International District stabbings: On Friday, someone stabbed five people in what appears to be a random, unprovoked attack in Seattle’s Chinatown International District. The same person is believed to be responsible for other stabbings in the neighborhood that occurred between Thursday and Friday. In total, police believe the suspect stabbed nine victims in two days. Police arrested the suspect on Friday. His bail was set for $2 million.
Back at it: Around 300 people gathered over the weekend at the Space Needle for a rally against Donald Trump’s re-election. It feels like we were protesting Donald Trump’s presidency just yesterday. Time is a flat circle when your country keeps electing a fascist.
Hundreds of immigrants, students, activists and union workers are protesting in Seattle against U.S. imperialism, violent policies against migrants, police violence and structural economic violence and exploitation by the capitalist class. pic.twitter.com/dZ9JFFPAii
— Guy Oron (@GuyOron) November 9, 2024
Wet, wet, wet: The rain is here. I hope you like it.
🌧️ Showers are here to stay, with wet conditions on track through the week. #WAwx pic.twitter.com/0yM2lMdZH7
— NWS Seattle (@NWSSeattle) November 11, 2024
Income tax when? According to 2023 census data, the median wages for tech workers in the Seattle area last year was about $157,200. That’s a $14,000 increase from 2022’s tech-worker wage estimate, according to the Seattle Times’ FYI Guy. Meanwhile, the median income for non-tech workers in Seattle was about $81,100 and only bumped up a measly $2,800 since 2022.
Vaccinate your kids: Stop being stupid and get your kids their shots. Whooping cough is on the rise with nearly 1,200 cases documented statewide. Of those cases, over 80% are in children. “This is just the tip of the iceberg. We’re starting to see the impact of waning immunization,” Dr. James Lewis, a health officer with the Snohomish County Health Department, told KIRO7.
Help SIFF staff out: Go see a secret staff pick on Wednesday and throw a few bucks in the kitty to help support SIFF workers who are out of a job now that the Egyptian Theater out of commission.
A pipe burst at The Egyptian and SIFF staff need our community’s support!
Join us on November 13th at 7pm for a free screening of a VERY secret and VERY good movie. Tickets are free, but please donate to the fundraiser linked on our web page! https://t.co/AjQjZHaWJf pic.twitter.com/GLANjC3Hrs
— Northwest Film Forum (@nwfilmforum) November 9, 2024
Analysis suggests Gaza dead are mostly women and children: New analysis from the United Nations Human Rights Office found that 70% of those killed by Israel in Gaza were women and children. The UN verified the details of 8,119 people killed in Gaza from November 2023 to April 2024. Of them, 26 percent were women. Around 44 percent were children, most commonly between five and nine years old. The report said the data indicates “an apparent indifference to the death of civilians and the impact of the means and methods of warfare.”
Wildfire to the East: Dry, windy conditions are to blame for a brush fire in New Jersey that now covers 39 acres. The blaze is currently 30% contained. Meanwhile, at least six more fires are burning in the state. And at the same time, two acres burned in the middle of Brooklyn’s Prospect Park, killing a teenage park ranger. Wildfires have increased in east coast states thanks to historic droughts. Boston to New York City and Philadelphia to Washington, D.C are under red flag warnings. The bad news is everything is going to get worse thanks to who we elected president.
Meanwhile: A California blaze tearing through Ventura County is 31% contained and still covers 32 square miles.
Trump chooses UN ambassador: New York Rep. Elise Stefanik has been chosen to fill the role. Stefanik, who serves as House Republican Conference Chair, is a Trump loyalist with little foreign policy experience. Trump called her a “strong, tough, and smart America First fighter.”
Bird flu in Canada: The first presumptive case of bird flu in a human has been identified in British Columbia. The infected person is a teenager who likely contracted the illness from contact with animals. So far, the virus hasn’t spread from human to human.
Another abortion horror story: A woman in Georgia was 18 weeks pregnant with her second child when she miscarried. Despite her bleeding and her risk of serious infection, doctors could not perform a routine dilation and curettage due to abortion laws. They had to wait 24 hours or until the woman seemed like she might die unless she received the surgery. Sure enough, they waited until her hemoglobin levels were perilously low and then operated. While she survived, the pain and fear she went through was not medically necessary. Her pain was legislated.
Wicked whoopsie: Mattel released special dolls for the new Wicked movie. On the bottom of the packaging, Mattel listed “Wicked.com” to drive people to the movie site. Only Wicked.com is a porn site that makes parody porn movies. Mattel said sorry.
A song for your Monday: You like to groove, right?

This data is welcome, even if what it tells us is unpleasant.
“Analysis suggests Gaza dead are mostly women and children: New analysis from the United Nations Human Rights Office found that 70% of those killed by Israel in Gaza were women and children. The UN verified the details of 8,119 people killed in Gaza from November 2023 to April 2024. Of them, 26 percent were women. Around 44 percent were children, most commonly between five and nine years old.”
As horrific as that is, it has no bearing on whether the attacks are legal under the Laws of Armed Conflict (LOAC). LOAC makes collateral damage lawful as long as a military objective is being targeted (I.e. Hamas or Hezbollah personnel and facilities under, adjacent, or interspersed with military objectives).
There is nothing in international law or domestic law that requires you to suffer attack from someone hiding behind women’s skirts for shelter. If your attacker chooses that as a shield, both international and domestic law allow you to shoot through that shield in self-defense.
So the welfare of non-combatants is in Hezbollah’s and Hamas’s court. The IDF can’t control where they attack from our who they choose as shielding.
Article 51 of the U.N. Charter remains the controlling principle. It isn’t voided by an attacker erecting human shields or putting their military forts, rocket bases, barracks, and warehouses under or next to housing, hospitals, and business districts.
More than 5 people stabbed.
Imagine the outrage if someone had put an end to the stabbings by shooting ‘the suspect’
Horrible suffering in Gaza because both antagonists don’t want peace and suffering in Europe and America as antisemitism rage accelerates.
https://youtu.be/7ErQUYNeYfM?feature=shared
Imagine the very justifiable outrage we would be hearing from a competent and accountable council member if there had been nine stabbings over the course of two days in their district. But it seems like Councilmember Morales is content to let the ID – and Little Saigon in particular – be the dumping ground for all the human misery in the region.
I hate being a Mrs Reverend Lovejoy (RIP), but won’t somebody please think of the children? Kids have to walk along 12th Ave S from North Beacon Hill to school at Bailey Gatzert. I’d love to see one of The Stranger’s staff take a stroll amidst Our Unhoused Neighbors and Uncaged Youth.
And also in thinking of the children: We’re not going to see any sensible action on vaccines until some kids die or end up debilitated by polio or some other what we used to call “dread disease”. Our species is incapable of learning our lessons without the infliction of pain, and then we have to re-learn them a few generations (or presidential administrations) later.
Happy Veteran’s Day!
Elise Fucking Stefanik?
‘Handjob’ Elise?! the
Clown Car must’ve
stopped by the
Nut House on
its way to the
Whitehouse
and it’s Just
Gonna get
Better!
“The [United Nations Human Rights Office] report said the data [70% of Palestinian Deaths’re Women and Children] indicates ‘an apparent indifference to the death of civilians and the impact of the means and methods of warfare.'”
it’s just what Happens
when your resident President
hands a genocidal Prime Minister
a Blanque Cheque, a Bear hug and “un-
wavering Support!” for bibi’s now-Genocide.
nothing we can
Do about it
now.
right?
@1. The Holocaust and slavery were legal too. Glad you found the provisions to remove all agency from the IDF as they commit mass genocide and starvation.
This world no longer values the lived of children who have been ‘othered.’ Gaza is just the beginning. We are cannibalizing our future and this planet to make imaginary fiat currency go up and so we can pollute the planet for eons for a moment’s comfort. PropagandaGPT has overcome common sense and our core humanity, mostly because of evil shitbags like the scum above.
https://youtu.be/nz20lu2AM2k?feature=shared
@6, Nothing we could do about it then. Either Hamas and Hezbollah can successfully stop attacks on themselves by attacking from behind women’s skirts or Israel has the U.N. Article 51 right to self-defense. It’s a binary choice.
If Stefanik goes to the U.N. then maybe her seat goes to the Dems in the special election. Republicans arranging their firing squad in a circle.
@6 Kristo I did a search for “handjob elise” and got quite a few results, but none looked like Rep Stefanik. Probably you were thinking of Lauren Boebert from Colorado.
@YeahMeToo — thanks!
I thought they were the
Same Person only with
Different Names. my
Bad! sorry, Handjob
Boebert! you’ll get
a good Job, Too!
eltrumpfster’s
ALL Over It.
(so what Happens
when The Donold
sexually harrasses
his Cabinet? do
they just ‘Relax
and Enjoy it’?
does the donold get
to beat his employees?
‘our’ USSC seems
to Think so).
Catalina @5, my outrage is over this aspect of the stabbings, as reported in the Seattle Times story: “During the suspect’s first appearance Saturday at the King County Jail, Senior Deputy Prosecutor Ian Michaels-Slettvet described the suspect’s criminal history as ‘extreme,’ with nine felony convictions in the past 10 years.”
It is beyond me how someone with nine felony convictions is still allowed to walk the streets. It is because of madness like this that we have Trump back. And yes, I realize Trump himself has 34 felony convictions.
Missing from most of the coverage of the Israeli football fans getting beaten up in Amsterdam is that the Israelis were chanting anti-Palestinian slogans (including celebrating that there are no more children left in Gaza) as they were out on the streets, not to mention vandalizing a taxi, setting off flares, and tearing down Palestinian flags.
While I don’t condone anyone getting beaten up, that makes it much more of a FAFO situation than has generally been presented in the media.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans
@13 — ‘our’ wholly-Corporate-Owned
news, mass media, & Anti-social websites all
parrot Israeli Propaganda reflexively, sans criticism
however!
is the “War”
nearly Over?!
nyt:
Netanyahu
Seeks to Delay
Testifying at His Corruption Trial
Benjamin Netanyahu,
the Israeli prime minister,
is on trial for bribery and fraud.
Now he wants to delay giving testimony.
A court in Jerusalem has been examining charges of bribery and fraud against Mr. Netanyahu, in a trial that began in 2020 and has been set to reach a crescendo this December with several sessions of testimony from the prime minister.
He denies the accusations, which center on claims that he used his influence to help leading businessmen in exchange for gifts and favorable media coverage.
On Sunday night, Mr. Netanyahu’s legal team filed a request with the court to delay his appearance by two and a half months, according to Amit Hadad, one of the prime minister’s lawyers.
The prime minister has been too consumed by running the country during wartime and needs more time to prepare his defense, Mr. Hadad said in a brief phone interview.
Critics countered that Mr. Netanyahu had an ulterior motive. The prime minister’s “only interest” is to “not to go to jail,” Yair Golan, an opposition leader, said in a radio interview. “Besides that, there is no other real consideration.”
–by Patrick Kingsley and Ronen Bergman
reporting from Jerusalem and Tel Aviv
Nov. 11, 2024
oodles:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/11/world/middleeast/netanyahu-corruption-trial-israel.html
sans bibi,
Who wants
a Genocide?
“Around 300 people gathered over the weekend at the Space Needle for a rally against Donald Trump’s re-election”
Actually these folks were equally pillorying Dems and Republicans – because to these progressives there is no difference between Trump and Harris (and to some degree, they view the BIPOC woman to be worse – see Sawant wanting her punished).
Unfortunately progressives can only be fixated on Gaza – to the degree that they’re willing to forgo critical thinking (latest example being the “Jew hunts” in Amsterdam – something Dutch politicians have rightly denounced, but that progressives don’t want to admit).
I also find it statistically odd that the vast majority of deaths in Gaza have been women and children – given the demographics would state that’s unlikely. But given Trump’s victory, it’s also immaterial as the last check on Bibi’s approach is gone – I’ll assume it’s only a matter of time for a complete transformation of Gaza (and not for the benefit of the Palestinians).
And I also find it telling that although it’s all Gaza all the time, there has been no mention that Qatar is getting ready to expel Hamas leadership due to their intransigence in ending the suffering in Gaza.
My hope is the left spends the next year figuring out how to reclaim the house (and based on exiting polling, it’s the economy stupid).
@13: “While I don’t condone anyone getting beaten up, that makes it much more of a FAFO situation than has generally been presented in the media.”
Is that a backhanded way to say that two wrongs do make a right?
@1 is not myopic but totally bind to the 1977 amendments of the Geneva convention which state that everything shall be done to spare the lives of civilians including preventing the use of disproportionate and indiscriminate attacks. Anyhow, the Gaza situation goes well beyond this since multiple reports by UN human rapporteurs state that Israeli attacks after OCt 7 were retaliatory and amounted to collective punishment of civilians in Gaza thus probable genocide.
Note that “NotMyopic” has been told a half dozen times already that Geneva convention documents and international human right law didn’t stop being written in 1948. His continual ignoring such fact can only be construed as purposeful dissemination of false propaganda.
@16 What part of “I don’t condone anyone getting beaten up” did you not understand?
It’s unsurprising when people get beaten up for provoking a crowd, particularly in the context of European football. That doesn’t make it right, but it’s unsurprising.
Just like it would be unsurprising and still not right for a Harris supporter heckling a Trump rally to get beaten up. If that happened, all sorts of the same people who have the vapors over the treatment of the Israeli fans would be asking what the Harris supporter thought would happen.
It’s a shame that the State appears to be reaching for a carceral solution to the individual stabbing 9 people in a 48-hour period; they should be working on the ROOT CAUSES of why a person might go on a stabbing spree, root causes such as “having a bad couple days” or “never learned that stabbing random bystanders is a maladaptive coping strategy” and the like.
@15 although it is probable that antisemitism motivated some violent demonstrators I haven’t seen any actual evidence of a “Jew hunt” (rather than a Macaibi supporter hunt) apart from the declarations of politicians who for the most part long lost all credibility on the topic of anti-Zionism versus antisemitism.
Interestingly there is actual evidence of anti-Arab racism from Israeli hooligans (see Guardian link posted by boatgeek above) but I haven’t seen any condemnation of that either, including from those eager to claim it was a “Jew hunt”.
@1 oh well if it was legal to kill all those women and children I guess it’s ok then. And shame on Hamas for not leaving a collateral-damage-proof buffer around all their members at all times in a region almost twice as densely populated as the City of Seattle.
@12 “It is beyond me how someone with nine felony convictions is still allowed to walk the streets. It is because of madness like this that we have Trump back.”
I tend to think it was because of the economy, immigration, and Kamala’s poor messaging but hey maybe some guy in Seattle with felony priors not having been put away for life was part too, you never know.
beware of one-trick troll @19 who believes that having one of the greatest incarceration rate on the planet is proof of success
@7, You say its wrong. By what standard? What is its source? Where is it codified? Who enforces it? By what means?
@15 “given Trump’s victory … the last check on Bibi’s approach is gone – I’ll assume it’s only a matter of time for a complete transformation of Gaza (and not for the benefit of the Palestinians)”
That’s cute you thought Biden was a check on Bibi. Since you apparently haven’t been paying attention Gaza’s “complete transformation” is well underway at the hands of the IDF, and certainly not to the benefit of Palestinians.
@19 ya why try to address root causes of crime so as to prevent crime when you can just wait for it to happen and people to be harmed then make a big show of being really mean to the guy who did it. There’s sure a lot more money in the latter.
@23. It’s called a conscience, numbnuts. Try to remember where you left yours before you subscribed to postmodern moral relativistic nihilism.
@21 “I tend to think it was because of the economy, immigration, and Kamala’s poor messaging”
You forgot to mention the right wing and news media focusing on every crime items and pretending there’s a surge in criminality while “forgetting” that most types of crime are the lowest in 40 years.
Sorry, that’s lawful postmodern moral relativist nihilism, shitferbrains.
@24 “ya why try to address root causes of crime so as to prevent crime”
You say this like its such a simple task. There is no society in all of history that has fully addressed the “root causes of crime”. What is the root cause of randomly stabbing 9 strangers on the street? poverty, racism, homelessness? Seriously this is where progressives lost the plot. Sometimes people do bad things and there is nothing we can do to prevent that and for that they need to be put somewhere where they are not able to do further bad things. It’s not that hard.
@28 we shouldn’t try to make positive change if it’s not “simple?”
@13, @14: The Amsterdam attacks appear to have been planned, specifically against “Jews,” at least one day before anyone headed to that soccer game:
‘Messaging app Telegram was used to talk about “going on Jew hunts,” Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said. “This is so shocking and despicable that I cannot get over it yet. It is a disgrace,” she said.
‘A screenshot of a pro-Palestinian WhatsApp group chat, viewed by the Journal, called for a “Jew Hunt” on Thursday and referred to a standoff on Wednesday night in which a group of Israeli fans were cornered by a crowd that police said included taxi drivers who had responded to an online call to mobilize.’
(https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/calls-for-jew-hunt-preceded-attacks-in-amsterdam-e3311e21)
@28 Short of completely addressing “all” root causes, not all societies have similar crime rates and more egalitarian societies tend to have lower crime rates:
Why do inequality and deprivation produce high crime and low trust?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-80897-8
” What is the root cause of randomly stabbing 9 strangers on the street?”
Mental illness is likely an important factor.
” Seriously this is where progressives lost the plot”
progressives didn’t de-fund public mental health. Conservatives de-funded public mental health along with other essential services that were designed to alleviate the consequences of economic inequality.
@17 Israel is not a signatory or a party to the 1977 Amendment to the Geneva convention that you cite. (India and Turkey also never signed it.)
Do you understand how international law actually works? (That’s a rhetorical question because you obviously don’t.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_I
Keep wasting your time citing international law… it’s a nice diversion… but it’s not going to accomplish anything. But, hey, maybe Trump will help you out since he’s supposedly the better of two evils for the lefties.
Nobody is walking into a court to litigate what’s going on in Gaza. Nobody is going to jail because of what’s going on in Gaza (and the lefties are against jail anyway… or maybe not now… who knows!)
@31 Lefties lost the plot by running around with their anti-jail, anti-prosecution rhetoric. And they certainly weren’t running around with solutions to the mental health and drug crisis hitting many major cities… well, at least not workable solutions since every option must be “voluntary” and we need to “meet people where they are”…. or some other bullshit lefty slogan.
Guy stabs nine people…. lefties: “But what’s the root cause???? Don’t be mean to the poor guy stabbing people because… something, something… capitalism!!!!”
~32 The Nazis didn’t ratify human rights laws treaties either and look at what happened at Nuremberg
“Keep wasting your time citing international law”
I am correcting TotallyBlind mistatements about international law, not exactly citing international law out of the blue
Whether or not indictments occur against the main perps is a matter of political will at The UN, balancing threats made against it by rogue states like Israel and the desire to sustain credibility in the international order so we’ll see …
@33 You sound like the troll @19. Is it you or is it that you all spew the same misdirection because you have no argument?
@29 of course we should try to make positive change but we shouldn’t ignore reality while we are doing it. The notion that people should be excused for their actions because “the root causes” of crime have not been addressed is enabling and discounts the impact of their actions on other innocent people. Progressives spend entirely too much time focused on the perpertrator while ignoring the impacts on the victims. There are millions of people every day that suffer from a myriad of issues that manage not to go around stabbing random people.
“progressives didn’t de-fund public mental health. Conservatives de-funded public mental health”
Mental health wasn’t defunded. Locking people away in mental institutions under horrible conditions was defunded and the ACLU had a large hand in that outcome. When people say things like that there seems to be this implication that mental health treatment was some panacea back in the 60/70s. It was not. It was largely inhumane and forced people to be locked away against their will. If you are advocating we go back to those times and begin institutionalizing people against that would be a radical departure from your typical posts.
@30 If you actually read the Guardian article I cited, you might have noticed that the call for taxi drivers to mobilize came /after/ the Israeli fans vandalized a taxi. Which, of course, happened the day before the football match, and may have been contemporaneous or earlier than the Telegram chats you mention.
I’d address the WSJ article more fully, but it’s paywalled so all I have is your description.
Neither party seems to have any solution other than unlimited money and weapons for Israel with no preconditions, so perhaps Trump can have a “Nixon in China” moment–the most unlikely seeming person able to broker better relations.
@38 Seems kinda unlikely since he and his progeny are thinking about how much Gaza could be like Monaco if they only got rid of the pesky occupants. Once a sociopathic property developer, always a sociopathic property developer.
Anti-Israel protestors: [Burn countless Israeli flags. Racist, violent chants in every city]
Israelis: Your language is hurtful. Please don’t talk that way.
…
Israelis: [Burn one Palestinian flag. Racist, violent chants in one city]
Anti-Israel protestors: Whaaaat!!! ok, motherfuckers, JEW HUNT!
Anti-Israel protestors: [chasing, beating, stabbing Israelis and non-Israeli Jews]
Progressives: My goodness, weren’t those Jews awful!
@37: So, it appears to have begun as classic European-style soccer hooliganism, and escalated from there. For everyone involved in the base hooliganism, I sincerely hope the authorities lavishly distribute fines, jail time, and “persona non grata” expulsions from country, as appropriate.
The proper response was to call the authorities, but instead it appears certain locals began organizing a “Jew hunt.” I don’t know about laws there, but in American terms, that’s a conspiracy to commit hate crimes. And that deserves a higher level of punishment.
Any holder of a Seattle Public Library card may read the WSJ on-line:
“Access The Wall Street Journal from anywhere! Simply click here to create your account and start using wsj.com immediately. Access continues for 3 days. After 3 days, simply come back and click the above link again and login as an existing user with the same username and password. Web access only, not available on the WSJ app.” (https://www.spl.org/search?terms=Wall+Street+Journal)
It all comes down to the Golden Rule, which is a key component of most Abrahamic religions. Ask yourself if you would accept the kind of treatment you legislate for others for yourselves and your own children and families. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you are okay with the status quo, don’t be surprised when the bottom falls out the day you reap what you sow.
@36 Nobody claimed that public mental health was a panacea in the 70’s but fueled by the civil rights movement, the Carter commission on mental Health recommended replacing large public mental institutions by a network of federally funded community mental health clinics. Reagan got elected, started dismantling large public mental health institutions and never funded mental health clinics. Bush the 1st did the very same thing. The homeless population started to skyrocket at about the same time as well. Conservatives de-funded public mental health.
@17, Those amendemnts were additoonal protocols, not repeals or superceding of prior language.
Note no charges have been brought at the IJC alleging war crimes for the IDF attacks. Why is that? I.e. Attack on date by the IDF violated _ clause of treaty adopted in _.
Reading the language as you do (where no language prior to 1977 remains in force) would void Aticle 51 of the U.N. Charter by allowiing an attacker to strike from the shelter of human shields where it isn’t possible to counterattack in self-defense because casualties would be disproportionate. Are you suggesting that attacking from amongst enough non-combatants voids Article 51 of the U.N Charter?
@36 “The notion that people should be excused for their actions because “the root causes” of crime have not been addressed is enabling and discounts the impact of their actions on other innocent people”
Wow you sure made quick work of that strawman way to go. Back in the real world we’re advocating for increased investment in mental health care to help avoid people decompensating to the point they go on a stabbing spree.
@44: Watching Averagebob and Notmyopic argue international law is like watching two chimpanzees argue which one should get to fly the helicopter. 😃
Rhetorical goons like thumpus always find it easier to hurl ad-hominems than provide logical arguments
For those unable to figure out how to navigate a paywall, here’s coverage from the BBC re the attacks in Amsterdam
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo
“I am deeply ashamed of the behaviour that unfolded,” Halsema told reporters. “On Telegram [messaging] groups people talked of going to hunt down Jews. It’s so terrible I can’t find the words for it.” (that’s Mayor Femke Halsema – so maybe, just maybe, she’s a little more aware of the events in her city).
@47: More like ad hominid! 😂😂😂
@25, So if. A’s conscience says one thing is OK, B’s says its not, C’s says something different than A or B, which is binding.
So the result of its never being OK to have collateral damage is to eliminate the right to self-defense. The agressor just has to attack from between enough civilians, fortify enough hospitals, etc. to have impunity from counterattack. You have just made being the agressor without consequence. You think we will have more or fewer agressors in that world?
@43 and since that time we’ve also had 8 years of Clinton (presiding over what was probably the best era of growth and prosperity in this country), 8 years of Obama and 4 years of Biden not to mention there are solidly blue states like CA, IL, NY and even here in WA. So why haven’t any of these community centers been set up? Here in WA we had Western State lose their federal funding due to chronic mismanagement by the state
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/western-state-hospital-loses-federal-funding-after-failing-inspection/
Is that Repbulican’s fault as well? Not to mention one of the outcomes of the Carter decision is you can’t force people into care so even if you were to build all these centers how do you compel people to go get care?
@45 Congratulations on your piety and moral righteousness. Clearly you have the moral high ground and no one can debate your altruistic intentions. The only gap in your plan is what do we do with the guy you stabbed nine people randomly or the kids that went on a high speed joy ride in a stolen car and killed three homeless people while we are waiting on your investments to come to fruition?
@43 Didn’t deinstitutionalization begin well prior to Carter? I thought it began as far back as Johnson. Like, wasn’t “One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest” a kind of lib sentiment, not Goldwater agit prop. Didn’t the number of folks living in mental facilities have its sharpest decline prior to Reagan swearing in?
@52 under Kennedy, but Reagan killed the (already insufficient) funding for community treatment centers. Here’s a good brief history:
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/50-years-later-kennedyrsquos-vision-for-mental-health-not-realized/
And Trump has selected a major pro-Israel hawk as his NSA. We’ll be lucky at this point if Gaza isn’t completely resettled.
as we treat Palestinians
eltrumpfester’ll treat ‘the
least’ of Us & plenty soon
enough there’ll be millions
or Tens of millions more tos-
sed upon Ameria’s rubbish piles
will you still be cheering
him on from the
rubbish pile?
@55: “will you still be cheering
him on from the
rubbish pile?”
What would Sawant do?
@56
well why dontchya
Tell us wormmy:
what Would
Sawant*
do?
we’re
all Dying
to hear the
sociopathic pov
*your
Fixation’s
becoming
pathological
at least you’ve
got your little
ChatterboX
@57: Ok, given Sawant wanted Trump elected, and she loves having people cheer at her command, I’d say Sawant’s answer to your question, “will you still be cheering
him on from the
rubbish pile?” would be a resounding “Yes!”
You’re welcome.
oh wormmy
your ‘sense’ of
humors is sorely lacking
but there’s
More Good News!
even your Championing
of bibi’s little Massacre and
helping Elect tfg tNg djf’t may have
its Silver Lining.
from prolly my Fave
NPR show & host:
From high tariffs to isolation,
what a 2nd Trump term
might mean for
foreign policy
Heard on Fresh Air
–by Dave Davies
November 13, 2024
With wars raging around the world and high tariffs looming, Economist editor-in-chief Zanny Minton Beddoes says Trump’s agenda may be chaotic — but she remains optimistic about possible good elements.
44-Minute Listen
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/13/g-s1-34010/from-high-tariffs-to-isolation-what-a-2nd-trump-term-might-mean-for-foreign-policy
mofo! there May just be some
Good to come outta a
thousand-yr Eltrump-
fster Dynasty. there’s
Plenty of Wrongs to
be Righted – if we
could Distract el-
trumpfster like
ol’ wormmy
distracts
Schlogg
make tfg tng him Focus
on the shite Dems’re
Too Timid to Do
but’re Right
There ripe
for the
Fixin’.
good show.
@59: “…helping Elect tfg tNg djf’t…”
That was Sawant, dear. Please do try to keep up.