The biggest Vietnamese restaurant outside of Saigon is located on Lake Washington, by way of Gene Coulon Memorial Beach Park. It’s Anchovies and Salt, a stunning ode to Vietnam with the menu to match. But despite an honorable effort to redefine a cuisine often reduced to “cheap eats,” this restaurant has been an underdog from the jump.
It all started, as it often does, with one fateful TikTok made by an out-of-town visitor. The TLDR of her 30-second take was that Anchovies and Salt, while beautiful, was overpriced and portion-stingy. The effect of her take was decidedly massive—hundreds of thousands of views and a mob of commenters amassed within days. Anchovies and Salt hasn’t been able to shake the “expensive” vibes off since.
But should they?
Let’s have a conversation about Asian spots seeking to elevate Asian culture, and our role in letting them, or not.
A Cheap History of Double Standards
Picture this: You’re at a neighborhood Italian joint, so dimly lit you feel like you’re in Hollister. The waiter sets down a plate of fresh pappardelle smothered in a rich duck ragu. The dish is $34 (plus a 22% service charge). You don’t even blink. Chef gets a handshake, restaurant gets a Story post: “Gatekeeping this 😏”
Now imagine you’re at a Vietnamese restaurant, the new one on the block, and as you scan the menu, you find your favorite combination is available for—spit take—20 US fucking dollars? The server brings out a fragrant, steaming bowl of pho… and while delicious, you feel dismayed. You open Yelp, Twitter fingers ready to let loose. “What a rip-off.”
Cheap wasn’t the origin story of these cuisines, generally, but it is their origin story in the US. Some might be surprised to learn the depth of which premium seafood is used in Vietnamese dishes, or the deft techniques used to make the most famous mainland Chinese cuisine. Asian immigrants brought these traditions with them to America, quite literally with their families on their backs, trying to figure out how to feed half a dozen heads with just as many dollars and zero prospects for more.
In that way, the means was the end: Feeding people. But how do you introduce a brand new cuisine to a culture that doesn’t know it yet? You sell it cheap—curiosity comes faster at $5 a plate.
What started as a necessity became an expectation. For Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, and other immigrants, “cheap eats” became a defining label, and the fight for the bottom rung of the culinary ladder dragged racial stereotypes along with it.
All of this has made its mark on Asian food’s legitimacy in American culture. And while this struggle isn’t unique to Asian food (Italian and Mexican cuisines faced similar origins), those cuisines were eventually allowed to grow, to become aspirational. Today, we celebrate $30 pasta and $20 taco plates. When will we lend Asian food the same credence?
Getting What We Pay For
Anchovies and Salt owner Quyen Phan knows this reality all too well. “Twenty years ago I thought Seattle was behind. Twenty years later, we are so much more behind than I initially thought.” He’s talking about the readiness to accept new concepts in the Asian food scene, an angle he’s been sizing up since 2012 when he opened his first restaurant Saigon Sunset, followed by the first Vinason Pho Kitchen. Now, with Anchovies and Salt, he’s forced to wonder if he’s pushed a little too far.
“We’re so used to paying a certain price point that we can’t open up our menus to show people what we really eat in Vietnam,” says Phan, while we sip water overlooking Lake Washington outside his restaurant. “I wanted to build something that would make Vietnamese Americans proud, and show Americans what Vietnamese culture has to offer them.”
Phan has built an extraordinary ode to his home country. Towering teak doors inspired by Southeast Asia welcome you in. Each wing of the restaurant reflects a different region of Vietnam, complete with curated drinks and a cornucopia of condiments—three different shrimp pastes, eight different fish sauces. The menu boasts premium ingredients, including geoduck (the coconut butter geoduck is ethereal) and wagyu beef, starring in their $24 pho. Even the rice is top shelf: Phan served me award-winning ST25 Vietnamese rice with the excitement of a dad introducing his kid to his favorite band. He wasn’t wrong—the rice is as good as everything else.

So what’s the rub? Back to the TikTok, which leveled claims concerning price and portions despite the grandeur. These are metas Anchovies and Salt cannot escape, and the battle to be understood and accepted in the community is still uphill.
So I finally asked Phan: “Why is Anchovies and Salt so expensive?”
“I hate that people feel that way. It’s not about charging people more… it’s about giving everyone the most. The only way to do that is to start opening up the menu and leading by example.” He balances pride and frustration in his face before he continues. “For instance, we eat an abundance of seafood in Vietnam, and all Americans know is grilled pork banh mi and pork spring rolls. We’re stuck at the $5 price point burned into people’s minds, and it’s holding us all back.”
In Seattle, a popular congee shop knows this story well. When Akavin Lertsirisin (AKA “Boss”) and his brother Jakkapat (“JP”) opened their first congee concept in 2017 (Congeez), they wanted to highlight what Boss calls “family food” in Thailand, a meal commonly shared before school, work, or trips—familiar flavors for the value. Today, the shop has evolved into the Instagram-darling, Secret Congee, which conversely offers remixed renditions of porridge for a premium price, including grade-A seafood that can run up to $25 a bowl.
“After serving congee for five years, we felt we could show everyone, Thai people included, how beautiful even our simplest foods can be,” says Boss.
For the brothers, reimagining congee with the most premium ingredients available was not only a business decision, it was an opportunity to push forward a cuisine calcified into the core memories of them and their customers. The Thai congee of their childhood was typically served with pork meatballs, liver, and egg. At Secret Congee, you can get a heaping bowl with wild-caught halibut, Hokkaido scallop, or lump blue crab, so it’s a flex too. Boss reminds me that restaurants across the city charge $40 for two crab cakes, while Secret Congee’s blue crab congee boasts three times the amount at only $23.
Cracking the Code
Not every new-age Asian spot in the city has had the same “luck” as Anchovies and Salt. One Asian American chef-owner who has seemingly cracked the code is Melissa Miranda of Musang and Kilig notoriety. The James Beard semifinalist has worked tirelessly to reshape the narrative of Filipino cuisine in America, a reintroduction perhaps. With a vision to bring to life an enduring example of her family’s cooking, Miranda’s fresh take on Filipino classics has amplified and fortified Filipino culture in America. They serve familiar favorites while challenging us to see them anew.
It’s at Musang where you’ll order a serving of chicken adobo for $34, not including rice, a price that has bewildered old-school Filipinos since their doors first opened in 2020. Musang’s rendition includes modernized ingredients—roasted garlic, coconut milk tamari, brown butter, and black pepper poivre—but these skeptics have been making adobo for decades, and as such have hardened opinions about how it should be cooked, how it should taste, and more relevantly, how it should be priced. This includes my own mother, a proud Pinay who started out Musang-skeptical. But just like every diner before her, one night at Musang rejigs your paradigm of what a Filipino meal can be while reminding you what you have loved about it all along. Mission accomplished, Musang.

So what about Musang earns respect, where Anchovies and Salt does not? The answer is community buy-in.
For Musang, the proof is in the proverbial ginataang pudding. Supporting Musang feels like a community-aligned initiative to have a great meal and move the culture ahead while doing so. To that end, almost poetically, Musang was incepted by a Kickstarter. But Musang appears to be the exception, not the rule. We denigrate Anchovies and Salt and Secret Congee for some of the same things we celebrate Musang for, and it’s not entirely the fault of the shops. In fact, I think it’s largely ours as patrons.
Let’s Talk About Us for a Second
Asian Americans often claim to want representation, but we balk at the idea of “elevated Asian cuisine.” It’s worth asking: Is there an internalized shame that keeps us from supporting our own cuisines? Are we scared to pay more because we don’t think we deserve it?
If you ask Boss, he’ll tell you that Thai people are well aware that there are different levels to congee. The poor family knew they weren’t eating the same bowls as royalty. And as is human nature, folks who were eating something fancier than the average were either admired or hated. And maybe the same thing exists here today. Looking at how we treat ambitious concepts, it feels like we’ve internalized a sort of caste mindset where we think we only deserve what we deserve and where ambition is frowned upon.

Maybe you’re thinking, “It’s not that deep bro. I just don’t wanna pay $20 for pho.” Fair enough, but elevation aside, have we considered that our local mom-and-pop shop is barely making ends meet selling their food for anything less? Do we think the broth magically simmers itself overnight, and the ingredients assemble themselves from some celestial pantry? (The same ingredients that now cost +40% since last new year?) Voodoo Donuts’ recent usurping of real estate previously occupied by Asian businesses (including a pho shop) make these questions even more important to think about. Locally owned noodles making way for “elevated” donuts is the manifest destiny of a city that follows hype more than culture.
Let Asian Food Be Great—At Any Cost
This is a call to action to think deeper about how we support new businesses. Every time we dismiss spots like Anchovies and Salt, we reinforce a mindset that keeps Asian food and culture stuck in the “cheap” box, and every failed concept is another nail in the lid.
I’m not asking you to blindly love every “elevated” concept, nor calling for Asian restaurants to raise prices without reason. Instead, I’m curious about what makes us comfortable spending up for pasta or pastrami but not for rice or banh mi. What’s stopping us from building an environment where chefs like Phan, Lertsirisin, and Miranda can thrive? They’re not just selling food; they’re keeping stories alive.
That’s worth some extra bucks to me.
Thanks for reading,
Michael Wong

Places like Monsoon have been doing elevated Vietnamese food for a quarter century – Tamarind Tree for 20 years. I dislike the narrative that just because one place isn’t having the success they hoped for that we have some systemic problem. There is plenty of upscale Asian dining in the Seattle area that is wildly successful and subsequently wildly successful (and will happily do plenty of damage to your wallet)
This is absolutely changing – see Ken Lin Thai in Fremont or Om Lang Bistro in Roosevelt. Dishes are approaching if not exceeding $20/plate, and seats are hard to find! But…serving the same old pot of soup on the same old glass topped furniture/faded dishware for the last 30 years doesn’t cut it. Ambiance is everything when it comes to dining out.
“The dish is $34 (plus a 22% service charge). You don’t even blink.”
Are you kidding? I wouldn’t pay half that for a plate of pasta. You’re really grasping at straw(men) looking for racism where none exists.
@1 also Stateside, which is amazing and well worth the price. People who don’t want to pay $20 for pho probably also don’t want to pay $20 for a burger.
Anyone who thinks there isn’t cheap, filling, Italian-based food needs to learn about this thing they call, “pizza.”
You can pay $50 for a small pizza if you want. You can pay less than $20 for one so large, there’s a song lyric based upon it. (Racism has nothing to do with it, although even Anglos eventually had to admit those garlic-eaters were onto something.) There’s Italian-based restaurants at all levels because there’s ethnic-themed restaurants at all levels. As commenters here have noted, those include some high-end Vietnamese places in Seattle.
Asian restaurants may suffer from imagined association with Chinese restaurants. Wherever you go in the world, there will be a Chinese restaurant, and the food will be exactly like the food from the Chinese restaurant wherever you live. (It’s like McDonald’s, but with rice, and without the corporate overhead.) That experience may initially inform a response to “Asian” food, but as the article notes, “Asian” means everything from at least as far as from Vietnam to the Philippines, and that’s a lot of very different foods. Patrons will eventually come around, or enough of them will, anyway.
Nice in-depth reviews of some great restaurants, though. Thanks for the article!
For me it’s not about racism, it’s about affordability and value. I used to enjoy going out to eat almost every day, but on a fixed income and with inflation and seattle’s unfriendly to business attitude I’ve had to cut back. If you are able to go outside of seattle there are lots of good eats at resonable prices (better yet, get out of King county). And no, I won’t pay $20 for a plate of spagetti or a hamburger either!
All those times I ate at Monsoon must have been my imagination.
Seattle has priced itself out of the dining out market for me (not just asian). there will always be a (small) market for upscale food of any type, just not enough to support a large number of nich establishments. perhaps the era of the middle class being able to afford to dine out regularly is over?
Tell me you make a lot more than I do, enough to spend $20+ on a meal, without telling me…………
Seattle is increasingly becoming a theme park for “foodies” and other buyers of luxe goods. Not to sound like one of those Vanishing Seattle bores but there does seem to be more and more chasing the big spenders with high margin goods than offering value for people who aren’t counting down the days til their options vest or their tenants pay off the mortgage on their rentals.
My wife and I were fortunate to discover Vivienne’s Bistro II after a matinee at 5th Avenue. We admired the decor and also noticed that there were many Asian customers. (The setups come with interesting metal chop sticks.)
We had no idea about the cuisine but the service and decor were remarked on as outstanding. Preparing to leave, I asked our server whether the meal was Vietnamese and I was correct to learn that it is Chinese, but not what we have come to accept as a historical Chinese restaurant and menu. We were happy to learn better.
Was sushi ever cheap?
Have you been to Nobu?
@8, your claim about noping out from the Seattle dining scene taken with your moniker is not so convincing.
The Stranger should investigate further into Seattle cheap eats.
I think if you were to average out menus Mexican food is still far cheaper than Asian restaurants and no one is paying $34 plus 22% for pasta unless it has a high cost protein in it.
Hannah Wong.
Don’t tell me why I’m wrong, tell me what you like.
@3
Spot on.
I was saying to my wife just the other day that I wish going out to dinner was more expensive.
Sorry, but this is a load of idiot catchphrases strung together by someone who figured that if something sounded “SJW-ish” it had to be right, and they didn’t need to spend any time actually fact-checking. So. For the record.
We’ve had fancy Asian food here for the better part of a century. I know 70-year-old guys who reminisce fondly about saving up to take their high school sweethearts out to a good fancy chinese place.
We have tons of fancy asian food now. It’s everywhere. In fact, most our internationally respected restaurants are Asian places like Wild Ginger and Kashiba.
We have tons of expensive Vietnamese places. It takes about 30 seconds to go to google or tripadvisor and get a list of them. There’s some very nice ones there. They just don’t specialize in Pho, because…
Pho isn’t supposed to be fancy! It’s street food meant for laborers! If this author had taken 5 minutes off regurgitating tired cliches to click a wikipedia page, he’d have known that. Making pho fancy is taking the piss! It’s the American cuisine equivalent of a $50 New York style hotdog, or that $700 “Gold Standard Burger” from DBG.
People here will pay good money for, say, a nice vietnamese roasted duck, but we actually know our Asian food well enough to tell the difference between the high end cuisine, and someone who’s peeing on our leg and telling us it’s raining, trying to make us buy “elevated” street food just because they slapped an ethnic label on it. Sorry, no. Not for my hotdogs, and not for my pho. Not for my shwarma either, while we’re at it.
@18 – Bravo. Thank you for taking the time to express what I was too lazy to do. Agree with you 100%.
I guess Asian food no longer includes Japanese which in most places is incredibly expensive. And maybe if The Stranger’s food critics weren’t on expense accounts, they would realize that most of their readers can’t afford to spend $60+ on a meal. Value and affordability are my watch words. I would rather eat out more often than less because that’s how I get to spend time with friends and support more restaurants. But I can’t do that paying the prices The Stranger suggests. So I don’t go to high end Asian restuarants where streeet food is dressed up as haute cuisine and charged for accordingly. I can’t afford to.
Anchovies and Salt is in RENTON, between that park and the Boeing Plant, at the end of a dead-end street next to the Hyatt. Seattle barely knows it exists.
Put that same menu in Fremont or Ballard or LQA or Capitol Hill, and it would be “celebrated” like a $30 bowl of pasta.
Two hours and I’ll just have to eat again.
Hasn’t the author heard of Wild Ginger? Expensive and very good Asian food. Mashiko in West Seattle is great sushi, and not cheap. It’s not unusual for me to spend up to $75pp for Korean BBQ. My favorite Pho in Seattle is $25 at Miss Pho, but I’m not willing to pay even close to that for an average bowl of pho.
The problem is that there are so many good, family owned and operated restaurants in various Asian cuisines here in Seattle. Why should I go to Anchovies and Salt when I can find just as good food closer to home for less?
I don’t remember the last time I paid less than $20 to eat a full meal out at a sit down restaurant of any kind in Seattle… even Mcdonalds is like $15.
Also, the entire point of pho is that it’s a cheap filling meal. I also don’t want to pay super high prices for teriyaki or burritos. I’ll happily pay high prices for other asian food though. Wild Ginger has been charging 20+ for most of their entrees for as long as I can remember.. so your entire thesis here also makes zero sense.