Rep. Randall can't possibly hope to succeed in this; we have it on the very best of political authority that she'd already lost the left:

"Progressives are pulling their support for state Sen. Emily Randall, who is running for Congress in the 6th District..."

(https://www.thestranger.com/news/2024/06/28/79578010/congressional-candidate-emily-randall-loses-the-left-after-taking-a-pro-israel-stance)

@1 Exactly why this is such a pitiful look at me move.

@1

much like the right's Justifications
for our support of the Genocide
in Israel, the Bonespurs malad-
ministration's justifying the
Martial Law that's soon
to Schweep America's
streets.* you righties
will likely be Okay

for the Time Being
depending on the
Depth of your
Bowings:

"Noem said Good
was using her car as a weapon
and was killed while committing an 'act of domestic terrorism,'

and said that people were
being 'trained' to ram
their cars into agents,"

taking a Page outta
the nutnyahoo
Playbook.

*IS Schweeping
hello. Duh.

@3 congrats on one upping Randall in the pitiful virtue signaling contest.

yeah
ya Got me
d13! as wormmy's
always saying (read: PROJECTING).
it's ALL 'just an Act!' I, as You Well Know

am no more Vested in living in a Democracy
unfettered by billionaire kkkontrol than
Any of us Soros-bought-n'-Paid-for
leftist comuniss extremists. why
on Earth should I GAF what
kinda Planet my Progeny
happens to grow up in?

this Planet is YOUR
Oyster, RWNJs! burn
the bitch down! long as
a FEW'll Live Like fucking KINGS!

all is right with the World.

bugger tf off.

@1 and @2 are correct, so why is @3 so stupid?

@7: I take that back, not stupid - just misguided. Sorry Krist.

@6 you might want to Google what’s going on in NY right now. Even your hero’s AOC and Mamdani have had to come out and issue statements against your fellow comrades.

@9

if it were up to
"Centrist" Dems
Mamdani and my
bud AOC'd Still fucking
be a housing counselor/
musician for the former, &
the latter a Bartender. THAT's
what your Closest Allies're 'offering.'

oh, That &
the fucking Abyss
albeit Slightly slower
longer yet vastly as Certainly.

@7, 8 -- ah, no Worries,
KkKoolie! we're All
guided.

I just choose mine by
judging their Fealty
to their Humanity

and the Side of
History they
Choose to
embodee.

oh!
and
FDR,
a fire-
place-side
cocktails sipper.

Thank GOD
For our
Safety
Net.

dontchya Wish
y'All could just
ELIMINATE it?

Just Like
the Billionaire$!
they Appreciate YOU!

@10 sure Jan

Following up on @9:

'Asked by reporters on Friday to respond to the protest [outside a synagogue], which included chants of “Say it loud, say it clear, we support Hamas here,” Mr. Mamdani said in a statement, “the rhetoric and displays that we saw” at the demonstration “are wrong and have no place in our city.”'

'Later in the day, after being criticized from some corners for not denouncing Hamas specifically, Mr. Mamdani went further. “Chants in support of a terrorist organization have no place in our city,” he wrote on social media.'

(https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/09/nyregion/mamdani-hamas-israel-gaza-protest.html)

First, they came for Pro-Palestinian protestors who'd harassed Jews at UCLA. But I wasn't a Pro-Palestinian protestor who'd harassed Jews at UCLA, so I said nothing. Next, they came for Pro-Palestinian protestors who harassed Jews at Columbia University. But I wasn't a Pro-Palestinian protestor who'd harassed Jews at Columbia University, so I said nothing. Then, Mayor Mamdani criticized Pro-Palestinian protestors who'd harassed Jews in Queens. But I'm not a Pro-Palestinian protestor who harassed Jews in Queens, so I said nothing. Finally, Hamas slaughtered Palestinian civilians in Gaza, and like all loud and proud Pro-Palestinian protestors the world over, I said nothing.

There's a hugely powerful moral in there somewhere. Perhaps kristo' can tell us what it is? ;-)

This administration is gutter trash swine. Not because of the color of their skin; merely the disgraceful content of their character, if you can even call it that. These are the lowest common denominator, bribed to realize their worst enabled brutality against those that pay them through our robbed tax dollars in the big beautiful bullshit. No taxation without representation and consent of the governened. You are in control of your vote and your voice. All the money on the world cannot make you bear false witness for ephemeral material gain. Use it to remove these fiends playing god. We are above this. Call your reps, love thy neighbor. A house divided cannot stand, together we are strong.

@13

I Support
Mamdani in This
One Thousand Percent

but for you to
falsely mischaracterize
Progressives in this way only
serves to Illustrate how correctly
your Mendacity's Eared You your Moniker:

The Wormtongue.

bugger tF OFF.

@2, @4: I don't agree with you. Impeachment of DHS Sec. Noem is exactly what the House should pursue, and I'm more than a little chagrined I didn't list it myself. ICE has become a clear and present danger to the lives and health of all Americans, and impeachment of the person in charge would help us to learn exactly why, and reduce this danger to all of us. My comment @1 mocked the Stranger, for trying to prevent Randall's election because Gaza. Every day, we get more and more validation for Gaza always having been a sideshow, and how progressives should have worked with liberals to prevent more Trump, not posed for purity politics promoting Gaza.

As we've already goofed on kristo', and he obligingly fell into the trap I'd baited for him, I'll snap it shut on him now.

@6:

'The Washington chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-WA) told The Stranger this firing was “not an isolated phenomenon” but rather “part of a disturbing trend” that “contributes to a climate of elevated fear and bias, as well as promoting suppression of speech."

'It is past time to stop portraying pro-Palestine supporters as antisemitic simply for criticizing the Israeli government's genocide and war crimes against Palestinians,” said CAIR-WA spokesperson Katie Walker.'

While the Stranger wasn't foolish enough to quote the statements in question, they were foolish enough to provide a link to a story containing them. Here are some of the statements Randall opposed:

'Those included posts describing ... 'Hamas as “the Palestinian resistance” and praising its continued survival, [...] dismissing or denying the atrocities on Oct. 7 as propaganda...'

Those were the statements Randall opposed. Those were the statements CAIR, the Stranger -- and now kristo', has defended.

Randall went on to win elections handily. The Stranger, CAIR, and kristo' have yet to apologize for defending such statements.

I honestly don't know which provides more amusement: when the above-mentioned persons and groups whine at being called supporters of Hamas, or how they always seem able to find ways to support Hamas.

@15

'Eared'?
Who t. fuck
'edits' these?

Oopies! looks
like I Posted
a shade too
quickly!

"but for you [wormmy]
to Falsely Mischaracterize
Progressives in this way only
serves to Illustrate how correctly
your Mendacity's EARNED You your Moniker:

The Wormtongue.

hmmm!

perhaps
I may've suffered
a Misreading of the
Article. further review
is def obv Required. biab!

@15
[&@17!)
Still stand.

til then,
then!

@16 it’s not about whether you agree with it or not. The fact is, it’s not gonna even remotely come close to happening so the only reason she is doing this is to score political points and save her own hide. Maybe she should focus on policies and positions that actually help the people in her district instead of being a virtue signaling narcissist.

@19: First, predictions tend to prove difficult, especially ones which concern future events. Second, Randall won the 2024 three-way primary race easily, and won the general election against a Republican by a double-digit margin. Hardly sounds like someone desperate to "save her own hide." (It's pretty amusing to read you aping the overheated rhetoric the Stranger employed in their attack piece against her.) Third, if threatening Noem with the loss of her job helps prevent ICE from shooting someone in WA-6, then that would actually "help the people in her district."

I'd rather have Congress explore every possible legal response, than simply ignore the issue of ICE agents aggressively pursuing and shooting unarmed citizens. You're free to disagree with me on that, of course.

@14: "This administration is gutter trash swine."

Yeah, but it did tap the brakes on trans kids insanity and boys in girls locker rooms and sports, so that's good.

@1 & 2 are Nazi sympathizers. Pathetic.

@21. If that were true perhaps you could stop your cunt mouth from constantly regurgitating it as today's lukewarm take.

Ehem, that was impolite. What I meant was, perhaps if that were true you wouldn't have to constantly remind yourself of the fact.

@24: I appreciate you elevating your decorum, but it is true and your constant negating the truth doesn't make it a fact.

@22: Go review old footage of Nazi behavior at Auschwitz-Birkenau and report back if you can make the same comment.

Congrats @22 It only took 21 comments to get to Godwins law. Way to end the discussion.

@27 Yeah, I could've just gone with "white supremacists," but if I actually ended this stupid "discussion," then more power to me.

@26: Maybe look up the word "sympathizer." You and your MAGA crew would've excused the horrors of Auschwitz too.

@27: "Congrats @22 It only took 21 comments to get to Godwins law."

While the absolute cheapest of name-calling has often represented the intellectual heights of Doug's 'contributions' at Slog, here he also treats us to the humor of describing two persons in active disagreement as "sympathizers." As usual, the big words simply and easily humiliate him, laughing at him all the while.

Should impeachment be on the menu for reforming ICE? Still plenty to discuss there, Doug's usual spitballing notwithstanding.

@29 I honestly don’t know. Has a dept head ever been impeached? If they are do they have to step down? Trump was impeached and nothing happened. Even if you remove Noem I think we all know the real orders come from above so not much will change until there is a change in the administration. Longer term I would support reforms and a different approach. Do you think we need immigration enforcement in some form?

@30: "Do you think we need immigration enforcement in some form?"

Absolutely. A country which does not / can not enforce borders and immigration policies has, at best, started down the path to becoming a failed state. Therefore, I have never been opposed to the existence of ICE. (Obviously, this administration has put on a clinic in how not to enforce laws of every kind, immigration laws included. That's not the fault of our law-enforcement agencies.)

"Even if you remove Noem I think we all know the real orders come from above so not much will change until there is a change in the administration."

I agree, but conversely, only action from outside the administration has any hope of stopping these killings. Hence my belief that pursuing impeachment could help at this time. (The real answer, of course, was, "don't elect Trump," but that was lost on our ALL GAZA ALL THE TIME friends here.)

"Longer term I would support reforms and a different approach."

Agreed. And I would note in passing that some of the blame here goes to myself, and my fellow liberals, who wrongly thought we could avoid the hard work of immigration reform with "sanctuary cities" and related nonsense. Aside from ignoring our Constitution and federal laws being a really bad idea in the first place, we created a backlash among persons who simply wanted the laws enforced. They were correct, laws still need to be followed even as we debate changing them, and we enabled Trump to appeal to persons who just wanted the laws enforced. This administration's inevitable violent abuse of immigration law enforcement therefore becomes a direct result of liberals (again, myself included) believing we could create an easy way around the hard work of immigration reform.

Tensorna dear, We tried immigration reform the summer of 2024 before the election. The Democrats gave the GOP everything they had always bleated about, and trump shut it down, because this is what he wanted.

Regarding the actual content of the article, I wonder if trump will throw Noem under the bus. I suppose it will all depend on what Regent Miller tells him to do.

I am very interested in who the Democratic Party will put forward for the 4th and 5th districts, for I feel this a great opportunity for them. The announced 4th district GOP candidate is another Tiffany Smiley who would be worse than Newhouse, and I don't know who's running in the 5th, but there's no good reason that district (with Spokane, Walla Walla, Pullman and at least parts of the tri-cities ) should be Republican. The rest of the district is mostly mule deers. I hope the Democrats realize that the Seattle purity voters should not be a factor in their decision, and that they need to spread a little change on the east side of the mountain.

@32 Catalina, our fearless Dem leaders have already proposed to redistrict and gerrymander away any remaining Republican support as part of the new legislative session so it probably won't matter who the GOP runs in those districts. I'm more interested to see if the progressives try to primary Glusencamp Perez down in the 3rd or the legislature tries to get rid of her by changing her district. She has not made many friends on the left lately.

https://housedemocrats.wa.gov/fitzgibbon/2026/01/07/washington-moves-to-fight-for-balanced-and-competitive-national-us-house-maps/

District dear, how would they gerrymander 4&5 to Democrats? (Not that I would object)

As a part-time resident and property owner in D4, it seems to me that it’s purple at best, and a little cash (coupled with a strong candidate) could tip the balance.

Oh, and you dead right about Rep Glusencamp Perez. She may be (horrors!) a “moderate”, but that has kept us from a Rep Kent (who is truly bananas) twice. Outside of Vancouver, which is hardly a beacon of liberalism, that district is as nutso as the most nutso parts of Eastern Washington.

@34 it’s a great question. They must have some sort of plan to do it though because I don’t know why else you would even bother with redistricting. Maybe we would see something like district 13 in Illinois, which is a thin strip that cuts across the entire state. There is a possibility the whole thing could backfire on them especially if they go after Perez. Should be an interesting election season.

@32: The failure that is "sanctuary cities" started long before 2024, dear. And if you really believe giving the Republicans everything they want makes for anything like good policy, then I have a bridge to sell you in my hometown.

@36: Both sides gerrymander because they can't resist the opportunity to choose their voters, instead of the other way around. As the country further polarizes, Republicans gerrymander red states so that Democrats get few to no seats, and the same goes for Democrats in blue states. Bucking this trend are older liberals moving into red states and areas, which being much poorer than blue states and areas, have lower costs of living. At the same time, young people with ambition and talent leave their native red states and areas to escape their native poverty, repression, and boredom. It will be interesting to see which of these trends comes to predominate.

tensorna dear, thank you for whatever that was, but the only one who has mentioned "sanctuary cities" in this thread is you. Were you perhaps replying to yourself?

But now that you mention it, all a "sanctuary city" is is a protection for unskilled labor, which mostly benefits the wealthy. If we had true immigration reform, we wouldn't need them. Again, there was a bipartisan proposal that, was shut down by candidate trump (yet another example of how truly pathetic the GOP has become, in pandering to the dumbest and greediest people in our country).

As you undoubtedly know, we need both skilled and unskilled labor in our aging nation, and for Americans to be able to provide the level of intellect that skilled immigration brings to this country would require a complete overhaul of our education system - something Americans are too cheap to do - and would take a few generations. We don't have enough "best and brightest" (in the true sense of the term) so we have to attract it here, and that is being destroyed by this regime. They're even driving our native-born intelligent young people away from our shores.

I am well aware of how gerrymandering works. It's a tale as old as the republic. Well-run states like California have moved to non-partisan districting committees (or at least had been until Texas decided it was their turn under the trump rimming chair). I think in WA state you could probably reconfigure the 4th and 5th latitudinally, and pick up Spokane to create another blue district, and have everything north of Spokane as a red district (although the Colville reservation is a wild card. I don't know what their voting tendencies are). But, as I said before, WA3 is the one to watch out for. A psychopath like Joe Kent got way too many votes both times he ran.