, you might even derive net benefit from the process relative to purchasing ready-made.

For the rest of us, the Baking Steel is a nice product that is available for purchase at a reasonable price. I, for one, am happy with it.

@5 - pi is wrong. ;)
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Here's the problem with baking in Seattle.

It's impossible.

You can't get dough to rise right, no how no way.

And we know this.

Sourdough bread became our staple because of this.

Really, bread and dough are not that good for you anyway.

I've switched to Swede mode. Instead of bread I eat crackers from IKEA. When in Rome....or when in Stockholm...
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I just ordered my Baking Steel two days ago. I've been using a pizza stone happily for a few years now (both for pizza and bread). I've been excited about the Baking Steel since I first heard of it, but I didn't want to spend $79 when I already had a workable, if slightly inferior, solution. Then last week, my pizza stone cracked in half after I knocked it slightly -- nothing dramatic, just a nudge. Knowing myself, I'm likely to break another stone eventually, so the steel looks better and better.

We looked in to DIY; my husband even went to Online Metals to see what they had in the scrap been. No luck. And I agree with @13 about the price of the Steel.

Next week I'll know if it is as great as Kenji@seriouseats says it is. He's usually right, so I'm exited for mine to arrive.
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@17, Tall Grass, Macrina, Essential, Bakery Nouveau, and a host of other places around here will be very surprised to hear that. So am I; I've never had any trouble rising dough. Something tells me that maybe you don't know what you're talking about.
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I bake bread at home every other day or so, both with and without bread pans, and I don't seem to have any trouble with it rising. Am I missing out on some fundamental breadly nature?
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#15 is a sick fuck. I hope everyone is keeping their cats indoors.
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Is it stainless steel? If not then you're buying some mighty expensive rust-to-be.
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Buy your yeast (SAF) at Big John's PFI. They also have great bulk (organic) flour available in bulk. All in all, a baker and cooks Nirvana.
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@21 save it for your tear-stained letters to Morrissey.
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@19 You forgot the Columbia City Bakery. One of the best.

@17 Next thing you know you are going to tell us that there are no firm erections in Seattle either. Just because your dough doesn't rise, doesn't mean nobody else's does.
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@ 21, given your predilection for posting slaughter vids from youtube, a mild description of sausage ingredients shouldn't be so upsetting.

@ 25, that calls for some Married With Children-style hooting and hollering.
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@10

CRAP! I meant to type use regular NOT-non-stick metal pans and sheets.
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@23 What's SAF?
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@28 SAF is a brand of baker's yeast. I usually buy Red Star in the one pound bag, though Cash & Carry has both.
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Ok now I want one of these! On a side note, though, now that it is outdoor season has anyone tried grilling pizza? Apparently it is amazing but I haven't done it. It looks fiddly and potentially rather dangerous both to the pizza and myself. Is it worth the trouble?
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Also, a steel can survive being baked at 800-1,000 degrees (jimmy the lock mechanism and use the self-clean cycle). Most stones will shatter before they get close to that temp, especially if there's any grease. You need a really wet dough, 80% hydration or more, and be sure your oven door does NOT have a window. Your pizzas will be done in 90 seconds (3 minutes max). Be safe if you try this!
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Noted for possible future purchase for my favorite baker.
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@ 29, try SAF next time.
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@25,
zing!
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@33 I've used SAF, and haven't noticed a difference. SAF owns Red Star now, so I'm not sure there is a difference.
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Good point.
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@16 tau
What coatings are on a piece of hot-rolled a36 plate from the mfg that would make it unsafe for cooking? Most codes I've seen specified a uniform surface requirement to reduce chances for bacteria / fungal growth. Honestly curious here
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I mean once the fabricator has cut / ground everything, not straight from the mill. This "stone" looks like its had an anti-rust coating applied. I wonder how POR-15 behaves in the oven. . .
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I'm confused as to why this is much different from a cast iron baking sheet. Except for costing about four times as much.
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I usually get yeast in the bulk section of stores like Madison Market, so I don't know what brand it it is--I think it might be Red Star. What I am fascinated by is fresh yeast that comes in blocks, but I don't know where to get that in Seattle. Any ideas?
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It's an $80 rock. Having a pizza stone is awesome for sure, but just go get a paving stone for a fraction of the price.
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My pizza stone broke. Into about 5 or so pieces. Sure, it is a cheap one, and sure, maybe I mistreated it. But at least one advantage of this piece of metal thing is that it wouldn't break.
We still use the stone. We just keep all the pieces together in the oven. But sometimes they shift and move around and our crusts catch on the edges....annoying.
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I use a stone and Red Star. I mostly bake baguettes, chibatta, et cetera.

And, absolutely no problem getting my dough to rise.
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@21 I own a cat. I do not eat cats because A. They are pets. B. They have names. C. It's probably illegal. D. Probably taste like shit.

I would never ask culinary advice from a Vegan. It would be akin to asking a dog advice on using thumbs.

Look at what you not eating meat is accomplishing, and if your reply is anything more than "nothing" than you are kidding yourself.

World meat consumption won't be solved by abstaining from eating meat. Same as telling people to abstain from sex accomplishes nothing.

You probably think I'm such a sick fuck for using pig cheeks in burger meat. So that makes me still a less sick fuck than the millions of other Americans who would be perfectly happy to throw away the less palatable parts of animals.
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Any frozen meat product has at least 3 types of meat in them, not counting the organic stuff. I wouldn't touch that. But you put local pig cheek ground with lean sirloin and make a burger I'll eat the shit out of it, and I'll have another to make up for you not having one.
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And lastly, since I'm am passionate about how much I hate the mass production meat industry I want to make a point about how NOT eating meat actually serves to be less productive in fighting the meat industry than eating local sustainable meat.

The more people eat local sustainable meat, the more support that industry gets will result in less support and business for the mass produced meat industry. Supporting local farms by buying local meat is literally the most effective thing you can do to counteract overproduction.

Not eating meat, literally does nothing. Being a vegetarian isn't a solution. It's a fallacy to feel good about oneself. It's fine people can do what they want. But if you want to actually change things, become a lawyer or politician (or tim eyman) and start suing and filing actions and passing legislation against said meat industry.
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Okay, so people are paying $95 for a piece of 1/4" steel plate with a logo on it: paslanmaz boru good to know.

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