Ladies and gentlemen, in case you’re wondering what you’re going to be upset about when the Christine O’Donnells, Sarah Palins, and Ann Coulters of the world dry up and die—DON’T SWEAT IT! Super-annoying 12-year-old Lia Mills is ready and willing to take their place. Check out her “logical” argument against abortion and how making this choice is NOT like choosing an ice cream flavor! GOOD TO KNOW. (Eeeasy, fist. Stay right where you are.)
I’m Pro-Choice (If You’re Talking about Choosing to Punch this 12-Year-Old in the Face)
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That is a very articulate, very scary little girl.
Sweet editing effects.
I really should’ve known better than to check out that particular YouTube comment thread.
You know how your balls retract when it’s cold? My eyeballs have retracted into my skull just like that to avoid her bullshit, and now I’m blind. Thanks, asshole.
Also, why the phrase “dry up and die”? I think you just mean “die”.
Oh my fucking God.
“I am very pro-choice, I think women should have the right to decide… whether or not they have kids.”
By that she means the only sluts have sex, and if you get pregnant having slutty slut sex you should have to LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES of your bad, bad, slutty sex. SMH.
This kid is articulate and knows how to speak on camera, but holy hell, can someone educate her, please?
getting past the annoyance factor, I am having a hard time thinking of something else that society thinks should be “safe, legal, and rare.” Hadn’t thought of that apparent contradiction before. Sort of a necessary evil. Murder in self-defense, perhaps? Needle exchanges?
I wish someone had hit me when I was an insufferable knowitall at her age. Go get her, Hump!
Well, if my know-it-all phase was any indication, she’s pretty much guaranteed that she’ll have an abortion at some point in the next 20 years.
she even looks like o’donnell. yikes.
I am, right this moment, saying a prayer to the flying spaghetti monster in thanks that youtube did not exist to record the jesus freak twattery that I would have recorded at 12. amen.
Check out her reasoning on why the unborn are human (link appears in the upper corner after this irritating little diatribe wraps up). This girl has had absolutely no education, but apparently a LOT of indoctrination.
Ugh. Nothing new to see here, move along. Just another moron comparing abortion to murder. *yawn* There was once a girl in my high school class who handed out leaflets for her mom (I assumed) that talked about how abortion was murder. The pamphlet had a picture of a fetus at LEAST in it’s third trimester of development with something like “do you really want to kill a child?”
When I asked her if she understood that most abortions are only legal in the first trimester when a “fetus” is nothing but a mass of cells and still has yet to rsemble a human, let alone developed feelings or nerves. She accused me of lying and pointed to the picture and said “THIS is what they look like when you abort a baby!”
Misinformation has always been there along with false arguments like this. And with the downward trend of intelligence our country seems to be experiencing I don’t see it’s effective diminishing anytime soon.
Now I want abortion-flavored ice cream.
ALL BABIES WANT TO GET BORN!
Or actually, what @8 said…she’ll be knocked up before she can drink.
@10 Ditto. I think I also signed a D.A.R.E. pledge in junior high. A few years later, I was picking “magic mushrooms” on my college campus.
Fallacy: “Abortion Kills a Baby, everyone knows that!”
That is begging the question.
Why am I preaching to the choir?
Parents raising kids to be evil is child abuse. Take the kids to a better home.
You are pretty smart for your age but you’re still a child.
You do not understand adult issues and gray areas but you will someday.
Meanwhile, go ask Mommy or Daddy why the Ten Commandments say don’t kill but cops/soldiers kill people all the time. Is God going to strike them down? No. Go have that gray area explained to you.
Also, honey, if you are for women deciding whether or not to have kids, they also get to decide WHEN they have kids.
Go talk to the Supreme Court about who is and isn’t a human. That’s their job, not yours.
Little girl, go eat your ice cream. Don’t lecture the rest of us.
Something tells me her litmus morality test of “not harming others” goes out the window were someone to ask her if she supports Gay Marriage.
“It doesn’t rob anyone else of their rights if I buy a GM over a Ford.”
This poor child has obviously been programmed by christianists.
As much as a part of me DOES want to punch her in the face, another part of me wants to give her a hug and tell her I am sorry that she will spend the rest of her life dealing with the human programming that mom and dad’s particular brand of crazy has burdened her soul with for the rest of her life.
THEN, I’d punch her.
Why is anyone paying attention to this 12 year old twat? Children are to be seen and not heard.
Not everything is black and white. 100% right or 100% wrong. 100% personal choice or 100% infringement on the rights of others. I hope she’ll learn this with time and maturity, but, frankly, I know some adults who still struggle with this concept.
@15 HaHA! I won the DARE essay contest in 5th grade, my “Just Say No” essay was so good! Now, I always say yes.
DARE:Foundational Education for the Future Experimentalist.
@ 6
I’m surprised no one responded to this more, I guess the girl is just that creepy. Smoking, drinking, fireworks, etc are close, but not quite the same. They are costly and damaging, but we love them, so these are different. But things like war, assassination, some gov. security measures, and economic sanctions I think could all fit in the same category as abortion. We don’t like them, don’t want them, but we should be able to do them just in case. Notice that a lot of these are similar to murder in self defense, when it comes down to you or someone else, you choose yourself. There’s a lot more to this, but I’ll leave off here.
You really want to punch a 12 year-old girl in the face because of her youtube video?
You suck.
I have a fuzzy recollection of being an anti abortionist at her age. I feel pretty bad about the comments I made way back.
I also had some pretty warped ideas about women… namely that a Mother is someone who must sacrifice everything of herself for her children.
@6- I am having a hard time thinking of something else that society thinks should be “safe, legal, and rare.”
Every other kind of surgery. Tah-DAH!
I don’t think she wrote that, she sounds like a spokes-child so that this argument can be spread to other children. She is quite good though, very reasonable seeming. It has all of the false logic of the anti-choice press. She is using arguments that they frequently employ. This thought process is that which is used to attempt to make abortion illegal even in cases of rape and incest.
A fetus is not a human until it is born alive. Women are not simply baby-making machines.
Yawn
So, things that are rare, and bad for you, should be illegal.
Like chocolate ice cream. Good to know.
She’s better informed than the majority of Pro-Enforced-Pregnancy Pundits. And young enough that it might actually be constructive to debate her. It would still be awfully damn satisfying to punch her in the face, though.
If this kid is against abortion, then by all means she shouldn’t have one. But I really, really hope she doesn’t reproduce.
@27: yep! Root canal comes to mind.
It’s pretty hilarious that people are replying to this thread in such a manner that they expect her to see their responses. Internet OUT.
It’s funny, because I’m the exact opposite. If I was King of the World, abortion would be a legal choice, but vanilla ice cream would be mandatory. A religious sacrament, in fact.
12
“most”?
so how many abortions, by your reckoning, murder a baby and how many just destroy tissue?
and since “most” abortions are not murder it is OK that some are?
Will you just listen to yourselves? You’re talking about a child – calling her a “twat”? Really? She’s annoying, sure, but the way she’s being burned at the stake here is absurd. Imho.
11
If the unborn are not human what are they?
what species do they belong to?
18
actually the Supreme Court’s job is to rule on what laws are constitutional.
they are very poorly equipped to rule on who/what is human, and when they stray into that area they err painfully.
see ‘Dred Scott’
biologists could tell you what is and isn’t human life.
they are trained.
they will tell you conception creates a new human life.
That’s their job, not yours.
Little girl, go eat your ice cream. Don’t lecture the rest of us.
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27
Surgery (for actual medical purpose, not to slaughter a baby…) makes someone whole and healthy.
Why do you wish to see it ‘rare’?
(you’re not still buttsore over that horrible mutulating accident during your penis ‘enlargement’, are you….)
28
What species IS a fetus?
@40: Surgery is only necessary when there is a problem with someone’s body that needs to be fixed. Therefore, surgery implies illness. Saying that surgery should be rare is like saying that we shouldn’t need police. Sure, the police keep us safe, but in a perfect world we wouldn’t need police.
@38, 39, 41: Well, look who knows so much? Are any of you boys biologists? As a BIOS major myself, I’ll give you sorry sons-of-bitches some edumacation.
If I perform a buccal swab on myself, the cheek cells I pull off are genetically human, with 46 chromosomes floating in their nuclei (assuming they’re in Gap 1 of the cell cycle). They contain human mitochondria, and are fed by my bloodstream. Are they human? Yes. Are they human beings? No. Should they be accorded any rights? No.
A cheek cell is not a human being because it cannot survive on its own. An embryo is not a human being until it is capable of surviving outside of the mother’s uterus; that is, until it is a late-term fetus. The day that we have the technology to safely and cheaply remove an embryo from the womb of a woman who doesn’t want to carry it to term and implant it into that of a woman who does, you can talk about banning abortion. Until then, you’d be doing an injustice to many women by forcing them to create new life against their will.
I don’t care if she’s 12, Holy fuck she’s an insufferable twat.
It’s like Tracy Flick from Election fucked Vanessa Bayer’s over-acting child star character from SNL.
“forcing them to create new life against their will.”
“create” life?
what is in them is not alive? zombie embryo?
so why the rush to kill it?
think carefully, junior-
no one is forcing anyone to create a new life.
they created new life themself when they had sex and got pregnant.
(have you studied that yet, mr bios? if not ask your mommy. or the milkman.)
no. the life has already been created.
Human Life.
sure- society doesn’t recognize that these new members of the race have any rights. “Toss them into the ovens…”
but that is a moral issue.
not a biological one.
the biology is clear.
and simple.
conception creates a new human life.
btw defining human life based on the current state of medical science is really looney. it’s alive or it isn’t. you finding excuses in your homoliberalhumanist theology to kill it is no different than prewar Southerners defending slavery based on the Bible or Nazis using their pseudo-science to justify slaughtering Jews.
The Jews, Africans and unborn are all humans deserving respect and life.
The fact that asshole Nazis, Slaveholders and abortionists deny those rights and pass laws to legalize their immoral behavior doesn’t change anything.
“because it cannot survive on its own.” is not a definition of life, junior.
what are the criterea of “Life”?
list them.
an embryo posses ALL of them.
Surgery doesn’t cause illness.
It reverses it.
Surgery is a good thing.
One may wish for Illness to be rare but it is not logical or humane to wish for surgery to be rare.
unless the only point of the surgery is to slaughter an innocent human life.
Do we wish that cures for AIDS be rare?
A cure implies that there is illness.
Do we hope cures for AIDS are rare?
No, junior, we do not.
we do not hope that good things are ‘rare’.
Abortion is not a good thing.
It is a monstrous depraved wicked thing.
Even it’s supporters recognize that.
Their guilt leads them to mew that they hope abortion becomes ‘rare’.
They are lying hypocrites.
and murderers…
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, Junior.
careful- you’ll hurt yourself…..
@44
Looks like someone is short-circuiting.
Also, you were the first to use the Nazis slaughtering the Jews thing to appeal to your own argument so you automatically lose.
Woe unto them, Rationalizing murder and whatever dumbass handles you cook up to…..
I wish to quote the Shit my Dad Says Twitter feed
“Everyone thinks their opinion matters. Don’t argue with a nobody. A farmer doesn’t bother telling a pig his breath smells like shit.”
You’re an uneducated nobody who thinks they have a good argument, but in reality, you don’t. Go back to your own pond and leave the big issues to folks with cognitive thinking skills.
“Which flavor of ice cream should I have?” ≠ “Should someone unready or unwilling to be a parent be forced to carry a fetus to term?” Arguments made by any who would boil down such an important topic to such comparisons cannot be taken seriously. Hopefully these sanctimonious interlopers will one day learn that. Maybe around the time they learn to drive, or accidentally get pregnant themselves and really have to really think about it.
@37: I think you’ll change your mind if you pronounce it as the Brits do (“twæt”) rather than as we Yanks do (“twɑt”). She is clearly the former.
Definitely a case of being too young to have really developed her own moral compass yet. Of course, she’d deny that accusation, but she is definitely missing out on the nuances of the situation that her parents haven’t seen fit to discuss with her. Fortunately, she seems reasonably intelligent, hopefully she’ll come around when she gets more exposure to ideas that aren’t Mommy and Daddy’s.
There are actually huge logical gaps in her argument. I don’t know if some of them are what was cut out in the editing process, or if she was just looking at her script between those takes, but yeah…