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Jun 17, 2010 at 4:00 am
An Early Morning Chat with Bill Cosby While He Takes a Break from Writing a Eulogy for His High-School Basketball Coach
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What the hell is The Stranger thinking letting you publish things? Are you the nephew of someone important?
Either way, pull your head out of your ass. What you're writing isn't funny, isn't talented or clever, and is disrespectful to the subjects. It also isn't journalism. At all.
I appreciate you writing in your own voice, but it's kinda not someone I'd wanna listen to. Like most of Vice magazine, nasty for nasty's sake.
And I must say the Coleman piece was just as flippant to the subject, perhaps even more so.
In light of the fact that he had just died, IMO doesn't speak highly of you.
I don't know you Adrian, but I hope you're a kinder person than these pieces indicate, and that that kindness would come across more often in your future work.
Also, while you're dragging the "off my lawn" cliche' around, why don't you call him a "douche" and ask, "WTF"? Then you could really look cool. People might LOL!
No, he's the boyfriend/fuckbuddy/houseslave of somebody I'm sure. That's how you get and keep a job at this rag.
But you are obviously still reading it, jackass.
If you don't like Adrian Ryan's writing style, don't read Adrian Ryan's articles. No one is forcing you. I'm sorry if your self-righteousness stunts your sense of humor.
But you are obviously still reading it, jackass.
Yeah, but not every week. And then only to see what's playing; like I said.
If you don't like Adrian Ryan's writing style, don't read Adrian Ryan's articles. No one is forcing you. I'm sorry if your self-righteousness stunts your sense of humor.
I don't, and I don't. Google the term "self-righteousness", since you skipped class at SCCC they day they covered it, and get back to me and tell me where I exhibited it. And if anyone has a stunted sense of humor, it's Ryan and you, who have a high-school hipster sense of humor that most of us have outgrown.
The first part of my comment was in direct response to your posting, but not the second. That was intended as a general response to the hate.
And of course I go to community college! What else could explain how someone could disagree with you and/or anyone else that trashes The Stranger!
I say make fun of Bill Cosby and anyone else, Adrian Ryan. Make fun of me. No one and nothing is sacred because the whole world and everything in it is so fucked that the only sane response is to laugh at it.
Stop being so fucking pious, or go read the Weekly.
adrian was respectfully irreverent. adrian it's a lovely human piece and you keep doing what you do well. my friend john uses this quote every day and i think it applies here...
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to
please everybody.
Bill Cosby
Why did this man who once seemed so affable go quietly off the rails? What changed? Was he always a dick and just got tired of pretending he wasn't? You didn't even try a little race-baiting.
The real achievement is that you've managed to become formulaic in just two contributions, and yet the Stranger decides to run turd dieux anyway!
I can't wait to see you stick it to Arthur Ash.
Could you interview Stuttering John Melendez? I haven't heard much from him lately.
Thanks!
Ba-ba-booey
It's the fucking Stranger people, get a life! If you want false respect or hero worship go watch Fox News and talk to your buddy Glenn Beck.
Probably no college whatsoever.
exactly. Lindy West = funny, clever, insightful, with actual writing talent. She's deeply cynical, sarcastic, caustic, even offensive at times, but she's obviously intelligent, puts effort and thought into her pieces, and makes them work.
My problem is with this being offensive and disrespectful (which it is - Cosby's in his seventies and is owed some common courtesy) and even more about it being poorly written, self-congratulating garbage.
Kudos SIR!
Cosby is KNOWN for calling out comedians that he doesn't agree with! You obviously don't know much about what you're talking about. Eddie Murphy himself does and entire piece about Bill Cosby calling him up to tell him not to curse. If you don't know that, you don't know much about comedy. I also remember Cosby being in the audience at an event that Wanda Sikes was hosting and REFUSING flat-out to even acknowledge her. If Cosby had read this SLOG post, he would have torn into Adrian. This post is self-serving and VERY disrespectful. It's sad that you can really SEE the quality of the writing at The Stranger going downhill all the time.
To everyone else, stop biting and enjoy the article, it's the Stranger. If you wish to have critical review read a newspaper.
Yes! Some of these people are right. The article is written by you and about you. It is remarkably snarky, disrespectful, selfish and all the while absolutely readable. Those paragraphs wouldn't let me go! Perhaps sharing traits with many rap songs? "ME. ME. ME." That's all they yap about! Yet so good to listen to.
Consider it! <<< MR. RY-YAN "Get off my lawn!" (feat. MR. COZ-BAY)>>>
Understand, son?
Yeah We all soooo hate on the writings of many Stranger wordsmiths yet we always come back for more. What the fuck else will we read as a weekly? The less colorful (perhaps beige) "other" rag? DON'T THINK SO.
Do us a favor, tone down the carbs and pump up the meat, we are attempting sustainable content for our reading pleasure.
Ultimately, with out us readers, you don't have a job! Maybe if that day arrives you can take up rhyming lessons and put out an album.
It could be called....
RESPECTING DISRESPECT.
Maybe the article should include a large photograph of Adrian Ryan rather than our fellow MR. COSBY.
Yes! Some of these people are right. The article is written by you and about you. It is remarkably snarky, disrespectful, selfish and all the while absolutely readable. Those paragraphs wouldn't let me go! Perhaps sharing traits with many rap songs? "ME. ME. ME." That's all they yap about! Yet so good to listen to.
Consider it! <<< MR. RY-YAN "Get off my lawn!" (feat. MR. COZ-BAY)>>>
Understand, son?
Yeah We all soooo hate on the writings of many Stranger wordsmiths yet we always come back for more. What the fuck else will we read as a weekly? The less colorful (perhaps beige) "other" rag? DON'T THINK SO.
Do us a favor, tone down the carbs and pump up the meat, we are attempting sustainable content for our reading pleasure.
Ultimately, with out us readers, you don't have a job! Maybe if that day arrives you can take up rhyming lessons and put out an album.
It could be called....
RESPECTING DISRESPECT.
weatherboy
don't be such a simpleton.
didn't i mention that cosby never curses ? because he doesn't like it doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate another comedians craft. there's a difference between being called out and being disrespected..and cosby is almost always respectful. who knows what his deal about wanda sykes was - he's also a human being ..most of us dislike other human beings from time to time. as an elder statesman (and he takes being an elder statesman very serious, as well he should ) most comedians ( particularly african american comedians, including murphy ) hold him with the highest regard. as this rag later reports,it seems that cosby enjoyed his conversation with adrian http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…
and probably would enjoy this piece. he understands irreverence even as you do not.
if you think that ANYONE would "respect" this article if it was written about THEM, then you're the simpleton. AND, how do you think that calling people out ISN'T pointing out how someone does NOT respect what the other is doing? he doesn't like comedians who are crass just to be crass. that's why he gets along with some of the greats of our time, because THEY have substance to their comedy. your logic makes NO sense.
i KNOW that Cosby said that he enjoyed the interview, but he probably didn't READ what Adrian wrote about him. IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL. if you don't get that, you never will. Cosby would probably have not liked what Adrian wrote about him, just like MOST PEOPLE wouldn't like it. but, your snarky name-calling (that, yes, even i stooped to just now) doesn't give you the high ground, it just makes you look like a condescending jerk. if you can't see that this piece was mostly about the author and how he likes to talk about himself and his views on a "codger" comic legend, and that it was a wasted opportunity to report on an interview with a comic legend, then we can agree to disagree.
@48, sorry.
The other thing that bothered me about this article was the ridiculous amount of exclamation points it contained. And all-caps words. When you find yourself resorting to such cheap theatrics as a journalist (even one working for the Stranger), it's time to re-evaluate. And shame on the editor who green-lighted this pig. Where are your standards?
So, I have revisited the article and comments on Bill Cosby. Many of you are still going on about how 'Adrian Ryan did this wrong...' and 'Adrian Ryan is ineffectual...'
Have any of you seen the other interview of Mr. Cosby while in Seattle? At the news station?
http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-061810-b…
This article perfectly highlights how sporadic Bill Cosby is with his interviews; the interviewers themselves simply shut up and allow him to talk.
Before you judge Mr. Ryan on what has been printed, from the 1990's forward you may want to view some other material on Cosby and how he is with journalists. Also, from reading some of the comments many of you sound like fanatics! Step back, rethink your strategy, do some research and please respond with interesting conversation. I can do without the acidic piss dripping from your mouth. Better yet, all of us can.
It's Adrian. It's not a journalistic salvo toward Great Writing, it's a fan's perspective on talking to Mr. Bill Cosby.
As someone who's seen Cosby on stage numerous times and grew up with his comedy records and all the TV things Adrian mentioned, I'm not offended in the least EXCEPT for the "Mr. Coz-bay". Don't like that. But that's me.
Otherwise: This is The Stranger, where objectivity and fair-play died with Cobain on a wagon train from the East Coast on its way to Seattle.
I read it for the Gays; Schmader, Ryan, and Savage, in that order. but that's me.
Meh. You trolls get off my lawn.