It wasnât the meeting the Leschi Community Council thought it would be.
Council President Ashley Martin stood nervously at the front of the crowded room at Grace United Methodist Church, wringing a copy of the councilâs newsletter, The Leschi News, in her hands.
âSo to address the elephant in the roomâŚâ Martin began, explaining that this was originally planned as a neighborhood Q&A with Seattle Police Department Chief Shon Barnes. âThis was also posted as this is a forum to discuss the situation, Iâm not even going to try and describe the right word for it, at Denny Blaine Park.â
Martin decided the first half of the meeting would stick to the original agenda and the second half would be devoted to the âsituation.â
Just who was here to ask Barnes about the âsituationâ was visually obvious. The people with the signs and colorful hair wanted to know: Why did three of his officers make a bunch of legally nude people put their clothes on at a queer nude beach on Sunday and kicked out a trans woman who refused to get dressed?
But first, a brief (roughly twenty-minute) introduction. After discussing his history as a teacher turned cop, his wife, whoâs a doctor, and three kids still back in the midwest, and his lonely home life in Seattle without them, Barnes took questions. He had just started answering one about the Before the Badge training program when Chavisa Woods, who lives in Leschi and has gone to Denny Blaine with her partner for 12 years, lost patience.
âHalf of us are here to talk about Denny Blaine, and you said weâd get time for that,â Woods says.
âYou told us about your college major before you got to Denny Blaine,â someone says. âYou said we would get to Denny Blaine first.â
âNo no,â President Martin says, now seated at a table at the front of the room. âI said we were going to get to the original intent of the meeting first.â
âRespectfully,â Woods says over the babble. âThey are cracking down on queer bodies and raiding queer spaces,â Woods says.
After about twenty more minutes of questions, Woods was called on.
âWe sat here politely and listened to you talk about how great the police are, but a lot of us have never had that experience,â Woods says. âI would like to know why itâs okay for the police to come to queer spaces and start cracking down on people for public nudity, which is not even illegal in the city of Seattle.â
âIs nudity illegal?â says a man at the back with long grey hair. âThatâs the first question.â
âNo,â people groan and yell at him.
Barnes finally pipes up. âSo being nude is free expression, not illegal,â he says. âNot illegal. Let me explain to you what happened.â
Barnes explained that the officers were receiving complaints about nudity and masturbation, which Barnes (hilariously) called âactivity that may shock the conscience.â The officers had been instructed to patrol the park in search of said shocking acts, Barnes says, but âmistakenly they were wrongâ when they asked people to put their clothes on. Barnes was explaining that the trans woman was issued a code of conduct violation and told not to come back to the beach for a week when that woman, standing in the back of the room, interrupted him.
âIt was a business card!â she says. âThatâs what they gave me.â
âAnd to correct you,â says Colleen Kimseylove, co-leader of the park stewardship group Friends of Denny Blaine. âThe officer trespassed the woman for being naked. We have photo evidence, sheâs laying down, sheâs doing nothing.â
âIt is my understanding that that will be rescinded, alright,â Barnes says.
âAm I allowed at the park or not?â says the woman in the back.
âYes,â Barnes says. People clapped. Later, someone in the crowd asked him to say sorry.
âI did that.â
âI was detained!â the woman says. âThatâs not a thing that you apologized for.â
âThatâs something you get sued for,â someone quips.
âWell, we donât comment on pending lawsuits,â Barnes says. (Itâs unclear if there is a pending suit, or if Barnes was saying he couldnât comment on the prospect of being sued. SPD told The Stranger they're unaware of any pending lawsuits.)
At the end of the meeting, Barnes apologized to anyone who âmay have been offendedâ by his officers misinterpreting the law. âWeâre not perfect,â he says.
Sundayâs âmistakeâ came shortly after a neighbors group, Denny Blaine Park for All, sued the city for allegedly allowing the beach to turn into a den of cum and villainy where public sex and masturbation were supposedly commonplace. Masturbation surely happens at Denny Blaine as it does at our cityâs many beautiful parks, as well as on our buses and street corners, but the more than 50 beachgoers whoâve spoken to The Stranger about Denny Blaine in the last year and half say the neighborsâ characterization is overblown. Masturbation is anathema at Denny Blaine, and beachgoers kick people out when they see it. Kimseylove, who is holding an intervention training at the beach on May 18, says they suspect neighbors are reporting masturbation in places like the parking lot where beachgoers arenât even aware itâs happening.
But the suit isnât just going after illegal public masturbation, it alleges that legal nudity violates the Parks Departmentâs code of conduct because itâs depriving them enjoyment of the beach.
The beachgoers just see it as the latest scheme to kick them out. Before the suit, an anonymous donor (later unmasked by the millionaire owner of University Village and next door neighbor to Denny Blaine Park Stuart Sloan, also part of the group that filed the suit) hatched a $1 million plan to build a childrenâs playground at the beach.
Before that plan went public in the fall 2023, Sloan vented his frustrations about nudity in text messages to Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrellâs private cell phone. He sent the Mayor photos of naked people on the beach, which he called âDISGUSTING.â Harrell promised Sloan that deputy Mayor (now SDOT Director) Adiam Emery would help him. Emery and Seattle Parks Department employees met with Sloan for months, even reviewing plans for the park. After a lively and loud public meeting in December 2023, where dozens said the beach was a place of freedom and safety, Parks cancelled the playground.
Public records show Harrell met with Sloan twice, including the day after the city announced the plan was dead, but maintained he never knew the donorâs identity. In the first few months of 2024, beachgoers and neighbors tried to hash out a solution to end the conflict for good, but nothing really came of the talks.
Lately though, the city has paid Denny Blaine extra attention. As The Stranger reported Monday, in March, Seattle Park Rangers told a nude sunbather to either get dressed or move closer to the water where he couldnât be seen from the street. In April, police showed up at least two times as part of the patrols Barnes mentioned last night. Blake Waddell, a beach regular there both times, says one officer told him higher ups were directing the patrols. A sergeant told Kimseylove the same thing at the beach Sunday. (In all these cases, no lewd behavior was found). Waddell, who was also at the beach Sunday, says he filed a complaint with a sergeant on the spot.
In an email, Harrellâs office denied directing SPD to change its approach at Denny Blaine. The Seattle Parks Department says Park Rangers have routinely stopped by Denny Blaine since March 2024 and that thereâs been no change to policy.
According to the lawsuit, neighbors met with City Councilmember Joy Hollingsworth three times last year. Two months ago, after Hollingsworth talked about the meetings on the podcast Seattle Nice, she told The Stranger neighbors had asked park rangers to look out for masturbation, but that there was no plan for that. Hollingsworth told The Stranger by text Monday night that she had no comment on the Sunday incident, but then posted to X that she and her staff were monitoring the âsituationâ and were in active communication with SPD, the Parks Department, and the Mayorâs Office about what happened. Barnes says heâs working with Hollingsworth to set up meetings between SPD and the cityâs queer community. Hollingsworth also recently met with Friends of Denny Blaine.
âMy ongoing hopeâand priorityâis that we can collaboratively develop a solution that respects the parkâs unique heritage while ensuring the safety, dignity, and well-being of everyone who visits,â Hollingsworth wrote.
At last nightâs meeting, Barnes said the âdirected patrolsâ at Denny Blaine would end and that heâd bring in Park Rangers to figure out when it was appropriate to call the cops. Though, when The Stranger asked Parks about the rangers who told a man to put on his clothes, Parks said police would take the lead on complaints of lewd behavior from then on.
One woman at the meeting said the cops hadnât been of much help to beachgoers so far. She said beachgoers used to regularly call about a âpredatorâ harassing women at the beach. When the cops came, theyâd allegedly tell the women the man was harassing to put their clothes on. That man eventually pushed someone down the stairs, nearly killing them, she says. Barnes said he wanted to follow up on that.
A man with a coif of dark hair named Michael asked Barnes if his officers would now know nudity was legal in the park and would ânever again harass someone for simply being in the buff.â
âI will make sure that everyone understands that nudity is legal,â Barnes says. âBut I will not, I could not commit to saying never about anything. I donât know why they may be there. They may be there for something totally unrelated and it gets attributed to that.â
âThatâs, thatâs not the question,â someone says.
âWell, then thatâs the answer,â Barnes says. âNext question.â
When a woman asked what she should do the next time a police officer told her to get dressed at Denny Blaine, Barnes said she could remind them nudity is âfree expressionâ in the city of Seattle, the exact thing beachgoers did Sunday.
âCan we say that you told us it was okay?â she asked. If he answered, laughter and applause drowned it out.
âWe are committed to working with you,â Barnes says, after shooting down Kimseyloveâs request for another half hour of questions. âI donât want anyone to walk out of here, number one, thinking you have a police department that doesnât support who you are ⌠Lastly, let me say this, this conversation is not over.â
Kimseylove wasnât thrilled with Barnes.
âI think that was a show of nonsense,â Kimseylove says, frustrated that Barnes did not make more time for questions and left open the ambiguous possibility of future enforcement. âIf there is an incident, you are the one with the data, the resources, the money, the information to figure out a way to make sure it doesnât happen again. The only variable we are asking you to control, Seattle Police Department, is your own employees.â
That much he could have committed to, Kimseylove says. Four others who spoke with The Stranger werenât confident this was truly over either.