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1

“The best way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”
A.Lincoln

2

Defeating racism, tribalism, intolerance and all forms of discrimination will liberate us all, victim and perpetrator alike.”
Ban Ki-moon

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“Hiring people because of their color is wrong and it doesn’t matter which color does the hiring. It’s just wrong.” –Muhammad Ali

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“When you discriminate against anyone, you discriminate against everyone.”
Alan Dershowitz

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“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, their race, sex, color, ethnicity, national origin, age, sexual orientation, the presence of any sensory, mental, or physical disability; but by the content of their character.”
–Martin Luther King, Jr.

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"i'm close friends with pedophile jeffrey epstein, and frequently visit his pedophile bungalow myself, because i am a pedophile. also, i killed my first wife"
- alan dershowitz

8

I'm touched at the Senator from Cambodia's concern over divisions in our state. Perhaps he could concentrate on solving our problems here. But I guess that doesn't pay as well.

9

Lots of white people will be singing a different tune about affirmative action in 20-30 years.

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@9 You mean when the Hispanic majority takes over I suspect you're alluding to? You're probably right, but it will be repealed nation-wide if this is the case. Have you looked into everyday Mexican law? It's a bit right-wingish if you ask me.

15

While usually on the left I'd like to remind the readers that the ban passed even in liberal King County. Many otherwise lefty voters said they were actually for it, yet witnessed plenty abuse in the workplace and beyond.

That said, @ 8 with their “Senator from Cambodia” is very likely to be yet another ignorant, multi-layered idiot.

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Oh look, our resident anonymous troll/DID diagnosee is posting false, unattributed quotes again. Here, let me help you out there, little fellow: Quote #1 should be attributed to SCOTUS Justice John Roberts, NOT Abraham Lincoln; #3 is a deliberate misquote - replace "hiring" with "hating" and you have the actual quote. But, hey, I guess you're just too lazy (or think the rest of us are too lazy) to actually look up the originals, amiright?

@10:

Too bad Washington State's only professional Initiative-creator is about to be banned-for-life from creating initiatives...

17

Bad troll.
Bad.

@16 -- I heard Timmy was also being forever banned from wherever
chairs are sold and/or sat upon. That's just what people are saying.

18

@15 if we're remembering I-200, shouldn't we also recall the ballot language itself:
"Shall government be prohibited from discriminating or granting preferential treatment based on race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin in public employment, education, and contracting?"

Plenty of people who are for addressing systemic racism and support affirmative action would answer "yes" before considering the full implications of that answer.

19

I LOVE this guy -- I think we oughtta Affirmative Action Senator Nguyen (D, VN)
directly into the Governership. I mean, we're wasting prescious Time here.

He and AOC for Prez in '24.
And Jay for (what's left of) Interior.

20

now the Supersonics can come back to town!!!!

21

Well, I am not surprised Dems are for affirmative action. They were racist, and they stayed racist. What a shock.

22

No, Timmy is allowed into bean bag stores, but only under adult supervision.

23

If you really wanted to support minorities and women, you wouldn't make them a separate class. One that will be vilified, blamed and scapegoated even when they deserve the education or job they earned.
We could be investing in scholarships, job programs and other methods. Instead, we are focusing on forcing schools and businesses to choose race over merit. This is not the way.

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Race over merit. Dangerous for our economy, democracy, and future.

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If by 'Character, skills' you mean Entitlement, victimhood, than BINGO.

Pass The ERA.
And just say Fuck Off to the Patriarchy.

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@28? Entitlement? Victimhood? Aren't those the a few of the tenets of the Leftists religion? I think so. Sounds like Libtardofarian is projecting again.

Also, affirmative action is nothing but a result of said entitlement and victimhood. It makes people believe that they are entitled to special privileges because if their race or gender. Entitled, because they are victims. Victims of the system. Because of slavery (which none of them lived through), or "patriarchy" (which doesn't exist). And they are totally okay with discriminating against others as long as they get what they want, by the way. Because leftists are hypocrites like that. Classy.

So maybe, get your ideology right, so I wouldn't have to explain your own religion to you, before you decide to type something, dumb fuck. Lol.

30

Affirmative action says to the world that you couldn't get a job with your qualifications, so we had to give you extra points for being female, black, gay, whatever. You couldn't compete on your own. I know, as a woman in a mans field I heard it all the time, regardless of the fact that I got hired with more experience than many of the men who got the same job. It doesn't help, it just puts that stigma on you that you weren't good enough without those 'special qualifications.'

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Hey Kriistofarian! Look at the 31 comment. Victimhood and entitlement anyone? Lol. Just proves my point.

33

LOL -- you completely forgot Reparations, TeeHeeHee.
What about the Reparations?

You know, 40 acres, and a Mule?

300 years of Slavery and another 150 or so of Jim Crow?
You know, Whitelisting, 'colored' drinking fountains
(with extra lead, presumably), Whites ONLY in this part o' Town
and Geo Wallace, standing at the door to the all-White
Schools screaming something about "Over My Dead BODY!"?

That shit's all Behind US, now?
Whoa! I musta (somehow) Missed it.

Oh well -- with the so-called "right's" hollowing out of / eliminating our Middle Class, the vast Majority of us will soon be hoping some small Table Scraps somehow hit the floor and WE get first Dibs on them. Unlikely, but one never knows...

34

Oops, sorry TeeHeeHee -- completly forgot the Terrorism.

What about the Terrorism?

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@33. Ah the incessant "whataboutism" of th left. And the obfuscation. But you want to talk about reparations? Okay. None of the people alive today lived through slavery so they are owed nothing. And second, Democrats were responsible for slavery. Therefore, if you want reparations, then let Democrats pay for it. End if story.

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Gotta score you an Excellent on your History Revisioning, 'End if Story,' TeeHeeHeel.
Well done.

Quick poll -- How many here believe a word TeeHeeHeel types?

Also -- Say, for how long have you been employed by (worked for) FOX?
Where "facts" are strictly for Fools and Truthiness is next to Godlyness.

Gawd, but I DO miss Rodger "Dodger" Goebbels/Ailes.
Oh, and Bellows O'Liarly. Too!

37

@36. That all you got? No counterarguments? Just some ad hominems? To be expected. Sound of the left losing an argument -- music to my ears. :).

P.S. And it is MR. Teehee to you! Get it right! Lol

38

Are any of Tim Eyman’s initiatives still in force, or have they all been found unconstitutional or been repealed?

40

Yep, Mz TeeHeeHeel, looks like you surely Won!
(SO much Winning!)

On the other hand,
see @39.

And let's see some a them "well-reasoned" counter arguments you have in Spades.

Be The Hero you know you are!

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@39. You have made some pretty bold assumptions and assertions. Do you have any evidence to back up such sweeping generalisations? Anecdotal evidence (this and that happened because racism everywhere and always) wouldn't take you far in this debate.

We all know racism and discrimination exists. It is the institutional part we disagree on. There are individual cases that happen, and they should be reviewed as such. Not the "the system is racist and always has been, because racism is to blame for everything that goes wrong, always".

With that said, affirmative action is giving different people special privileges based on nothing but their race/gender. That is what discrimination is. Just look at Harvard's different SAT standards for students of different race and gender (Asians must score higher than African Americans, for example), or college's admission of women over men. That is discrimination, and preferential treatment. Pure and simple.

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@39 Also you glossed over the fact that Supreme Court found race quotas unconstitutional.

43

Look how we fund Education.

If you're wealthy, you go to a good school.
If you're poor, your school will most likely reflect that.

If you have no boots, nor bootstraps,
you're (typically) pretty much fucked.

But it's not just Race.
It's also about Class.

We've been handing America over to the Monied Class for so long we've become almost delighted to do so (well, some of us are). So now it's "Is there a Problem? Yes? Okay, we know how to Fix that -- MORE Tax Cuts for the Billionaires!"

Because they'll Re-Invest in America, By Gawd!
Except -- they never fucking do.
They just own more and more of
OUR Economy.

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More on that from Chas Mudede's column:
"Melinda Cooper in a new issue of Theory and Event:

A more convincing explanation of the current economic malaise [is] four decades of wage suppression and government disinvestment from redistributive public spending...

These politics have employed legal (labor and welfare law reform), constitutional (tax and expenditure limitations, balanced budget amendments), political (union busting), fiscal (human services retrenchment, tax regression) and monetary instruments (central bank independence and inflation targeting) with the precise objective of flattening wages and inflating returns to asset ownership."

They're taking what's left of America away from US.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/04/30/40057121/how-isiss-radicalization-techniques-can-help-you-reduce-personal-debt

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@45. "Yes, the courts are using discrimination in an effort to remedy the effects of discrimination. Not an ideal solution but a better way hasn't been found."

How about judging applicants based on their technical ability, merit, and performance, as opposed to superficial parameters that they can't change (race/gender). There. Fixed it for you. A much better way to strive for equality.

Not to mention it hurts the actual people that affirmative action tries to elevate, in the long run. The expectations/standards are lowered for them and, therefore, they will always underperform. Also, it is a bit insulting because it creates a sense of complacency, and tells those people that they will never be good enough to achieve a standard that everyone else performs to, so institutions have to lower it for them (see comment 30). It's a joke.

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@47 "But too often people are judged by the color of their skin. You know that as well as I do.".

No, actually, I don't. That is what your political narrative dictates. You need to provide some proof of that. In what instances people are judged by the colour of their skin, and that racism, in those said instances did, in fact, occur. You won't, because you can't.


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