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Lindy West was born an unremarkable female baby in Seattle, Washington. The former Stranger writer covered movies, movie stars, exclamation points, lady stuff, large frightening fish, and much, much more....

150 replies on “Is My Scarf Fnarf Racist?”

  1. The construction “a Japanese” is correct, if awkward. Anybody who’s never run across it before needs to turn to the “Asia Pacific” section of the newspaper more often.

  2. Is Slog going to have user registration any time soon? I know, I know, I’m the 9000th person asking. Just want to point out, as evidenced by some of the foul posts on this thread, why registration is really, really, really needed.

  3. I think the little attention whore has had his fill for the day. P.S. I’m into vintage and I like that scarf – good score!

  4. I don’t think for a moment that you’re racist, Fnarf, but I do think that the term ‘a Japanese’, although, as you say, perfectly correct, sounds very strange for some reason.

    Most of the terms I can think of that sound okay used as a singular noun seem to end with an ‘n’, eg: a South African, a German, a Canadian, whereas a Danish, a Welsh, a Spanish all sound wrong. Not disrespectful or racist, just peculiar. The only exceptions I can come up with are ones ending in a ‘k’ sound: a Czech, a Greek, or an ‘ee’ sound: an Israeli, a Bangladeshi.

    Perhaps the oddness and unfamiliarity of ‘a Japanese’ just makes people uncomfortable when they hear it and, because it’s hard to pinpoint exactly why it sounds wrong, people are mis-attributing that discomfort to racism on your part.

  5. Fnarf, just say ‘Nipponese’. After 5 years living in that sh*thole, it worked for me. Most racist a**holes in Asia.

    BTW, most Japanese think they are a race. It’s like living in the 1950s there but with fancy cell phones.

    Ware ware Nihonjin!

  6. Warning:

    @98 links to an html based trojan innoculating expolit,

    probably a variant of HTML/Exploit.DialogArg

    Don’t go there unless you have good antivirus protection. The link should be taken down.

  7. @115 — I knew better, and you probably did too, but I still clicked on it. Had to hit the switch on the power strip. Even command-Q (Mac) didn’t work like it used to. I felt silly.

  8. @113 – A Dane. A Spaniard. I don’t know about Welsh, other than a Welshman.

    I think the entire argument is nonsense. If someone said “a Taiwanese” or “a Filipino”, nobody would bat an eye.

  9. In all of this arguing, no one has addressed the constuction that always baffles me: when something is translated into English from another language, credit is often given to the translator by saying “translated from the Japanese by Jane Doe.” Now that has always sounded wrong to me. It seems like it would either be “translated from Japanese” or, even more awkwardly but precisely, “translated from the Japanese language.” I don’t know.

  10. @118, that’s always sounded odd and old-fashioned to me as well. My only guess is that it’s a shortened version of “translated from the (insert language) original”. A quick look at some translated novels on my bookshelf shows that “translated by (author name)” is maybe more common now, with no reference to the original language.

  11. COMMENT DELETED: Cock Puppetry
    We’d like to moderate your comments so all off-topic, gratuitously inflammatory, threatening, or otherwise inappropriate remarks will be removed except for the idiot assholes who run this 2 bit paper, and repeat offenders may be made to kiss Fnarfs AIDS-ridden dick. We ALWAYS censor comments based on ideology. Fuck you all who add to the conversation.

  12. @134, it was one of my fans pretending to be me using the n-word. Not a particularly good one. 110 was one of my fans pretending to be me rhapsodizing about raping a little girl. These are the natural obsessions of these people.

  13. COMMENT DELETED: Cock Puppetry
    We’d like to moderate your comments so all off-topic, gratuitously inflammatory, threatening, or otherwise inappropriate remarks will be removed except for the idiot assholes who run this 2 bit paper, and repeat offenders may be made to kiss Fnarfs AIDS-ridden dick. We ALWAYS censor comments based on ideology. Fuck you all who add to the conversation.

  14. Any Asian kid in his later teens or early 20s would easily obliterate Fnarf in a barfight, in fact, Fnarf’s only weapon, a computer mouse flung wildly in screaming fear, is so non-lethal as to make one wonder why he even talks shit online. He can’t back any of it up IRL. God, what a sad and desperate poser.

  15. For what it’s worth, I tell my ESL students that using an article + a substantive form of a group descriptor is not the preferred/polite way to refer to a member of that group. It’s not just a matter of ethnicity, either: “a Gay” is as bad as “a Black” or, for that matter, “a Japanese.”
    Letting the adjective stand as an adjective and using a noun like “person” is just much better all around. This is doubled, if not squared, for plurals (“The Blacks;” “The Gays”)
    This is not to say that the original poster had racist intent, but then, that’s how privilege works.

  16. 140

    ‘a gay’ sounds, well, gay; I’ll grant you.

    But what about ‘a faggot’?
    What if you add an adjective; as in
    ‘a punk faggot’; as in
    ‘Every Seattle male I ever met was a punk faggot’?
    is that more acceptable than
    ‘Every Seattle male I ever met was a gay’?

  17. Explain to me again, Hypatia, how “a Canadian” expresses privilege?

    “A gay” and “a black” are in no way similar to “a Japanese” or “a Canadian”. It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat it, or invoke “white privilege” or “straight privilege” or “non-Canadian privilege”; it’s NOT THE SAME THING.

    “Japanese” is NOT AN ADJECTIVE in this case (obviously it can be). If you look it up in the dictionary, it is a noun: “a person resident in Japan”.

    I’ll admit it’s awfully clever of you to accuse me of “privilege” for using “a black” or “a gay” when I never did any such thing. You must be proud.

  18. I still say that “a Japanese” is different from “a Canadian” in that it’s been historically used to describe ethnicity as well as nationality. But what the fuck am I doing back here anyway?!

  19. Fair enough. I see your point. But it’s both. And I think that shying away from the correct — and perfectly non-offensive — word for an ethnicity is more about fear than it is about sensitivity. As someone said above, it is perilously close to implying that there’s something wrong with being Japanese, something to tiptoe around.

    But we can agree to differ.

    “Privilege”, on the other hand, is another matter. Yes, it exists; yes, I have it; yes, I am aware of it, and how it works. “A Japanese”, being a matter of fact, isn’t it.

  20. So, I consider myself an average, decent guy, I dress plain,and look pretty average. I don’t really fit into any specific group. But I met this cumdumpster punk a few weeks ago at the mall. I’ll make this short..Things were going great. That is until one night, we were driving in my car. I pulled off the highway, and drove down an old dirt road and parked by an old lighthouse to piss, when i got back she started making out with me and groping my cock. Then she took the thing out and started sucking on it immediately ( i literally couldn’t stop her) I kind of felt weird about it because I probably still had piss on my filthy dick..anyways, she told me she was turned on by guys when they piss. Now she wants me to piss in her mouth..this is so fucked up…and obviously disgusts me, I haven’t talked to her since .what should i do?

  21. On behalf of all Americans, I would like to apologize for Fnarf’s racist attacks on the Japanese self-identified national and ethnic identity, and know that their core beliefs are that they are all descended from the same original racial group.

    Sorry about that, he’s just being a dick.

  22. YOU CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT ABOUT THE FNARFES HORRIBLE RACISM BUT WHAT ABOUT DAN SAVAGES RPLACE MAFIA AND THEIR DISCRIMINATION AGAINST DYKES OF SIZE AND RADICAL FAERIES HES THROWN US UNDER THE BUS SURE AS OBAMA AND HIS ANTI-QUEER AGENDA ITS ALL THE SAME WHETHER YOU LIVE IN WASHINGTON DC OR VASHON ISLAND THINK ABOUT THAT IS YOU DARE IF YOUR NOT PART OF THE GAY WHITE MALE OPPRESIVE CLASS!

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