Bros gonna be all over this thread like white on hoods.

"Most Significant Reelection Challenge Yet"

I'm sure Murray is shaking in his boots.

She's got my vote. More independents not beholden to downtown business association and people willing to hold the cops accountable, please.

@1: Sounds like you got a ringside seat next to your kitties, your coffee, eager for a good fight and ready to pounce.

I wish misogynist trolls would strike today.

Interesting juxtaposition of headlines, and dare I say a certain cognitive dissonance.

There's this good news plucked from LA: "NIMBYs Lose in Los Angeles: Anti-growth Measure S failed."

But then there's this from mayoral candidate Nikkita Oliver: "Developer driven re-zones and growth are swallowing our city whole!" Sure sounds like a NIMBY to me. And let's keep in mind that the recent re-zone of the U District came with (correct me if I'm wrong) unprecedented commitments to affordable housing.

I'm open to hearing other viewpoints, but no one seems able to explain how restricting development solves our housing crisis.

We need a much bigger mix of housing of all types, and especially for lower to middle income people. High Point is a great example of the mixed income, mixed density, architecturally acceptable development that we need much more of.

@7: yeah, you're not really asking that. you're not even using a question mark. go bigot elsewhere.

Also, the CIA is eleventy billion times more fucked up and shady and scary than even Alex Jones could've thought. ICYMI.

@5

Just an observation, Fido.

@9: yeah, I don't get it either.

the john fox/displacement coalition argument is that development & growth forces out POCs &/or the poor, regardless of how well intentioned it is. it's true; it does, but there's essentially no way to stop gentrification and redevelopment at this point. BANANA (build absolutely nothing anywhere never again) is not a solution - the land value will still rise as the demand grows, rents will force the poor to the fringes of the region. the re-zones (High Point had one) at least ensure more capacity.

the public process for all re-zones is exhaustive (and exhausting). why not focus on affordability/workforce set-asides, and extracting re-location funds for displaced residents?

+1ing @8's comments. I guess Heidi isn't really taking a position on her campaign, but if it were a white nimby candidate, Heidi probably would've put their anti city viewpoint in the center, especially to juxtapose the failure of Measure S down in LA.

I don't see how anyone can read the linked campaign website and not conclude that the candidate is a nimby.

@8 "But then there's this from mayoral candidate Nikkita Oliver: "Developer driven re-zones and growth are swallowing our city whole!" Sure sounds like a NIMBY to me. "

Ugh. I'm certainly open to supporting a challenger to Murray from the left, but not someone who thinks the best way to approach a housing shortage is to attenuate it, as an exercise in protectionism for incumbent landlords and driving up the property values of wealthy homeowners is the way forward.

L.A.'s vote is a beautiful thing; I figured S would lose, but not by a better than 2:1 margin. I'm starting to become optimistic that leftists in expensive cities are finally figuring out that incumbent landlord protectionism and generational wealth theft aren't progressive at all.

Unless she repudiates the anti-housing growth implications of that quotation, I can't see supporting her over Murray, even if she's much better on many other issues.

Why no mention of the march that was scheduled for earlier today that was cancelled because Kshama Sawant's march? What happened there? Why didn't Sawant work with the people organizing that march instead of just hijacking it?

@ 9 "High Point is a great example of the mixed income, mixed density, architecturally acceptable development that we need much more of."

I agree....and it only took TEN years to develop and build, multiple bid packages, numerous agencies at the state and federal level, not to mention $70+ million!

Source: http://www.svrdesign.com/high-point-rede…

If we start now, maybe we'll have enough housing for the UW class of 2027!

@9/19 I also agree - High Point is awesome. It also illustrates that developing high quality housing with large public subsidies cannot solve our housing woes, given the scale and urgency of the crisis. @19 has it wrong, as $70+ million was only the cost of landscaping and infrastructure. The actual cost of High Point is $550+ million for 1,700 units of housing, or $300k/unit, and it took two decades to complete (www.seattlehousing.org/redevelopment/hig…).

Developments like High Point are hugely valuable, but the only realistic way to address Seattle's housing shortage is to allow more market-rate development.

@4 Couldn't find any men to meet my deadlines for me.

@8 @16 Thanks for the feedback. I quoted the line of her campaign website that's anti-development. I think people can read that and come to an easy conclusion on their own about whether they agree or not. That said, it's the first day of her campaign and it's one vague point in a very broad platform. I've requested an interview with her to talk more about this and when I know more about her positions, I'll report it. There's a more nuanced discussion about HALA between Oliver and Murray starting around 13:45 here, if anyone is interested: https://www.seattlechannel.org/videos?vi…

The headline really should read "Seattle gets another activist to run for office, no hope for an improved mayor of Seattle". The same Oliver that speaks on defunding the Seattle police department and working towards a society that doesn't need police at all? I think she could be the mayor of a communist camp in Oregon maybe not in the real world.

NIMBY is inaccurate, a bullying word that is not conducive to civil conversation. It certainly should not be used by serious journalists and never by Crosscut.

@19 High Point and Yesler Terrace were the last of the large federal Hope VI program grants to replace aged low-income housing with mixed income rental and homeownership communities. You will not see any more such HUD grants, because of post-recession cuts or because of anti-government sentiment under Carson and Trump.

However, we should ask Yesler Terrace developer Vulcan why one-for-one replacement of low-income apartments is viable for that development, but not on the table as a tool for affordable housing for other parts of Seattle. Because of the huge difference in carrying capacity when single-family and low-rise parcels are upzoned to midrise, 1:1 inclusion results in inclusion of about 15% to 20% low-income units and has the huge benefit of retaining community ties of these residents, as opposed to genteification, even while greatly increasing density.

This pro-density policy demonstrates the inaccuracy of the NIMBY label. Many of us are fixed-income homeowners, not wealthy, not elitist, and we support smart growth, with density at the urban village transit nodes and for mother-in-law apartments, as long as they require homeowners occupancy. Density done right.

I should have called out Heidi @ the Stranger, not Crosscut.

@21, That's really fucked up, Heidi. I'm sorry this so-called alternative paper couldn't find a way to support its female staffers so they had that option.

Hey I'm here the Bro Troll and I just wanted to give you my 2 cents on this but I'm watching NFL network on my 65 inch high def TV here in Cap Hill in my huge 1 bedroom apt. I need to lower this heat man it's toasty in here.

As we all know, NIMBYing is only OK on Capitol Hill.

I looked at the People's Party website, and became concerned at their slogan, "Our Seattle is your city". It reminded me of the old Albertson slogan, "It's Your Store", which always rubbed me the wrong way because I had no ownership of that store. The People's Party website has no information of who the current members of the People's Party are. There is not anything on how the party is structured or governed. Who is allowed to join the party, and how is the governing body accountable to the members? Are they inclusive, anyone can join, or is there limits to who can join? I get concerned when an organization is not open about who they are and how they operate. To quote "The People's Party strives to shorten the distance between politics and the people by designing a political oranizing body which is directly accountable to the people and the communities." This sounds nice, but there are no details about it. If a party wants my support, I want to know who they are and how they operate. Their website does have a Volunteer page, which has various tasks one can volunteer to do, but nothing about joining or the governance of the party. Maybe that will come.

I hear Mr. Snowcone is running for mayor of hell and I still give him better odds than Ms. Oliver as an option. But hey, let's survey the corporate condo/home ownership elite of Seattle and see what they think. I doubt the voters forgot the rude interruptions of when Bernie Sanders was here and BLM interrupted him mid-speech, nor do or will they forget the recent public BLM statements by a preschool teacher to "kill white people" speech. https://bluelivesmatter.blue/seattle-bla…. Buh-bye now.

@31 You're quite the little racist prick, aren't you?

Is that drummer kid still running?

Check that @21 video - she does have a handle on Seattle's phony baloney progressivism. It's good have that conversation.

I think Seattle should give her a chance. What could possibly go wrong?

Maybe while Murray and Oliver battle it out for the I-smoked-a-clove-cigarette-at-a-Sanders-rally vote, a moderate person with the ability to bring a semblance of reality to this city will walk past them to victory. I know, I know...better have another hit of acid.