News Mar 10, 2023 at 2:00 pm

By God, Dan Strauss May Have Done It

The end of the end. Lester Black

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1

But then we would have more sales tax revenue from cyclists in Ballard and that might create more growth ...

3

After three decades of screwing around with this, I don't see how anyone could construe a letter from a city council member urging yet another study as "finally solv[ing]" this problem.

6

Don't forget, we reached a compromise before. Then, of course, the business interests double-crossed the city. They sued the very same plans they said they wanted. This has been the approach for 20 years. https://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2023/03/10/cm-strauss-asks-mayor-to-study-market-and-leary-for-missing-link/

I'm convinced the only way to win this battle is to play hardball. Put stop signs at every intersection along Shilshole. Remember, the folks doing this claim that a bike lane would be dangerous. Call their bluff. Put the stop signs there, and have a cop enforce it. No rolling stops. My guess is they pull the lawsuits soon after.

8

I think it's perfectly reasonable that the cycling enthusiasts should have a path that is well away from the people who are working.

9

This is the local version of Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football. I'll be surprised if anything gets done. Cascade Bicycle Club (and Seattle Bike Blog reporting on this) both seem willing to consider this compromise, but every effort so far has been sabotaged by the nearby businesses. If the business interests are truly interested in a compromise this time, it will likely get done. But that's a big if.

10

My kingdom for a map!

11

Hallelujah

13

This is ridiculous. The Shilshole route has one traffic light at Market. The proposed route will need a new signal at Leary, add the six existing signals and you've got seven traffic lights potentially delaying a cyclist. Not to mention whatever strange routing SDOT devises for bikes at the intersections to least inconvenience car drivers. News flash for non-cyclists: Time matters. People trying to get somewhere will continue riding on Shilshole. Build this and it will become the Unused Link.

14

Ballard Oil just shut down. From what I recall it was them and Salmon Bay Sand and Gravel (which has another yard full of cement trucks in Fremont crossing the BG trail all day with no problem) opposing this. So maybe with one less litigant left something possibly, perhaps, almost might happen, but I doubt it. These "business interests" have made this into a personal crusade so until they're all retired, cashed out, and moved off to Idaho we won't have a trail.
Also @13 is spot on about the route. Shilshole is the only route that works. It's been studied to death and always the same answer...Shilshole.

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@2: I know from my own stops (where I spend money) that's just not true. Do you actually bike around?

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The Times has an in-depth article on the closing of Ballard Oil and the future of the parcel. It's still zoned for water related use, but that could mean yacht docking or some other gentrification effort that might align more with the bicycle people's interests. Or it could mean another industrial application. I doubt the land will stay vacant for long. The land is too valuable, and the fishing fleet has a need for services.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/ballard-oil-closes-after-85-years-in-seattle-where-oil-and-water-no-longer-mix/

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@8
Yes it is reasonable if the bike path goes through 17th NW, apart from industry.
But as others pointed out, we must never forget the Seattle Process, which added decades to the (maybe) outcome!

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pat L dear, it’s amazing that the Burke-Gilman trail (a former rail line) exists in the first place, given that process.

20

Honestly... what a steaming pile of baloney.

Poor cyclist... they have to stop at a traffic light... boo hoo...... poor you.

Golly I wonder if the mentally challenged folks at SDOT would use the same sympathy for cars that have to stop at every one of those imbecillic bus stops along Denny... where if the bus stops to pick up passengers.. all traffic on a major arterial have to stop and follow ploddingly behind the bus the whole way.

Geeze... cars, trucks... even pedestrian's have to stop at a traffic light.

However, cyclist have superior rights and preferences in Seattle... Frankly, I think they should prohibit SDOT employees from traveling to Amsterdam where they dream up these "concepts"... we are not Amsterdam... We have hills and the city isn't laid out like a medieval town.

How about just follow the rules of the road for cyclist... it has worked very, very well for centuries...


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