There's been a lot of bullshit going on the past six months, but ICE and Trump calling out the national fucking guard over protests (that from all accounts from my friends & family in the area have said are 90% peaceful) is the nail in the coffin of any decorum this administration might've had. These protests don't happen if ICE doesn't constantly fucking show up at elementary school graduations, legal immigration hearings for people ACTIVELY trying to become citizens, and at people's jobs. You wanna go after the ~illegals~ taking yer jerbs? Go after the assholes that are hiring these people under the table and paying them less than minimum wage with no benefits. The work that a lot of immigrants do are the jobs that Americans think they're too good for. Good luck to all these MAGA twats trying to buy food for a reasonable price once farmers realize they have no one to pick the produce or process the meat.

There are people TRYING to do this the right way. Going through all the steps to become citizens, which because of our convoluted and fucked up immigration laws, requires a specialized lawyer and a shit ton of money. The now ex-husband of one of my friends was a DACA kid. Lived in LA since he was about 9 or 10. Had a good job, a loving husband, and after he was able to get his green card, started the process to become an actual citizen. They spent thousands and thousands of dollars on finalizing all of the paperwork, set up his final interview, and paid for a flight to Guadalajara to do said interview at the US consulate there because that was his "home" state. There was one box mischecked and not only did they deny his application, they took his passport (a MEXICAN PASSPORT) and told him he was barred from entering the US for 10 years, let alone was he allowed to try to re-file the paperwork. Couldn't even fly back to LA to pack up his life and move back to a city he hadn't seen in almost 30 years.

Fix the immigration process, THEN go after the people still here undocumented. This is all so fucking backwards and awful.

Just a reminder in 2020 Trump deployed the National Guard to clear a park for a photo op: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/09/national-guard-protests-309932

@1 that's unbelievably fucked up, is the ex-husband doing ok now (or do you even know)?

I'll assume anyone not marching against this fascist fuck on June 14 supports him.

The Stranger: Leftwing answer to Fox News.
TS is the superior product simply due to its comedic value.

@3: Not everyone can march, so it's the thought that counts.

@3 to be honest, if the LA ICE protest is still happening Saturday, it would be infinitely more valuable for anyone inclined to do something to go join that. The 50501 stuff is about as impactful as making a social media post.

@3, and I'll assume most people marching are the kind that can't be bothered to do anything productive or constructive. You know what I mean, the boring, behind-the-scenes work that drives numerous non-profits that have been doing good work regardless of who is in the White House. I'll assume most would be home sitting on their asses if Harris had won, because a Democrat in the White House means: "The world is just fine and doesn't need my efforts".

@2 I saw both of them in Mexico a year and a half ago and he seemed to be doing ok and was at least happy to be able to be near family he hadn't seen in decades, but it was pretty apparent he felt entirely defeated over the whole thing. They'd moved to Puerto Vallarta after the whole shit show, but the entire ordeal and subsequent fallout ended their marriage and my friend moved back to the states.

People know fuck all about the immigration process in this country. I have worked on the paperwork for nuns, FREAKING NUNS and even with an entire legal organization devoted to NOTHING but immigration paperwork for religious communities (nuns, priests, etc) the cost and the paperwork the applicant has to fill out is ridiculous. What @1 describes is 100% accurate. You check ONE wrong box in the, I kid you not, 2 inch stack of paperwork, you are fucked.
Each section is separated by a colored sheet of paper. You put it in UPSIDE DOWN you're fucked. Everything has to be paid for by check and the check has to be stapled in a certain aspect on a specific sheet. If it's crooked, you're fucked.
BTW DO YOU still have a checkbook?
Photos of the inside and outside of the house they are staying plus HARD copies of utility bills for that address must be included.
BTW DO YOU still get your bills on paper?
What happens when an applicant moves? The whole process has to be amended.

Some posters here think it's cute to make snide remarks about the Stranger and how it's covering the shit show that is immigration in this country, but it isn't cute. It's ignorant and callus.

@7,

Why would you assume that? I know lots of folks who are active and vocal about causes in both their personal and professional lives.

thirteen12 @6: "@3 to be honest, if the LA ICE protest is still happening Saturday, it would be infinitely more valuable for anyone inclined to do something to go join that. The 50501 stuff is about as impactful as making a social media post."

If this is not the very essence of dirty tricks by a right-wing influencer, I don't know what is. thirteen12, don't you have to be a little more subtle so as not to betray the true motives behind your false-flag operation?

BTW, the exact thing thirteen12 is trying to prevent is for millions of Americans to show up for the No Kings protests on Saturday or for there to be not a single violent incident. That would be Trump's worst nightmare. Coincidence?

@7 That's a stupid assumption.

LOL, Trump doesn't need "permission" to deploy the Guard or the Marines. And the Supreme Court has been very deferential to Trump and his use of executive authority when authorized by law, so I think Gavin Newscum can suck eggs on this one. Sorry your fee-fees got hurt Gav! Cars burning in the streets, Antifa hurling projectiles at the Police... Yeah, try convincing SCOTUS that is not a rebellion.

If 97 percent of vaccine "experts" can't fill out their disclosure forms adequately, then they aren't smart enough to advise on vaccine policy. Or they have impermissable financial conflicts. Either way, time to hit the road Jack!

Millions of people showing up for the No Kings protest. Hahaha hahaha. No there won't be millions of people. Trump still has strong approval amongst the American People. There will be a couple hundred thousand protesters nationwide, some of them most certainly will get violent, and after the cosplay is finished, Trump's public support will go up another 5%. Surprise, surprise, the normies want strong immigration enforcement and the emotional blackmail ("They are breaking up families!") isn't going to work this time.

@13 so was yours, which I'm pretty sure was their point

@14- Talking about "impermissible financial conflicts" and supporting the Trump Administration is quite the joke.

"Macklemore Robbed: Seattle police say the rapper’s Capitol Hill home was burglarized."

As "journalists," please stop using "robbed" and "burglarized" interchangeably.

"Robbed" is taking property by force or threat of force against a person. It's a crime against people. It's a violent crime.

"Burglarized" is breaking into a structure to take stuff, without threatening people. It's a property crime.

For the "words matter" crowd at The Stranger, I am surprised you would minimize the trauma to human beings by equating robbery with a mere property crime.

"They had zip ties on their wrists and plastic bags over their heads."

Where are the calls for background checks and licenses for those who purchase zip ties and plastic bags from The Stranger.

... if it saves just one life (or three) its worth it.

@3, I hope you are wrong about that since less than 1% of the country is marching against Trump. That would mean 99% support him.

@18: That was really in bad taste.

17, says right there in the post you’re commenting on the nanny was assaulted with bear spray. You don’t even have to click a link to another site to know you’re wrong, you just have to read past the first two words in the post.

"A state National Guard hasn’t been federalized since 1965."

Fact check: That is wrong.

State National Guard Units get routinely federalized. They were federalized for the Iraq wars, the Afghan War, and in smaller numbers and unit sizes for various military deployments around the world.

Federalized for a domestic law enforcement mission? That may not have happened since '65, but that is not what you wrote.

@21, Then the home wasn't "burglarized" it was "robbed". One or the other. They aren't the same thing.

You folks trivialize robbery victims by equating it with burglary, which isn't what happened in this incident.

Quite the turn for the "anti-victimzing" The Stranger, and its commenters.

@21, Also, while we are at it, Macklemore wasn't even robbed, the poor nanny was.

Is it in her employment contract and job duties that she is getting paid to be robbed for Macklemore? Will Macklemore go around for the rest of his life claiming he was robbed because his hired help took pepper spray while people invaded his house? That would be the ultimate in white male privilege, would it not?

NotMyopic likes to focus on one word in a story and debate semantics and google random facts... not actually read full stories or process the information in an intelligent way. He's one step below WereBackBaby because at least WereBackBaby is clearly a fake person made up by a bored 15 year old to kill time.

700 marines and a few thousand guards people a police state not maketh. They say, "oh stay home and let it all fizzle out." But I say keep on going, march peacefully, keep marching PAECEFULLY until the bad actors fizzle out or get arrested. There are more peaceful protesters than violent ones. You know what wore down the brits, peaceful nonviolent protest. Sent them packing. The brits beat them, they lied down to mend or get help, the rest kept marching. It wore down simpletons like the empirical Brits and it will work on this regime. But you must stay PEACEFUL and our numbers must continue the amass to greater paeceful volumes.
Trump is just another fascist, pigeon brained, lousy bag of skin wrapped around a decaying musculo-skeletal mass, no soul, no hope for humanity and certainly no kind of enduring vision that in 50 years time will not leave evidence that his putrid breath ever robbed this world of air better minds utilized effectively.
When I see pictures of neanderthals I see DJT, knuckle dragging ork that he is hopelessly waiting to die. He's just a used up tool for the evil society that pulls his strings.
March on my fellow peaceful protests. I will see you out there this Saturday. Raise your fist, hold the line and continue our long march that is ours to win.

@26 "You know what wore down the brits, peaceful nonviolent protest."

Wait, what?

23, You folks?? What are you even talking about?

By your assertion, the home was burglarized and the nanny was robbed, so if we are to take your pedantry at face value, both are true. This isn’t an interesting observation and it changes nothing about anyone’s understanding of the story, nor does it trivialize robbery victims, but nonetheless even by your own standards you’re somehow still wrong. Lol.

@27 unless you are attempting to overthrow the government and replace it with something else ala a revolution than peaceful protest and working within the system is what you do. It takes longer and isn’t as fun as burning up Waymo’s but MLK and Ghandi made it work. The dipshits out there throwing rocks and burning cars don’t care about immigrants anymore than they care about BLM or Palestinians. They are just there for the chaos.

@24 The Hamburglar must give you hives when he forcefully takes the burgers away from them in every commercial eh? You should probably start a letter writing campaign to Mcdonalds instead of posting here anymore.

Numerous shops and restaurants looted, numerous cars set on fire, countless assaults on police and even other protesters, and we're seriously still doing the "mostly peaceful protests" thing?

Interesting detail about the home-invading robbers that The Stranger failed to include for some totally unknown reason:

"Police say two suspects described only as black males entered the residence and confronted the victim just after midnight."

https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2025/06/police-investigate-after-woman-assaulted-thousands-stolen-in-home-invasion-targeting-capitol-hill-mansion/

30, don’t even get him started on bank robberies

@29 yes, absolutely, if you want to work within a system you must do so using the methods provided for and approved by the system. I'm just trying to figure out where they were saying the Brits were driven out by peaceful protest, because it certainly wasn't here. Even in India that's not really accurate.

@29, Exactly.

@34 here it was a revolution was it not? We literally overthrew the government and replaced it with a far better system. Most of the LARPers running around destroying everything are in it for the same reason. They want to replace our government with a socialist-marxist system however they do not speak for most people. The mistake you and other activists make is correlating their activity with actual outrage against whatever the cause du jour is. It's the same people who protested at the UW, threw down at Cal Anderson a couple weeks ago, created CHOP during 2020. And now they are already starting up shit here in Seattle spurred on by their "comrades" In LA. I saw a few snippets on social media they are all down there with their umbrella's piling up Lime scooters to barricade the federal building downtown. This will no doubt draw a response and then we'll get to join LA with a bunch of havoc and pointless anarchy. So excited for this weekend. You must be thrilled though.

@36 you and I are talking past each other a little and on the main point we don't disagree, which is that there's a difference in methods called for between seeking to remove a government and trying to bring about change within a system. But even as to the latter, as it's been said: "in order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience." Does Trump?

@25 - I'm 15 going on 50. You think I'm a adolescent troll because you don't like the comments I post, and since you can't refute them, you attack the messenger instead. Pathetic but understandable human behavior.

@37 we both know he does not. I would argue the dipshits on the other side of the equation that are currently trashing parts of Los Angeles and are now starting up in downtown Seattle to get their rocks off are no better than he is. They both are getting the conflict they so desperately seek and the rest of us are going to pay the price for it.

@39 barricading exits from a federal building garage to disrupt ICE movements is nonviolent, and good.

@38 The fact that you claim to be pushing 50 has no effect on the fact that you, at best, act like an adolescent troll. Still, calling you that is pointless. The truth is that you are a moron, a Fascist, and the natural enemy of every loyal American. Your worship of a rapist, pedophile, and convicted felon is disgusting.

@40 do you honestly think they are going to stop with that? I also don't think Lime would appreciate their scooters being used as fodder for the protest. Again this isn't about ICE though, the people down there are just looking for a confrontation and ICE happens to be the object of their attention right now. They want SPD and ICE to respond so then they have the green light to start tearing shit up.

@31 There are no reports of any shops or restaurants being looted in any of the protests. While four Waymo robo-taxies were set on fire in LA, property damage is not violence, and it was an act performed by a tiny fraction of the people involved in the protests. So far, all the violence has been from Government agents.

@43 - You are simply WRONG. Looting has been reported by many news agencies. Here's ABC 7 for example, posted 9 hours ago:

"Stores looted amid continued unrest in downtown L.A.":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j9Y68Y8t7A

@28, Nope, it was a robbery. If no one had been encountered its a burglary. If they encounter people and use force or threat of force it becomes the more serious crime of robbery. You can't charge twice for the same criminal act, its double jeopardy. Force was used to take property.

A reporter should know the difference between Robbery (a violent crime against people) and Burglary, which is a property crime.

A burglary would be, "Macklemore's poor house and stuff." A robbery is, "The poor nanny!" (and therefore, who gives two shits about the house, the property, and who's house it was.)

For that matter everyone ought to know the difference between Robbery and Burglary, but they don't teach civics in high school anymore. Only 7 states require a full year of dedicated civics instruction. Only 17 states require a civics assessment to graduate.

How long has The Stranger been including crime, or alleged crimes, in the SLOG?

How long has The Stranger been telling us words matter and that we can traumatize and diminish people and their experiences with the wrong words?

@41 / 43

Be careful throwing around the F word. Pretty soon the word will be meaningless. If it's not already.

And property damage is violence, at least by dictionary definition.

@43 - "Downtown L.A. businesses looted overnight"
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/downtown-l-a-businesses-looted-overnight-as-ice-protests-expected-to-continue-monday/

"LA Apple Store looted in anti-ICE riots
Apple, Adidas and other stores have been hit amid days of anti-ICE rioting in Los Angeles"
https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-us/la-apple-store-looted-anti-ice-riots

You do understand that a simple google search can prevent you posting uninformed comments and from making a fool of yourself on the interenet, right?

@45 "Nope, it was a robbery. If no one had been encountered its a burglary. If they encounter people and use force or threat of force it becomes the more serious crime of robbery."

If you insist on being pedantic you should at least get your facts straight. In this situation the suspects committed burglary when they entered the home without permission to steal from inside, AND robbery when they used force to accomplish the theft. And assaulting the person inside made it a 1st Degree Burglary which is an A felony, the most serious kind.

@45, just to be clear you’ve done a complete 180 on your initial pedantry, but somehow still adamant that the stranger was wrong when it was the opposite of wrong by your current understanding of these words. Nonetheless you’re still wrong, but in a completely different way. Lol.

“While these crimes differ, they can be committed together in a single event.”

https://www.usnews.com/360-reviews/services/home-security/burglary-vs-robbery

I have never been told by the stranger that it’s traumatizing to use the wrong words but maybe this is something they do all the time and I keep missing it. In any case I have a hard time believing macklemore’s nanny would be offended if you called her the victim of a burglary instead of a robbery, but I’m sure she would appreciate your taking a bullet for her in these comments if she had any reason to give a shit.

@43 An Adidas store, an Apple Store, two dispensaries, a pharmacy, a jewelry store, and a sushi restaurant were looted. In addition to the five (not four) Waymo's burned, a California Highway Patrol vehicle was torched. A federal officer was cut open by a rock through the windshield, and there are literally countless videos of officers and police horses assaulted by bottles, rocks, fireworks, etc. Literally every single thing you said was wrong and you don't seem to know anything about these protests so I'm not sure why you even bothered commenting. Just shows how obliviously and confidently in a bubble some people can be in their media environment.

@43 - There's also video of a "protester" literally shooting a pistol at cops.
Say some more stupid naive shit though!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKvOSS8yUHS/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

If the SEIU and other unions call a general strike, then I will be impressed.

@14 he doesn’t have strong approval of most Americans, you fucking fuck. He had the lowest approval rating of a sitting president.

Also he cannot lawfully deploy either national guard nor the marines in the way that he did.

Get sincerely fucked, you absolute cumshit stain is of a person.

@40: "...barricading exits from a federal building garage to disrupt ICE movements is nonviolent, and good."

It's stupid, and if you're very lucky, it's merely useless. More likely, it will prove counterproductive -- or even more destructive -- as D13 keeps trying to tell you.

(If you really believe blocking the federal building in Seattle will hamper ICE in the slightest, then I've got a bridge to sell you -- a mere 2,400 miles from Seattle.)

I like turtles

@44 The looting happened after most of the protestors had gone home. In any mass protest, you are always going to have a few hot heads, extremists, and troublemakers. Ascribing blame to the many for the act of a few when they had already left is wrong.

@46 I'm not throwing the word "Fascist" around. I am using it very carefully and within the historical understanding of Fascism. Both you and Trump want an authoritarian state where the opposition has no power to stop your desired excess. Your Un-American movement will, unfortunately, probably require a Second Amendment solution.

@56 This is so bizarre. Get proven utterly wrong on every single point you made and just admit nothing and learn nothing.

I believe the past tense of the verb is ' burgled'. It sound funny, but better than 'burglarized', which has to be wrong. Not sure it even has a present tense.

Lots of complaints about naturalizing, I can emphathize.
Wouldn't it be great if the Dems had a pro-active plan ready to go, to help immigrants who want to naturalize. Throw in some fines for overstaying (nothing more American than buying your way in) and prove you have no criminal record and start a fair and transparent process.
There has to be a process and some hurdle, but it could allow workers to stay.
But Dems won't manage it and the other team wants workers without rights.

@60: Congress and White House controlled by Republicans, and yet it's still the Democrats' fault.

No matter what happens in out the real world, nothing ever changes in here.

Oh no! Not the poor apple store! I mean... are they looters or burglars though? That seems to be the most important question.

Also, the president is a rapist, child molester and convicted felon. Stealing shit shouldn't even be considered a crime at this point, right?

@54 "More likely, it will prove counterproductive"

You think barricading garage exits will likely make it * easier * for ICE to transport immigrants from the facility?

@54

“ You think barricading garage exits will likely make it * easier * for ICE to transport immigrants from the facility?”

It will certainly make it more difficult for Democrats to win Congressional elections in places like Vancouver, Washington, Omaha, Nebraska, Davenport, Iowa, and Allentown, PA.

If Mike Johnson is still Speaker of the House after the midterms….

@64 really because in 2020, in the immediate wake of the George Floyd protests, Democrats won control of the entire government

@65

In the 116th Congress Democrats had 235 seats giving them a majority of 36 seats. After your riots, in the 117th Congress Democrats lost 13 seats giving them 222 seats for a majority of 9, at the time the slimmest margin in history.

After your riots in the 117th Congress neither party achieved a majority with both sides holding 50 seats.

The 2020 Presidential elections had an incredibly unpopular incumbent who had completely mismanaged a national crisis. Instead of a landslide defeat Trump was narrowly defeated, a swing of only 10,000 votes in one of five swing states would have changed the outcome.

Trump’s defeat in 2020 should have been so resounding that he and all his political allies should have been swept into the dust bin of history.

Instead, thanks to your meaningless riots, the 2020 elections were close enough that he survived and was able to rebuild his support.

A plague in ye!

@66 so if we keep "RiOtInG" Democrats will win total control of government BUT not by very much? Well shit that would sure be awful, guess we better just stand aside and let ICE disappear members of our community.

@63: 'You think barricading garage exits will likely make it * easier * for ICE to transport immigrants from the facility?'

Ho-lee shit, you actually believe ICE detains persons in an office building in downtown Seattle? How? By barricading them into conference rooms with desks?

In reality, ICE holds detainees in a prison-like complex, near the rail yards in Tacoma:

Northwest ICE Processing Center (NWIPC)
Seattle Field Office
1623 E J Street, Suite 2
Tacoma, WA 98421-1615

(https://www.ice.gov/detain/detention-facilities/northwest-ice-processing-center-nwipc)

@68 how do they get them there, teleportation?

"On Tuesday morning, about 40 people gathered at the Henry M. Jackson Federal Building in downtown Seattle, which houses a federal immigration court. ... Just a few weeks ago, Immigration and Customs Enforcement began arresting people attending hearings in this building, after their hearings were dismissed by judges. ... An immigration attorney told KUOW people taken from the courthouse by ICE could be on a plane out of the U.S. “in three hours.”

https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-immigration-protests-block-ice-vans-from-leaving-federal-building

@69: OK, I'll type this slowly, so you have time to try and catch up. The federal building has several different functions. One is a federal immigration court, just as you quoted. ICE can arrest persons out of that court and take them to the detention facility in Tacoma, or deport them directly. On any given day, such persons may or may not be present in the federal office building. Blocking one or another vehicle exit won't really impede such removals; the building has many exits.

If the protestors really wanted to prevent detained persons from getting deported, then they should have blockaded the entire detention facility in Tacoma. Why did they not even try?

@70 just admit you didn't know the federal building housed an immigration court and ICE has been detaining immigrants there, it's ok to not know what you're talking about sometimes

@69: You might want to read your source a little more carefully. There's no evidence the protestors stopped ICE from taking any person out of the federal building. As I wrote, "On any given day, such persons may or may not be present in the federal office building. Blocking one or another vehicle exit won't really impede such removals; the building has many exits."

@71: "...just admit you didn't know the federal building housed an immigration court..."

Well, no, I knew the building housed an immigration court. (Hint: it's federal building in the middle of downtown.)

"...ICE has been detaining immigrants there..."

No, ICE has been arresting illegal immigrants there, and deporting them. Here, try again. From one of the linked stories at your link:

'“All of a sudden… …what that means is that they can be on a plane out of here in three hours,” said Eilish Villa Malone, one of a handful of immigration attorneys awaiting their clients' cases.'

If they're arrested at the federal building downtown, and then "on a plane out of here in three hours,” then they are, by definition, not being detained at the federal building. Or anywhere else. In fact, they are being rapidly transported, which is the very opposite of being detained. (See how that works?)

"...it's ok to not know what you're talking about sometimes"

Or, in your case, all of the times.

@72 oh I see you also don't know what "detained" means. It's honestly impressive you can be so ignorant yet so self-assured

@73: Again, it would be a feat for any private citizen to travel from downtown Seattle to Sea-Tac and be on an international flight "in three hours." Anyone making that trip that fast is clearly not being "detained," so you're the one with the ignorance problem here. FYI:

de·tain
/dəˈtān/
verb
past tense: detained; past participle: detained
keep (someone) from proceeding; hold back.
"she made to open the door, but he detained her"

See? It requires impeded motion, not expedited motion. Total opposite. You're welcome!

@74 know when to quit

@76: Know when you've lost, so we can be done here. I'm tired of having to detain you. ;-)