Wow this is beyond meta; I hope that saying I am not minding staying off twitter is like saying I don't have a TV, but I don't mind staying off twitter (and I do have a TV, and a facebook acct too)

@1 I think you're onto something there

What? Who?

@5

I dunno, two people that the writer didn't talk to for this high school composition?

I maybe I should write a six-page essay about two people--that Montague kid and that Capulet kid--who hate each other and say a lot of shit about each other's families until they actually met and then they fall in love.

Actually, maybe it's a little more clever than a high school composition. The writer strawmans her way into a Weiss = Hitler or Weiss = totally okay dichotomy that might be slightly higher in sophistication than high school level.

Slow news day?

Clearly not a slow news day, as everything seems to have overshadowed the announcement of a hockey team for Seattle here on Slog.

Why I’m not on Twitter.

@1 @4 @5 @6 @7 @8 @9 the story isn't about Weiss and Peysar, it's about losers on the internet who value hate and anger more than anything else.

Doesn’t it seem kind of weird for the nytimes to run a fluff piece about how their controversial columnist is really nice and people shouldn’t be mean to her?

@10 and Katie:

Thank you.

@10 So, it’s about Dan Savage?

Another well-written little mention from Herzog. Though she's probably still the Devil, I'm beginning to like her. Not ready to invite her swimming, of course.

I tweeted once. Nobody read it.

Okay, you know what's really bugging me about this article? I can't help but think the young woman in the stock image accompanying it is also the miffed girlfriend in the "distracted boyfriend" meme:

https://www.wired.com/story/distracted-boyfriend-meme-photographer-interview/

@14 Dan is probably the most-centrist of the (broadly-speaking) social-justice left. He'll come out as an IDW member eventually

[Their story of coming together is a nice, uplifting piece about how social media platforms make enemies out of people who should be friends and how we could all stand to be just a little more tolerant. As Peyser wrote, if we dismiss everyone we disagree with, where does that leave us?]

Why "SHOULD" they be friends?

Mr Landia - I can think of several YouTube SJWs who don't call men pigs.

@20 Savage’s credibility took a nosedive in 2001 when he supported the Iraq War with full-on blowhard assholery.

He further tanked his credibility when he falsely claimed he was bitankual in a transparent effort to prepare Bernie supporters for voting for Hillary even though he despised Bernie and his supporters. This loathing is even more apparent on this week’s Savage Lovecast where he bashed Bernie for no good reason and then proceeded to gush over the Clintons, specifically focusing on Chelsea.

He’s a party line loser who values hate and anger over coalition building. You know...a real squishbrain.

@20 Dan makes his money the same way the rest of em do - he's got his subscription podcast, he's a part owner of the stranger (fuck, maybe full-owner by now), owns HUMP, etc. As someone who follows a number of 'IDW' type folks, Shapiro is far and away the rightmost of the gang - most are classic 00-era liberals. And considering how much you clearly follow Peterson's work, it seems clear plenty of people outside his patreon subscribers are hearing his takes.

@22 Good! I'm pro social-justice, but I'm anti sowing hate and resentment in the name of justice while delivering nothing of the kind.

@26 does that really matter?

@28 I think you're just describing time. "Sex advice columnist for an alternative weekly" wasn't exactly a "legit, respectable, established career he spent decades building" when I first started reading the column in '95 or '96. It wasn't even online then. These folks today are reaching so many more eyes and ears than Dan could dream of.

In any case, it doesn't matter. Your depiction of "the IDW" is based on lazy stereotypes of 2 or 3 people, what you describe as "graft" is no different than whomevers opinions you tend to respect. And in any case, the writing is on the wall as to where Dan land in regards to the growing gulf between the Social Justice Left and the Classic Liberal Left.

@31 they better comes with the metal shaker too