"The man, 67, was crossing the rails against the light and was hit around 6 p.m., according to police."

When a small minority has an unfair advantage in athletic competition, that's what's harmful and ignites the politics.

I oppose the death penalty, but if we're going to have it, then firing squad is an appropriate means. The more gruesome the better.

Poor poor Sawant. Checks Notes, Hahahahaha. I would wager she is not allowed an entry visa into multiple countries.

@4 Don't worry about her. I'm sure all the public officials she has spent the last 10 years demonizing and crapping all over like a seagull after your Ivar's fries will come to her aid and convince the India government to do the right thing.

Being told she is on a reject list is a lot more than the other people who have their Indian visas denied get as an explanation. Given her criticism of the Indian government, it's not really surprising given the treatment of anyone deemed anti-national.

Thanks, Natty
for that Headline
I can see tS's going
mano-a-mano with the
djt Maladministration. fuck 'em.

(I'll bet tS's far 'right'
commentariat's
gonna keep
the djt well-
Informed).

gotta Love
bigdick Amazon
'specially their Rapt Listener
where your Every Word's a Confession

here's
a Query:
Jeff, should you
happen to Overhear
some little ditty, as yet
uncopyrighted, would it not
be your Fiscal Responsibility* to
just Take said ditty and Use it as you

see fit? afterall it'll be
Your Word vs some
poor schmuck's
& your Share-
holders can
get a little
Hungry/
hangry

(asking for a friend)?

*you've got Shareholders, right?
nevermind them pesky 'Laws'
they're for the Little peeps

@2: and that's why no one likes the Chiefs.

@1, Which violates no laws (standards that have some probability of being coercively enforced). He just didn't like the suggested state suggested social etiquette for public behavior.

@3a

wouldn't
it be Prudent
to Auction Off
places in said firing
squad? give 'em all machine
guns & just et 'er RIP? pay-per-view, Too!

otherwise
ID's just Wasting
scarce Taxpayer Dollar$$$

having Outlawed
all fucking Taxes
And kept all the
Womenfolk
corralled.

@3a

wouldn't
it be Prudent
to Auction Off
places in said firing
squad? give 'em all machine
guns & just et 'er RIP? pay-per-view, Too!

otherwise
ID's just Wasting
scarce Taxpayer Dollar$$$

having Outlawed
all fucking Taxes
And kept all the
Womenfolk
corralled.

"An Italian radiologist is under investigation for taking his injured cat into work during off-hours and administering a CAT scan..."

I mean, what the hell OTHER type of scan is he gonna give his cat?

Hey-oooOOOOHHHH!!!

ah
goody
a Two-fer!

@10 maybe a meow-R-I? boom.

@2 Just wait'll you get a look at the actual men you will now have to compete with.

@2:

There is no objective, empirical data supporting your contention that M2F trans athletes have an "unfair advantage"; that's just what transphobes say to justify their bigotry. There's already a very wide range of physical and morphological variance between athletes of the same sex competing in the same sports. For example: Tyson Fury, the recently retired multiple title-holding world heavyweight boxing champion, has an arm reach of 85 inches, and a height of 6' 9". None of his recent competitors possessed equal attributes; they were all shorter in both height and reach, and most weighed less than him. So, by your standard, Fury clearly had an "unfair advantage" over his opponents and therefore should not have been allowed to fight them, and yet no one even suggested such a thing, because they would have been laughed out of the room if they had.

By the same token, M2F trans athletes are not always bigger, stronger, faster, more agile - use whatever metric you choose - than their competition. Just as there is physical and morphological differences between athletes of the same sex, there are also differences between them and trans competitors, who may in fact be smaller, weigh less, have less strength, speed, etc.

@7: How serendipitous. You must have had a double espresso this morning. Well played.

“Trump imposed sanctions on the International Criminal Court (ICC) because the ICC is investigating Israel for genocide and has issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”

Nathalie Graham’s reporting here is, uh, directionally correct but factually incorrect. The ICC is not “investing Israel for genocide.” The ICC’s jurisdiction is limited to criminal cases against natural persons, not entire countries. The ICC is investigating Prime Minister Netanyahu for various alleged crimes and has issued a warrant for Netanyahu’s arrest, but genocide was not one of the crimes listed in the ICC’s press release describing the warrant.

The actual warrant is secret, so we members of the public do not know what it says, except insofar as the ICC described it in the press release. It is possible the warrant may include a charge of genocide that the ICC chose not to disclose, but that is mere speculation. It is also possible the ICC prosecutor may seek to include a charge of genocide at the Article 61 hearing, but that, too, is merely speculation at this point.

The ICJ, a different international court, is hearing a civil case against Israel alleging a breach of the convention against genocide. However, the ICJ is not an inquisitorial court, so it cannot be said that the ICJ is “investigating” Israel. Instead, it is the state parties to the action who have the burden to provide evidence to the court. There is no non-party investigator in an ICJ case.

International law is a difficult subject to report accurately. When in doubt, just ask Professor Thumpus! 😉

@14 why do we need female divisions then? Why not just let everyone compete openly?

@3, @4: She should appeal for her friends within the Jill Stein administration to help plead her case to the Modi government.

Trans women are taking testosterone blockers that over time will make them less physically competitive against cisgender women, who have varying levels of testosterone, where trans women on hrt have none.

The irony of this moral panic is that trans men are arguably the greater threat to fairness in sports because they are taking hormones that would disqualify a cisgender male athlete. But people hate trans women more than trans men — i mean, people hate women more than men in general — so ftms don’t even register. The most vocal supporters of these bans are cisgender men, and most of them probably think women’s sports are boring.

@2 African Americans are a minority. Many black athletes are taller, stronger, more muscular than white athletes. Perhaps we should ban them from sports.

But that's not the same, because people don't choose their race. Trans people choose to be trans, right?

It's not a "Tesla". It's a "Swasticar".

@17, Then @14 would be complaining about disparate outcomes. 99% of the winners are men when they are only 50% of the population.

Not to mention, Comte dear, that only about 700,000 people between the ages of 13 and 24 identify as trans. Of that population, let's say there's an equal split between transmen and transwomen. (350K each)

Of those transwomen (we'll leave transmen out of the discussion for the moment, because the conservative argument seems to focus on transwomen in sports) let's say 50% of them want to participate in sports (that would be 125,000 transwomen). Of that number, if we go by broader population trends, only about 50% make it to the high school varsity level (60,000 across the country) and only about .002% of them make it to college/pro sports (120)

Of course, this is wildly oversimplified on my part as there are so many nuances to consider: the extent of the transition, the type of sports played, etc etc etc. But I do think it proves that positions taken by people like Our Dear Phoebe are based on hysteria, fear-mongering, and moral panic.

And that's just considering sports. The public bathroom question is beyond stupid. Transpeople make up about 1.4% of the population, and it's estimated that there are about 515,000 transwomen of all ages in the entire country (and about 169,000,000 cis women in the country). There are, and have always been, millions of "gender neutral" bathrooms (single occupancy bathrooms like you see at many small businesses, used by both genders individually) and millions of "women's rooms" (traditional, multi-stall bathrooms). Unlike traditional "men's rooms" where there are urinals, there's typically no chance to see someone actually using the toilet in a "woman's room". The argument here seems to be that transmen are going to lurk in a "women's room" for.......what exactly?

So, again, it's just moral panic nonsense, like we see with sports, promoted by people with cynical interests (Nancy Mace) and morons like President trump and noted divorcee Marjorie Taylor.

@19/@20: So, answer @17 then.

@24 I did, dumbass. Fun but obvious fact that seems to keep eluding you: cisgender men don’t take estrogen and t-blockers.

@19 hormones do not change your underlying biology. Biological men have bigger hearts and lung capacity allowing them to train harder. They have more muscle and bone density which cannot be completely taken away from just HRT especially if they have already gone through puberty. How else do you explain how a middling college swimmer who was ranked in the 500's as a man started to set records when she competed on the female squad? There are sports where women have inherent advantages due to flexibility and better endurance (think ice skating and gymnastics) but in sports that are based on endurance and strength I don't know how you can deny that someone born as a biological male doesn't have an advantage over the average biological female. If they want to compete that is fine but they should not be eligible for records or they should have their own division.

@23: At what point does concern for others turn into hysteria? At what point does caution turn into fear mongering? At what point does our superego turn into moral panic?

Notice how your quips are all at the macro level. Forgive me for taking an interest in humanity at the micro level. It's how I am.

@26, You’re pulling that out of your ass, just like last week when you lied about working at a company that was flagrantly violating anti-discrimination laws in the name of DEI. You just parrot what you hear on the podcasts you listen to without bothering to figure out if it’s real.

Listen, not all trans women are created equal. If you’re not on blockers and hrt, or have only been taking them for a short period, you’re probably going to retain masculine traits that will give you a competitive edge, assuming you had them in the first place, because people’s endocrinology can vary greatly. But “you cannot change your underlying biology” is wrong, because your hormonal balance is biological and that’s the biggest threat to fairness in sports, for women and men alike. You can set limitations for trans women to compete without excluding them entirely just as you can exclude men for “changing their underlying biology” by taking steroids.

I do believe all of the major auto makers agreed to use the Tesla charging standard for new EVs so the decision to block spending on EV chargers has nothing to do with trying to stifle the competition.

When we changed from literal horse power to gasoline powered vehicles, did the Government get involved in subsidizing gas stations? Of course not. Gas powered vehicles were superior and the market readily adopted them. If EVs are superior to gasoline powered autos then the market will adopt them absent government subsidies which only serve to drive up the price of EVs.

Makes perfect sense to me that Idaho would classify abortion pills as a controlled substance since they are literally life ending drugs. More red states should follow this approach.

Glad to see we've got the NCAA back on the side of sanity. Just a few years ago they were protesting bathroom bills and now they are toting the Trump line. Seems their reputation has been thoroughly stomped by all the female athletes who had athletic opportunities stolen from them by mediocre male athletes.

I guess nobody can stand Sawant, eh? To piss of the entire country of India is a pretty impressive feat however.

Bye bye USAID. No longer will American taxpayers dollars go to pay for trangender operas in Columbia. We didn't vote for that shit. Our representatives didn't vote for that shit. It's taxation without representation. Just think of what we're going through politically as Tea Party V3.

The ICC is meaningless. We haven't surrendered our sovereignty to them and we won't. And I dare them to go after Netanyahu. Please, please try and arrest him. See where that gets you with Daddy Trump.

Happy Friday!

@29
eeeeeeew cringe "Daddy Trump"
Wtf is wrong with you?

@30 - what's wrong with you? Why wouldn't you want Trump as your father? Have you seen that perma-smile on Baron's face? He's loving life. (And doing pretty well with the ladies I understand.)

@28 no need to get hostile. There is plenty of research that shows biological men have inherent advantages. Here is one result from a quick Google search: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trans-women-retain-athletic-edge-after-year-hormone-therapy-study-n1252764. No one said "all" either. Certainly there are cases where biological women are better. Michelle Wie competed on the mens tour occasionally as a great example but on average a biological male is going to have an advantage over the average female. That's just a fact.

I don't know why you think my interview story from last week was made up either. That was the rule. You had to include a minority candidate in the loop. You didn't have to hire them, that would violate discrimination law, but you had to include a least one. The NFL has the same rule for head coaches.

@31: Daddy Charles Foster Kane, but never Daddy Donald Trump.

@31 No way in the world would I want Trump as my "daddy"

32, I’m not being hostile, I am just pointing out that you just say things you can’t back up. If I were being hostile I would just tell you to fuck off.

A tech company was risking a discrimination suit by asking applicants to disclose their race, but only to stack the deck for black and natives but not women or other under-represented minorities, in an industry that is hurting the most for gender equality? Sorry but I don’t find this believable, and your silence after I pointed out how self-limiting and risky this would be confirmed my suspicions. This company would be risking everything for no upside.

Re trans athletics, there are many studies, often with conflicting findings. Here is one showing non-athlete trans women on HRT lose lung capacity and muscle mass compared to cisgender men but remain higher than non-athlete cisgender women. The benefits are lost when they adjust for lean body mass.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/56/22/1292

Here is another study, this one in athletes, that finds no difference between trans and cisgender women.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/2/e455/7223439

The point is, the science is far from settled but you are speaking as though it’s a foregone conclusion based entirely on an uneducated understanding of human biology.

WereBackBaby, we're a nurturing and accepting group here on Slog. Tell us how your father hurt you that has made you fantasize about having trump as your "daddy". Is it a true desire to have trump as your father, or is it more of a sexual fetish, perhaps having to do with his incontinence? Do you have a secret desire to change "Daddy Don's" diapers? That would explain so much about you, dear.

Phoebe darling, do put a sock in it. You are, and always have been, the essence of Moral Panic.

@29: “The ICC is meaningless. We haven't surrendered our sovereignty to them and we won't. And I dare them to go after Netanyahu.”

lol, you’re missing the forest for the trees. The practical import of the ICC case against Netanyahu and Gallant is less that it may lead to the defendants’ incarceration and more that it may lead some of Israel’s erstwhile allies to distance themselves from Israel politically, financially, and militarily. The warrants are a serious blow to Israel, regardless of the merits of the case or its ultimate outcome.

To put it in terms you might understand more easily: if the ICC warrant was genuinely “meaningless,” then President Trump wouldn’t have initiated sanctions against the ICC, he would have just ignored it. The very fact the president felt moved to act against the ICC should have clued you in that there is some serious action here. 😉

@36: Don't be snippy, it causes wrinkles.

Don’t project your emotions onto me, Phoebe dear. That’s very Republican.

FTM athletes still compete with women (be that at the Olympics, professional soccer, etc.) - the challenge truly comes down to the MTF athletes. What I truly don’t understand is why trans advocates fall for the trap of MTF athlete advocacy - as some have pointed out on this thread, it’s a minuscule number of athletes but they drive a successful pushback against all things transgender (see blocking care, access to bathrooms, etc.). People have a right to die on whatever hill they choose - I just don’t understand why athletics is one of those hills.

Playing NCAA sports is a privilege not a right. For example to play you have to maintain a certain GPA, and you also used to have to have a certain SAT score. Banning trans women from competing in women's sports, of everything Trump's doing and has planned, is probably the least worth getting worked up about. It's red meat culture war bullshit that fires up the MAGAs but doesn't really hurt anyone in any meaningful way.

@36 - Daddy Trump has a sphincter like a steel trap. I guarantee you the man has no need for diapers.

Obviously he doesn't do anything for me sexually, but he is one helluva leader and one helluva winner. So I look to him for inspiration.

@29: USAID is soft power. It does important work all over the planet, addressing some of the worst humanitarian problems: poverty, climate destruction, nutrition, disease, refugees, & medical care in war zones. Kosovo, Mali, Uganda, Congo, Syria, Haiti, Cambodia, Ukraine, and on and on. places I'd assume you'd rather not have a flood of migrants from.

it's not all transgender operas. in fact, almost none of it is. throwing out the baby with the bathwater is absolutely idiotic, but that's par for the course for President MFer and his clown army.

educate yourself. there's still time; you're only 48.
https://apnews.com/article/usaid-hiv-humanitarian-assistance-disease-spending-20f9cb969ffb6773e57886e34bf69165

@35: Have you ever applied for a position at a federal contractor? I’ve worked for a few (e.g. Boeing) and the company must ask each applicant to identify by gender, race, and ethnicity (Hispanic or not). The applicant may choose not to answer any or all of these questions, but the company must ask. (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2005/10/07/05-20176/obligation-to-solicit-race-and-gender-data-for-agency-enforcement-purposes)

Testosterone is a powerful hormone, and it can permanently alter the body. A lifelong friend of mine is a MtF transitioner, and told me of how she wishes she could have transitioned before puberty. As @40 noted, insistence on equality for MtF athletes seems self-defeating for advocates of trans’ rights.

@39: I'm sorry you feel vulnerable to projected emotions, I hope you find a safe space or therapy for it.

In terms of sheer numbers, the preponderance of damage done by the Trump/NCAA blanket trans ban will of course be to those cisgender women who are routinely and maliciously misgendered due to their masculine-coded size, looks, mannerisms, and/or athletic ability (see last summer's Olympic boxing "scandal" for a prime example) will now face additional scrutiny and harassment. Even if you reject all other arguments for allowing governing bodies to adopt flexible gender policies, this one seems irrefutable -- at least for anyone who professes to care about women's sports.

@35 lol....as @44 noted most companies ask for demographic information as part of their own stats (gender, race, vet status). You don't have to provide it and it doesn't create any more liability than exists normally. As I said the NFL has their own version of that rule. The rule isn't the issue. Like most things its rooted in good intentions, in this case to provide more opportunity for under represented populations. The problem is hiring managers end up interpeting the direction to interview these candidates as an unwritten pressure to make sure you are hiring as well. I'm not sure how to "back it up" so believe it or don't but it did happen and still does.

So one hand you are telling me the science is far from settled but on the other hand you are saying there is absolutely no advantages. Both can't be true simultaneously. In the absence of irrefutable proof I don't think we should tip the scales for the benefits of less than 1% of the population. Short of issuing a blanket ruling for all sports at least create different classes for sports where we know an average man has an advantage over an average female. People should be allowed to compete they just should just have to do it fairly.

Here's another study for you going the other way: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9331831/

"Conclusions
Testosterone drives much of the enhanced athletic performance of males through in utero, early life, and adult exposure. Many anatomical sex differences driven by testosterone are not reversible. Hemoglobin levels and muscle mass are sensitive to adult life testosterone levels, with hemoglobin being the most responsive. Studies in transgender women, and androgen-deprivation treated cancer patients, show muscle mass is retained for many months, even years, and that co-comittant exercise mitigates muscle loss. Given that sports are currently segregated into male and female divisions because of superior male athletic performance, and that estrogen therapy will not reverse most athletic performance parameters, it follows that transgender women will enter the female division with an inherent advantage because of their prior male physiology."

@44, The federal government collects demographic information to determine whether there is any bias in their hiring practices post hoc. It’s possible to collect data without disclosing it to the hiring manager, but he claimed the private company he was working for was asking applicants their race to screen them for interviews so they had at least one black or native applicant, but no other underrepresented group.

Your friend’s wishes to have transitioned sooner makes the case for allowing trans athletes based on factors such as age of transition and length of time on hrt, because not all transitions are the same. Ceding any ground to the far-right is a losing battle because they want to eradicate trans people from public life and roll back queer rights across the board. Giving in to stereotypes about trans women in athletics opens the door for more discrimination in others.

47, the federal government collects this data for post-hoc analysis, not for screening applicants. I have worked in the private sector for my entire career and have never once been asked to disclose any personal information upon applying. As a hiring manager and panel interviewer I have been explicitly instructed not to ask any questions about people’s personal lives for the legal risk.

My stance all along has been to develop better screening for trans athletes based on the science, because everyone’s transition is going to be different, as I’ve said repeatedly in this thread and elsewhere. The science is still developing because these studies are all very small but they all point to a lot of variation in the population, making the case for more nuanced rules than blanket bans, which I oppose, because you people will not stop with trans athletes.

@40. Neither does Ruy Teixeira over at Liberal Patriot, but boy is it a hill. The issue certainly became a cultural "positional good" for evolved folks in certain zipcodes. Positional goods and good politics often do not compliment each other. It's kind of the point. In any case, on this matter people may have to choose between the imagined status of adhering to some luxury beliefs or the pedestrian virtue of being part of a governing majority.

@49: Obviously you haven't had to apply for a new job in decades - congratulations.

@51, I’ve applied for multiple jobs over the last 2+ decades and interviewed countless candidates in that time and have never once been asked to disclose my race, or to ask any applicants to disclose theirs. These policies have been standard practice since the civil rights era.

Look, I know you guys are really committed to believing DEI is designed to discriminate against straight white and asian men when it’s about workplace culture and expanding the applicant pool, not restricting it.

@52: We mean on the application itself. All voluntary as @47 noted. I've even seen on some ask "Do you consider yourself a member of the LGBTQ community?"

Yes I know exactly what you mean and I have never been asked to disclose such information on any job application, and I have been instructed by our company’s interview SOPs to not ask applicants any questions about their personal lives.

Why a company would risk asking questions like this for tons of liability with no discernible upside is beyond me but maybe you guys work for idiots. It certainly wouldn’t surprise me.

WereBackBaby, your obsession with "daddy" trump is more extreme than even I had feared. How long have you been involved with trump's rectal integrity that you can "guarantee" us that he isn't incontinent?

(and let me quietly murmur that I was only referring to pee-pee, not "poo-poo" in that earlier post....)

In any event, there are your fellow Republicans who are concerned.....
https://youtu.be/o_KsI_wkKgI?si=LoEZblhOcQaxW00R

Here: https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-race

If companies are asking for this information they are expected to keep it separate from the application itself to avoid discrimination or even the appearance of it. If your company is using this information to screen applicants they are doing it very, very wrong.

I’m not sure when/where/why trump’s anus entered the chat but the gossip from his trial in nyc was that he stunk so bad people speculated he was wearing diapers because he was lighting up the entire courtroom and the smell was too intense to be explained by gas alone.

Musk is both a foreign and domestic enemy of the US Constitution and all it stands for.

@55: Oh I can top that:

https://youtu.be/b9hxwgH2tN0?t=96

Sawant is upping the ante with India. Her group was “peacefully protesting” at the consulate and got tossed lol

https://mynorthwest.com/local/kshama-sawant/4042124

"Um, whatever you say, Idaho House Republicans, who passed it through to the state Senate"

Appalling! What has this world come to, when Idaho HOUSE members would dare pass anything THROUGH THEIR SENATE!!! ;)

@21

I did Not see MUX’s
Nazipanzikar
comin’ at
me

nor could I hear it
but to be a guinea
pig for MUX, to
DIE for the
Planet’s
RICHEST
Toddler

it’s
Totally
Worth the
Trip to Heaven.

yet another
Benefit of our
unbridled capitalism

& let’s Hear it for the
Vulture Capitalists buying
Up all the Housing Stock, not to
Mention the Hospitals, Trailer Parks

Anything you may Need
The Vulture Cappies
Likely OWN it.

mind the Fentanyl!
on your way
Down,
pards.

@60 et al

You guys know Modi is a Hindu Nationalist right? This is like if the US denied someone from another country entry to see their dying family member because they criticized and protested against Trump. So funny haha

@49: No one here opposes equity in sports, so you might want to climb down off that high horse before you hurt yourself. I personally see DEI as just a modern effort of getting more women and minorities into my profession (engineering), an effort I’ve personally made for my entire career. If DEI threatens mediocre white guys, well then, feature not bug, and I’m happy to laugh them out the door.

As we’ve seen in this thread, the science on elite athletes hasn’t reached any solid conclusions, and as @40 noted, right now we have far more important things to do for trans’ rights than argue for total inclusion in elite athletics.

Thirty years ago, a tiny minority of gays in Seattle even wanted to talk about marriage equality. They wanted to prioritize protections statewide against discrimination in housing and employment. That was the route they chose, and ultimately it was only five years between enactment of full legal protections (2007) and of marriage equality (2012). If they’d insisted upon marriage at the same time as job protection, we might still be working at both. (And marriage equality affects far more persons than does elite athletics.)

49, Lots of people here oppose equity in sports and I’m ok agreeing to disagree with those who aren’t but personally I don’t believe in ceding any ground to the far right

@63 no I did not know that. I can’t say I pay attention to India’s politics. In the case of Sawant she does much more than openly criticize and has spent the last decade demonizing anyone who doesn’t agree with her warped view of the world while openly cheering when tragedy befell someone (eg paul Allen). She’s an awful person and while what is going on with her mom is sad it shouldn’t be a bit surprising.

Gen Z strikes again:

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/how-youtube-is-changing-american-gun-culture/

@63, @66: We might just see it as karmic justice for all the harm she did to Seattle, and to the United States, with her hatefully polarizing, extremist politics. She was Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, and fittingly ended her career as such by stumping for him.

Having stumped for Trump, she really can't complain if another country's government now cruelly enforces a xenophobic policy against admitting persons into their country.

@68: I’d have more sympathy for Sawant’s predicament if she had confined her activism to pure speech. But as I recall, she liked to deploy bullying tactics that crossed the line from criticism to intimidation: doxxing opponents’ home addresses to give to protestors, taking over government buildings, etc. Now that she herself is being subjected to bullying tactics, it’s hard to feel too sorry for her.

In the interests of justice and humanity, she should be allowed to visit her dying mother. But I think we are allowed to ruefully chuckle if she ends up getting denied. 😃

@63, @66, @69: No one should ever be denied the chance to see a dying parent. Full stop. But that does not mean we cannot consider the circumstances of this particular denial.

Even when Sawant wasn't using the bullying tactics @69 described, she still believed in using politics to "punish" someone who disagreed with her: 'At a rally in Michigan last week, Sawant called the state “ground zero to punish Kamala Harris and defeat her.”' (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/at-seattle-rally-sawant-says-harris-deserves-to-lose-1000-times/)

When Sawant stumped for Trump, she knew perfectly well his election would mean his racist policies would be cruelly inflicted upon many innocent persons worldwide. Now that she finds herself suffering punishment by a cruel policy directed against her, she suddenly has a problem with the politics of punishment and cruelty. Perhaps she might now learn a lesson or two from her suffering, regarding her previous dedication to the politics of division, bullying, punishment, and cruelty?

@21, 62 or
was it a MUX
Nazipanzerautokar

yes, i believe, it Was.

@AIPAC,
above

justifying
Justifications:
just a Little genocide

till it's merely
Gentrifuckation
&/or a Landsgrabbing!

so:
does
the American
Taxpayer get a Share too?

those
were OUR
fucking bombs

and since we
HATE FUCKING
CHARITY thnx to thedonolde

let
US get
OUR Money's Worth:

dancing on Palestinian's
Graves MUST come
with a little
$olace.

@68 "She was Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left"

Telling on yourself that your problem with Trump is his presentation not his policies. Your obsession with "horseshoe theory" makes more sense now.

@72: Given that Sawant has stumped for Trump, I oppose both his policies and hers at the very same time, as they are indeed now both exactly the same. Horseshoe Theory FTW!

Thanks, Kshama.

@23, @36, @39, and @55 Catalina Vel-DuRay: +4 for the WIN!!
Keep on rocking the house and don't ever stop.

@38 Phoebe In Wallingford: You might want to reconsider shacking up with raindrop.
That, and an overconsumption of FOX TeeVee watching causes wrinkles as well as brain cancer.
Stop living in fear.

Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Vladimir Putin, Mein Trumpf, and MAGAts ad nauseum are all so batshit crazy.
It's only a matter of time before they declare a global war on each other's raging testosterone, firing at each other, and fighting like rats in an exterminator's trap. All over who's the biggest dick.

@9 kristofarian: When Elon Musk, his bought and paid for sock puppet, Mein Trumpf, Pete Hegseth, and MAGAts ad nauseum start firing at, kill, and eat each other, I'll be bringing out the popcorn, red wine, and dark chocolate.
Knock over the dumb-i-noes!

@13 CKathes: I'm guessing Mu$k'$ Mein Trumpf is already pushing the NCAA for numb, faceless T-1000s, complete with infra-red laser eyes and AI microchips installed in their otherwise empty block heads.
Either that, or Swastika waving Storm Troopers.

Methinks the war on cars is about to get world destructively ugly.
Elon Mu$k'$ MAGA Tool in Chief, Mein Trumpf, deranged sock puppet of the insatiably greedy fossil fuel industry, wants to screw Tesla and EVs.
Meanwhile, Mu$k wants to ban gas powered cars.
"Drill, baby, drill" Alaskans and oil soaked Texans, meanwhile, are most likely saying, "Wait............WHAAAAAAAT?"