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political jiu-jitsu;
you become the party of Family Values by not campaigning as defenders of "family values."; and don't set yourselves up as moral examples or arbiters.
Why has no one thought of this before?
Find a clever name for it Dan, and we'll run with it in the midterms.
in the same way that Trump's victory says more about Hillary then Trump;
you've got to wonder about the party that keeps losing the Family Values war to these degenerate disgusting hypocrites.
It seems when the GOP goes low the Democrats find a way to go lower...
True.
But that is the price you pay when you turn your party over to FemiNazis.
The tongue-talking, bug-eyed, hair-pulling, hate-KKKrazed, neo-fascist Evilungelical ChrISIStians must be appeased!!!
Just how exactly is the government supposed to support "Family Values"?
Should we make divorce illegal?
Should we force unwed mothers to have abortions?
Should we make it illegal for people to get married until after they complete College?
The fact is there is no way to litigate "Family Values."
The concept is completely meaningless, and nothing more than a cheap stunt to try to get votes.
All things that already happen.
On this view it is okay for men to cheat because it's harmless and meaningless (but cheating women are whores because of biological differences between the sexes) and it is not so bad to assault women (or deny bodily autonomy in any other way) because they are basically all whores need to be kept in line.
Actually, married people suffered a tax penalty for quite a long time.
That has been changed in recent years, but it still doesn't give married people a tax break, it just no longer gives them a tax penalty.
Single people without children also own homes, so I don't see how a tax break for homeowners promotes Family Values.
Finally, unmarried people with children get larger tax breaks than married people with children ( like the EIC or head of household filing status),
which is sort of the opposite of promoting Family Values.
Thanks for trying though, that was pretty amusing.
As such, the only thing you can point to are the basic things a "family" unit is traditionally supposed to have/do: stable relationships, home ownership, and creating children.
So the government has decided to incentivize all three. Does not necessarily mean you have to literally have a family living in the house.
I would argue that to most people "family values" involves not breaking the law as well, so the government incentivizes law and order by punishing criminals. Nothing to do with a literal "family," but I think anyone would assume that a "Family Values" party would also be one that is tougher on crime.
@11: There's still some hope for Barron, and... does he have a baby sibling? I want to say I saw him making faces to play with a sibling still in swaddling clothes, during the campaign.
More editing. You crossed the line of satire and revealed your false flag nature.
Too bad. You straddle the line between believable Republican and laughable leftist caricature of one pretty well mostly. Kind of amusing really.
@16
Speaking of laughable leftist caricature....
@ general
I have far more respect for former president Obama as a man, husband and father and even president than the current president. Though politically I have equal disagreement with Obama committed (if well concealed) leftism and Trump self involved opportunism not linked to anything but what he thinks will advance Donald Trump.
Having said all that the judgement of a depraved hedonite attacking religion and family and sexual morality because he's capable of none of them (or iintegrity, common decency, rational perspective and on and on and on) like Mr. Savage is entirely valueless to me. On anything.
At all. That trousered ape could tell me the sky was blue and I'd want a second opinion.
HAHAHA. This is how you tell people have been filling out a 1040EZ their whole lives.
Sure. There are the Child Tax Credit and EIC and Dependent Care Credit. But other than that, not really. It is still in fact generally cheaper ā tax wise āto be single and co-habitate.
There used to be a tax penalty for married people that was just recently sort of rectified.
It's also not a tax deduction for "owning" a home it was a deduction for having mortgage interest.
And BTW, Trump just fucked most of the coastal states out of that by limiting the homeowner mortgage-interest deduction and capping SALT deductions. Trump just did that so his vindictive tax code will take money from you out here safe in the Blue States and funnel that money to Billionaires.
I guess you could argue Trump's family values are valuing HIS family with his new estate tax cuts. Though it is surprising he eliminating the deductions on alimony. Considering that saved him a pretty penny.
Here's a clue I'm giving you for free, don't use the phrases "false flag", "crisis actors", "fake news", or "alternative facts" if you want people to to even partially pay attention to what you say.
"Well, you have to keep in mind that the term "Family Values," as noted in this thread, has no actual intrinsic meaning, and is not even tied to a family unit, in popular parlance."
Not only do I completely agree, but I was the one who originally noted it in post number 14.
"....The concept is completely meaningless, and nothing more than a cheap stunt to try to get votes."
- from post #14
I love how you threw in "Tough on Crime" at the end. Another completely meaningless phrase designed to get votes.
My guess is you did that too made me laugh.
You succeeded.
I can see you're having fun today, and that makes me happy.
You"re slipping into Germansausage delusional speak and that's not a good thing.
But you never got back to me on car repair, aging pet care and so on. For a guy expert in everything I was really hoping for your help.
At least weigh in on Fiat charging systems, buddy. Sun'll be out soon and I'd really like to sort out that car.
@27
When a guy pretends to be a Republican that clumsily I think we can safely ignore everything he says as well. But hey, thanks for the language lessons buddy.
If only you'd been able to resist that last paragraph in your comment @24, but alas! Your cover is blown SB.
What with you and Period Troll back is business it's like 2009-2010 all over again!
As you like. If it makes you happy to pretend someone you don't know is someone else you know, it does me no harm.
I'm not generally aware of pop culture but I'm marginally aware of Dan Savage so he must be talked about quite a bit. He can't be a unifying and diplomatic figure from what I've seen. More someone who inspires deep distaste or deep approval depending on one's starting point. Am I wrong about that? Is my distaste unusual?
I gave up slips though. They don't really work under jeans and look pretty silly over them.
It's like he was playing his greatest hits.
That, and referring to Dan as "Mr. Savage" and a trousered ape kind of gave him away.
I'm jealous. I wish my imagination were as severely stunted as yours that I could cast an entire sizeable group of fellow citizens in simplistic generalizations and go about my business satisfied I know all I need about them.
Save an awful lot of getting to know them, finding out how they actually think and all the messy business of not being a bigot.
CS. Lewis coined the phrase trousered ape. Not so much in vogue now, he certainly was among the people I grew up around. I still enjoy him. Point is, it's hardly an obscure reference in people of a certain age and background, since it's a very apt way of describing someone who surrendered ego to id.
But again, if playing Clouseau cranks your starter, knock yourself out.
Nobody hates on Dan Savage quite the way you do, and it shows.
Yeah. Sorry SB. You are outed yet again. The language and diction of this latest incarnation is dead giveaway. This is what? Your third or fourth sock-puppet? Christ almighty, man. What a desperate freak of a loser life you must have.
HAHAHA. These rightwing cretinous trolls are such sad, transparent morons.
Oh well. Into the Greasemonkey Script you go little sock puppet. Good bye. It was entertaining.
You making a mistake doesn't actually obligate me to anything, Doc. Except maybe pity.
Nah.
But where's the advice on the Fiat? And the care of an aging dog? Investments? You know literally ecerything about everything. Share the wealth, man. Come on. Be a pal.
Lo siento!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd1_I_gi…
Xoxo
Thatās pretty funny for a guy who swears heās not Seattle Blues to automatically reply to my post when I DIDNT EVEN QUOTE THE COMMENT, NUMBER, OR USER NAME of who I thought was SB.
Thatās why I did that.
See, somehow a supposed new user knew who a decade old user āSeattle Bluesā was and which comment I meant.
And he fell for it. Hahaha. What an idiot.
Yeah. I block a lot of the troll accounts.
GreaseMonkey works great for that. Though itās a little buggy.
You're embarrassing yourself, Doc.
You can't see it but everyone else can.
You're soooo cool....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m-E4K1X…
You remember when people had to click on your comments back in the day to read them and nobody did?
Like that.
Go bond with centet. I'm sure he'll like your videos.
yes, as we said; he can't but anyone else can...
I might like the complainant, though; she actually used the verb LAY properly. I am hopeful that that was deliberate and not a lucky accident.
Just IS 'blackmail' already.
He got me! Because responding to people directly calling me 'Seattleblues' or 'SB' in agreement is a really clever trap, Skippy.
Idiot.
Like many somewhat intelligent people this Zaius has a vastly over inflated view of himself. These are some of the dumbest people around because they're unable to form accurate assessments of their limits. They're unable to learn since they assume implicitly they already know ecerything. Maybe in a decade or two when he grows up he'll acquire some much needed humility and a saner sense of himself. Not my problem either way.
The fact that in your frothing renunciation of Dr. Z you pretty accurately described your own sweet self is truly a gift from the comedy gods.
It's nice to have you back. Xoxo
The other is Tiffany. She was born on October 13, 1993. The Donald then married Marla in December 20, 1993, a few months after Tiffany was born. So while her parents were eventually in wedlock for a time, Tiffany was nevertheless born out of wedlock.