Abortion provider George Tiller has barely been dead two days, and those fucking worthless bottom-feeders at PETA are already using his death in an ad campaign:
Get it? Because in PETA members’ tiny brains, EATING MEAT IS MORALLY EQUIVALENT TO MURDERING A HUMAN BEING IN COLD BLOOD. And, hey, everybody’s talking about that abortion guy, so why not use his death as a nifty tie-in for our anti-meat propaganda?
These ads are running, by the way, in Wichita, where Tiller’s many friends and family members are still grieving his death.
God, I wish there was some way to give an anti-donation to those fuckers. Maybe I’ll just go buy some foie gras instead.
Via Feministe; cross-posted.
Hey 44 – You realize, I hope, that meat-eaters are also the #1 cause of you (and everybody else on the planet) being alive today? That vegetarianism goes against millions of years of evolution? That we evolved BECAUSE we ate meat, and were therefore faster, stronger, and smarter than our puny-armed vegetarian cousins who died out?
Check out the teeth in your mouth sometime… You’ll notice that you have BOTH incisors (flesh-rending) and molars (flat, grain-grinding)?? Because you, as a human being, are supposed to be an omnivore!
How about saying a prayer of thanks tonight to your legions of animal-killing, flesh-eating ancestors, without whom you would not be breathing air today with which to lecture the rest of us on your supposed moral superiority?
@44, ewwica and buffoony jean and dumb-inic will all clearly tell you that meat-eating has nothing to do with any of those problems, and that only the issues that they care about matter. end of story, that’s all she wrote, good night. buffoony and dumb-inic want to starfuck that rotting corpse on tv anthony bourdain, which ‘splains their valliant defense of meat production and consumption (buh-buh-but, it’s a small farm! in france! the geese love being force fed!. anthony bourdain said so!) ewwica, well, she just has too much grit in her yoo-hoo left over from the winter when the city couldn’t sale the roads, and had to use sand instead. so don’t wait for any of them to come to terms with reality any time soon.
Oh, Michael on the Green enlightens us again! Please comment again soon, MotG. It’s just so EXCITING.
@43, there is no “if”.
ECB is a thief. And a profligate. The only person she should ever lecture about morality is herself.
And, oh yeah — FUCK PETA.
Groundhog, @21, I think you might be on to something. And it really is heartbreaking, because PETA does indeed have a point: animals SHOULD be treated ethically, no question about it. ALL animals: pets, wildlife, food animals, research animals, zoo animals, etc etc… ALL animals have the right to live their lives without pain or suffering. PETA has a great fucking point, they’re just so screwed up that they can’t get that point across, at all.
Oh merry, you’re so awesome.
I’ll take moral superiority based on facts over half-baked anthropology in defense of environmental destruction and unnecessary suffering any day. The latter is worse, trust me — course I’m sure you don’t.
So tomorrow you’ll go work your everyday job at one of our friendly industrial meat production facilities — with the pride and certainty of insuring our collective survival, right? Course you and Erica undoubtedly need foie gras to survive, too — our incisors most assuredly were designed especially for liver pate.
Always nice to see Lizzie the fucktard weigh in.
@47
From now on you will be known as COMTE CUNTIE
COMTE the CUNT
COMTE the CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNTIE
Thank for the complements, COMTE CUNTIE. I love being called cute!!!!!!!!!!!! (giggles!)
Love you, Dradmad (J). Nice nose, BTW.
GODDAMN IT PETA!!!
Quote from article: “If our billboards leave a bad taste in anyone’s mouth, we just think they might give a thought to what animals feel when they go to the slaughterhouse,” she said.
I already AM a fucking vegetarian and their ad leaves a “bad taste” in my mouth, and the cannibal ad they did in Canada, absolutely reprehensible. I happen to agree that animals suffer a bad death in most cases in the industry but can we please have a new animal-rights, veggie-promoting organization that doesn’t take advantage of the suffering of specific individuals. They sabotage their own mission and create bad veggie-PR havoc that us reasonably sane veg-heads have to deal with whenever someone rolls their eyes at us for not eating meat. Damn. Fuck. Hell.
Remember: it’s okay to benefit from death as long as you aren’t the one doing the killing. Unless you’re PETA.
EBC’s outrage is so similar to the religious right which she so abhors. It’s sad.
Zack de la Rocha said “Your anger is a gift”, but please use it wisely.
Holy fuck. PETA is their own worst enemy.
By any rational standards, convincing people to eat less meat is a worthy cause for all kinds of reasons. But everything they do seems to sabotage their cause and drive average people away. So completely inept and blind.
Clearly they are soul-mates to Critical Mass.
Even when I was a vegan I hated these worthless assholes. It was a constant battle to disassociate myself from their varying campaigns.
And also, it’s okay to steal wine from the grocery store if you’re a self-aggrandizing pompous bitch with a dirty mouth.
Not a PETA supporter here. But still, two points:
1) Fuck you, Erica.
2) Saying that the same principles that make killing humans wrong also make killing animals wrong, does not equal saying that killing a human is equivalent to killing an animal.
By your logic, Erica, if I tell an evironmentalist who hates Hummers that they should turn out the lights when they leave a room, I must be guilty of thinking that leaving a light on causes just as much pollution as driving a Hummer.
It doesn’t. Driving a Hummer is worse. Just like abusing/killing a human is worse than abusing/killing an animal. But they’re wrong for the same reasons, and anyone opposed to the former should be opposed to the latter as well.
At least Tiller’s killer killed Tiller for something the killer thought was important. Casual omnivores kill just because they’d prefer the taste of a hamburger to the taste of a black bean burger.
ECB hates PETA. News at 11!
/Seriously, get some new material.
erica stole something= what’s it to ya?
peta convinced my 5th grader that eating meat was bad= creative cooking for a few weeks= peta works on 5th grader mentality= what’s it to ya?
Interesting how a group that is supposedly all about saving defenseless animals is also the only group whose animal shelter killed 95% of the animals turned in to it with the idea that the animals would be found new homes. How many animals did they actually adopt out? A whole 7 in 2008. Out of the 2,216 they took in that year. And this isn’t just hearsay, it’s from paperwork they themselves filed with the state of Virginia.
A holocaust indeed.
vitamin B12. You need it to survive. The only (natural) way to get it is from animal products. That is all.
I’m definitely going to have an extra helping of meat for lunch in PETA’s honor.
Dear PETA:
Why is it okay to kill plants and eat them, but not animals?
If you’re “pro-life” blah blah blah.
Sincerely,
The Wichita Eagle made this PETA crap a headline. Infotainment at its most sickening. And of course the blogosphere follows suit.
You know what Kansas? You have bigger problems than PETA right now. Much bigger problems. Maybe you ought to be focusing on those.
But no. Pick THIS to whine about, people. Because, you know, whatever PETA is doing with regard to the murder of Dr. Tiller is important enough to garner page space. Not the societal ills and cultural poisoning inflicted upon us by the hateful anti-choice/anti-women demographic, which lead to the death of George Tiller after many threats and three previous attempts to take his life. Never mind the multitude of groups around the nation hailing the murder and exploiting this event to further their own agendas of mental pollution, namely to take away a woman’s human right to not be forced to give birth against her will. Compulsory childbirth *is* slavery, nothing less. But never mind that. What PETA is doing is a real story, right?
No wonder your state is so fucked up.
I know newspapers are hard up for ad revenue, but to focus on THIS non-headline as if it were relevant news– this empty but eye-grabbing garbage tabloid story devoid of ANY real meaning… Well, I don’t think I am alone in thinking that PETA is not the only organization that is mistakenly skewing their “priorities” in an entirely wrong and very fucked-up direction. By wasting space on this (non)story, you as a supposed news organization do a higher disservice to the memory of Dr. Tiller and the issues surrounding his death than this PETA campaign ever could. And to add insult to injury, your editors just gave their little stunt free publicity.
Much as I love our own homegrown SLOG, it was instructive to surf on over to Feministe, where the quality of commenting on this topic was waaay above what we’re seeing here, including a thread on PETA’s alienation of feminist vegans. Seriously people, enough with the ad hominem (or in ECB’s case, ad feminem) attacks. Respond to the IDEA, see? That’s how it’s done.
PETA sympathizers firebombed a reseacher’s home (while his family-including the pets!-were inside sleeping) in California recently; no different from the types of people who firebombed Tiller’s clinic. PETA is now capitalizing on the murder to make its terrorist political point. Next up will be Fred Phelps to do the same thing at Tiller’s funeral this Saturday (according to his website). The Wichita Eagle (and the local NPR outlets, too) are right to point out the opportunism of these extremists.
Erica: I agree with you. I also don’t think is well-timed, sensitive or appropriate.
PETA is kind of like CM — they don’t realize that their more extreme choices hurt their cause more than help it.
My theory over the last few years is that the PR/advertising branch of PETA is actually run by a bunch of deep cover operatives from the meat industry.
They have yet to prove me wrong.
To quote Chevy Chase, “What a breakthrough! Now I can finally hate myself!”
Biologist @ 76 is right again. PETA is the cute-little-chick version of the radical anti-choicers, right down to the bombs. What if we fixed up Ingrid Newkirk of PETA and Randall Terry of Operation Rescue? Makes me giggle to think what THEIR kids would be like…and hey! does a GGG vegan spit or swallow?
@75 Unfortunately, some commentors on SLOG usually go too far with their comments. Design students tend to make the same mistake with projects, it’s important to step back from one’s work and not complicate the visual message.
Ad feminem attacks aside, it’s certainly fair for commentors to question Erica’s outcry against PeTA’s lax ethics. Her shoplifting episode earlier this year will forever haunt her ability to ever question the ethics of, well, anything. She would better be suited to report on City News, with the rest of her free time she could always volunteer at Seattle Animal Shelter.
Andy Warhol immortalized Marilyn Monroe on canvas shortly after her death. I’m sure many a critic found the paintings tacky whilst art historians declare, “it’s art!” Timing is everything in marketing, and the publicity given to PeTA can be hailed a success.
What I find hilarious is how so many commentors pick & choose their beliefs, like everyone else, but reject/mock opposing viewpoints. Reminds me of first-year art students that don’t know any better.
@ 76, links? My google-fu is coming up empty on the firebombing story.
Whoops, found it. Never mind, 76.
Okay, 76, if I found the right article (see link below) it only says that they firebombed the researcher’s car, not his home while he slept. Bad, but you exaggerated and that’s also bad. (Unless I got the wrong story.)
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beat…
#51 – Yes, yes, my ancestors evolved eating (raw) meat (that they hunted). Why do I have do live like them now that we know better? Do I have to rape, murder, wage wars, steal horses, kill my neighbors’ children, hunt species until extinction, throw rocks at gay/transgender people, wear dirty loincloths, and enslave people of other races too? It’s clearly not because eating meat makes one healthier – eating meat shortens your life as much as smoking.
Stealing $7 from Kroger Corp is absolutely nothing compared to the moral outrages committed by PETA, meat eaters, or anti-abortion extremists.
PETA sucks on SOOOOOOO many levels. This just heightens my disgust for them.
Can we gather all the Erica haters/shoplifting trolls in a room with her and have them just tell her off in person once and for all so we don’t have to read over their insufferable comments in any of her posts anymore? It’s getting really old. Quick vote- how many of you would actually do that given the chance? Probably not many as it’s easier to remain a coward behind anonymous comments. I doubt anyone would have the balls to say these things to her face. Fer feck’s sake.
I’m actually usually with ECB on a lot of stuff, and was kindof agreeing with her post until I hit the part about vengefully eating foie gras just to piss PETA off.
Even if you think raising geese that way is ok, I think it is still a practice that is only borderline ok. Threatening to potentially mistreat an ANIMAL to get back at PETA is pretty fucking evil. So I think for the first time ever, I am going to say: fuck ECB.
I’m pretty sure PETA is an agent provocateur in the animal rights/humane treatment movement. Penn and Teller did a ‘Bullshit’ episode about them once, IIRC.
@ 85 and 87, yes, and yes PLEASE! This is pointless, useless, and just plain boring by now.
80 (to continue the arts analogy), to bring up the shoplifting in this context is like saying you won’t listen to Tristan und Isolde because Wagner was an anti-Semite. True and unrelated; ergo, ad hominem.
The infamous Maddox disproved the notion that vegetarianmism is animal friendly. Animals get killed in the production of wheat and produce.
At least the meat that’s slaughtered is actually eaten: The animals killed in wheat production just get tossed away.
Also, since we’re on the subject… I don’t hate ECB. But I don’t mind pointing out when she says something full of shit… which unfortunately happens frequently.
Dear Matt from Denver:
I’m sorry, I conflated several attacks on different UCLA researchers’ homes. In some, they were home, some they weren’t, some were attacks on cars, some on the house. It looks like at least 4 attacks since 2006:
http://cbs2.com/local/UCLA.researcher.fi…
and
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/fbi…
Man, if you want to see crazy, hang out with the vegan group on meetup.com. Major high school clique stuff there, with anyone who is a little different being quickly blackballed. Ironically, the Queen Bee, Anthony, was eased out of Vegetarians of Washington for creepy behavior.
@92 – Thank you. I totally agree. I’m just saying, to those who do so, can we do it without the high level of animosity and calling her a piece of shit/cunt/evil bitch/manhater/thief/fill in the blank- in every other comment? It’s pathetic and irritating.
Maybe you didn’t read the first image you published. It showed that PETA is capitalizing on slogans, but not making any pro or anti abortion claim. The outrage is misplaced.
I’m with ECB on this. Fuck PETA. When I get home I am going to punch my cockatoo in the face.
My baked fish sure was tasty, and quite healthy!
I don’t even eat meat, and PETA’s ad campaigns always make me want to go buy a side of beef and a couple of piglets.
I dislike PETA for many reasons and I am a vegan. ECB, your “writng” style may encourage more donations to PETA because it is so poor. You simply post quick rants with no logic or credible information.
Gomez @ 91:
Your post and the link is interesting, though perhaps its better as an argument against moral absolutes than it is against a vegetarian diet. I’m tempted to challenge the OSU professor’s conclusions, but I won’t go there.
For me, the more interesting moral question is the necessary harm to wildlife from population control methods inherent in food production — traps, poisons, herbicides, etc. This involves “intention” and implicates all consumers, including vegetarians and vegans. I suppose that at least partly explains the motivations toward fruitarianism — which even Gandhi discontinued after finding it unsustainable.
Of course, even if “Maddox” were correct re: the moral equivalence between vegetarianism and omnivorism, he has not addressed the health aspects of daily consumption of meat nor has he addressed the environmental degradation accompanying meat production. Attacking others’ moral judgments only gets you part of the way.