22 replies on “How Involved Was the Mormon Church?”
the power of the spaghetti monster will be there helping us in our work to defending the Kingdom of Zeus and strengthening the work of the Jolly Green Giant.
Kinda puts the lie to the “we’re really just nice folks” image, doesn’t it?
Well that’s the last straw. We should all resign our memberships in the Mormon Church immediately.
I knew about all of this until the 1:45 mark. This is outrageous. Why aren’t more people covering this?
If the mainstream media actually covered this, maybe we wouldn’t sound like shrill harpies, and the Mormon Church wouldn’t look like such a wounded victim.
Has anyone figured out you might want to send a copy of this to a certain CNN journalist named Rachel Maddow?
You’d be surprised how effective that is.
Wow, there’s a Rachel Maddow at CNN too?
This is such a gross violation of the separation of church and state, and everyone is right: why isn’t this being covered by the mainstream? Has NPR even picked it up?
So, if they have the leaked hour-long video and transcript, where is it? Why won’t the ANP — or whoever has it — post it?
If God is mad at ME, that’s not YOUR problem. Why do people insist on being the instruments of God’s condemnation upon others?
Because organized religion is, by its very nature, totalitarian and repressive. Which is why it’s not a good idea to have them running the government. Any religion, any government.
Mormons, you won’t have to get gay married, so please stop forcing us to live by Mormon beliefs.
It’s not illegal for any Religious entity to support an initiative process. End of story.
I don’t know about these Mormon people. They don’t seem so friendly. If it wasn’t for their magic underpants I’d be forced to think they had no sense of humor at all.
I like the way they try to frame the argument as a moral issue, not a civil issue. If thats really the case then pray all you fucking want, but don’t be sticking your nose in other people’s lives through legislature. That makes it a civil issue, through your very involvement in the ‘civil’ process.
And Saghorn, it might not be illegal, but it does make them assholes.
So what if the IRS investigates and finds out the mormons spent millions? Even if they were to lose tax-exempt status, churchs command millions of unquestioning robots. Churches order, followers obey… no matter what.
I work with a bunch of mormons who are conservative and against gay marriage and the works and when I ask them why they’re against it or if they think it might be wrong, they always say the same thing: they DON’T think about it, they just do whatever the head mormon minister tells them. And if they feel that the head mormon might be wrong? Then they pray about it.
@6 whatever … CNN, CNBC, MSNBC i never could keep them straight and they shuffle around anyway so why bother.
I’ve been trying to resign from the Mormon church since November. I sent one letter to the church in Salt Lake and they wrote back telling me I needed to talk to my Bishop. Today I went to: http://mormonnomore.com/ and copied the text of a more demanding resignation letter and will be mailing it out tomorrow.
If you’re an ex-Mormon who thinks the church is full of crap but you are still on the church membership rolls, consider officially resigning. Why be associated with that nonsense any longer?
dear Lois Lane wanna-bes:
no media (not even pathetic liberal inept NPR) have picked this up because even the most biased of them recognize that there is no story. any time you see the ‘Mormons should lose tax exempt status’ whine you can automatically know the whiner is an uninformed Mormon-hater who is wishful thinking (Dan).
The regulations cited (even the quote pulled out in the clip show it…) pertain to candidates running for office.
When ‘moral’ issues (alcohol regulations, abortion, pornography, marriage etc) are the subject of referendums (not campaigns for elected office) different rules apply.
How much help did anti 8 churches provide?
Did they sit on their complacent butts?
Or did they organize and encourage their members?
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But we would feel really really uncomfortable having to say ‘gay marriage’.
sorry
the power of the spaghetti monster will be there helping us in our work to defending the Kingdom of Zeus and strengthening the work of the Jolly Green Giant.
Kinda puts the lie to the “we’re really just nice folks” image, doesn’t it?
Well that’s the last straw. We should all resign our memberships in the Mormon Church immediately.
I knew about all of this until the 1:45 mark. This is outrageous. Why aren’t more people covering this?
If the mainstream media actually covered this, maybe we wouldn’t sound like shrill harpies, and the Mormon Church wouldn’t look like such a wounded victim.
Has anyone figured out you might want to send a copy of this to a certain CNN journalist named Rachel Maddow?
You’d be surprised how effective that is.
Wow, there’s a Rachel Maddow at CNN too?
This is such a gross violation of the separation of church and state, and everyone is right: why isn’t this being covered by the mainstream? Has NPR even picked it up?
So, if they have the leaked hour-long video and transcript, where is it? Why won’t the ANP — or whoever has it — post it?
If God is mad at ME, that’s not YOUR problem. Why do people insist on being the instruments of God’s condemnation upon others?
Because organized religion is, by its very nature, totalitarian and repressive. Which is why it’s not a good idea to have them running the government. Any religion, any government.
Mormons, you won’t have to get gay married, so please stop forcing us to live by Mormon beliefs.
It’s not illegal for any Religious entity to support an initiative process. End of story.
I don’t know about these Mormon people. They don’t seem so friendly. If it wasn’t for their magic underpants I’d be forced to think they had no sense of humor at all.
I like the way they try to frame the argument as a moral issue, not a civil issue. If thats really the case then pray all you fucking want, but don’t be sticking your nose in other people’s lives through legislature. That makes it a civil issue, through your very involvement in the ‘civil’ process.
And Saghorn, it might not be illegal, but it does make them assholes.
So what if the IRS investigates and finds out the mormons spent millions? Even if they were to lose tax-exempt status, churchs command millions of unquestioning robots. Churches order, followers obey… no matter what.
I work with a bunch of mormons who are conservative and against gay marriage and the works and when I ask them why they’re against it or if they think it might be wrong, they always say the same thing: they DON’T think about it, they just do whatever the head mormon minister tells them. And if they feel that the head mormon might be wrong? Then they pray about it.
@6 whatever … CNN, CNBC, MSNBC i never could keep them straight and they shuffle around anyway so why bother.
I’ve been trying to resign from the Mormon church since November. I sent one letter to the church in Salt Lake and they wrote back telling me I needed to talk to my Bishop. Today I went to: http://mormonnomore.com/ and copied the text of a more demanding resignation letter and will be mailing it out tomorrow.
If you’re an ex-Mormon who thinks the church is full of crap but you are still on the church membership rolls, consider officially resigning. Why be associated with that nonsense any longer?
dear Lois Lane wanna-bes:
no media (not even pathetic liberal inept NPR) have picked this up because even the most biased of them recognize that there is no story. any time you see the ‘Mormons should lose tax exempt status’ whine you can automatically know the whiner is an uninformed Mormon-hater who is wishful thinking (Dan).
The regulations cited (even the quote pulled out in the clip show it…) pertain to candidates running for office.
When ‘moral’ issues (alcohol regulations, abortion, pornography, marriage etc) are the subject of referendums (not campaigns for elected office) different rules apply.
How much help did anti 8 churches provide?
Did they sit on their complacent butts?
Or did they organize and encourage their members?
11
But we would feel really really uncomfortable having to say ‘gay marriage’.
sorry
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Manly macho Mormon guy?
Talk about an oxymor(m)on!
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ahahaha
you very funny boy!