22 replies on “The Witt Standard”

  1. So whats the big deal with people saying she had an affair with a married officers wife? They stated this as the real reason why she should be discharged, but I dont see any story talking about this. Bullshit or legit?

  2. Congratulations to Major Witt, her partner, and family. She has not only served her branch of service and her country with dignity and dedication, but continues to serve the VA and the nursing profession.

  3. @1: She wouldn’t be getting full benefits and a clear record if that turned up as problematic or outside proper military conduct, don’t you think?

    Let’s sum up your concern trolling: “HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS HORRIBLE ACCUSATION ABOUT THIS PERSON ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY FOR HER? SHE COULD BE A MONSTER!!”

  4. @4

    Since you didnt answer the question. I’ll ask again, did she really have an affair with a married officers wife and later turn out to be a long term relationship? Did that actually happen, yes/no? If yes, is that normally grounds for dismissal?

  5. Utter bullshit. She signed a contract, failed to abide by the terms of it and should suffer the consequences.

    @5

    At the time she served she was violating the UCMJ code on being a serving homosexual. If she didn’t like the terms, she shouldn’t have signed up for the military. Since she did so sign, she’s liable for the UCMJ as it stood when she did.

  6. Audie Murphy lied about his age to enlist in the Army, in violation of his contract, but who really gives a shit? Tens of thousands of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan today had their contracts violated in order to put the boots on the ground.

    It’s preferable for none of us to ever violate a contract, but it happens all the time and the world keeps turning. Barracks lawyers who never shut up about contract this and contract that get their asses fragged you know.

  7. @8

    So nobody is going to answer the question?

    1) Is having an affair with a spouse of an officer something you can be discharged for?
    2) Did she actually do this with an officers wife or was it some civilian?

  8. @15: How many straight service members have been kicked out for having affairs with someone else’s civilian spouse?

  9. @14: yes, it’s grounds for dismissal or other penalties if it happened. If you look over to the Kitsap peninsula this has recently resulted in a few firings of prominent straight officers. Adultery is a violation of the UCMJ.

  10. @16: Lots of them. Seriously. It just usually isn’t shouted from the rooftops. I don’t know anything about this specific case, but in general enforcing this is not some sort of anti-gay conspiracy; it is seriously unprofessional to have a relationship with your fellow serviceperson’s spouse, regardless of genders of anyone involved. If that fellow sailor/soldier/etc. is lower ranked than you, it is especially bad and treated as such.

    The civilian world doesn’t take sexual harassment and intraoffice romances very seriously, but for a variety of reasons the military does. The higher ranking the member involved, the more serious it usually is because there’s just so much potential for abuse of position.

  11. @10: Not so. Margaret Dumont was actually funny. (And she was funny precisely because she honestly didn’t understand Marxist humor!)

  12. @19, but her characters were unintentionally funny in just the way SB is – the way he barges over to chide us for being out of order, so proud of his own sense of propriety. And it’s still apt if we consider the actress herself: Groucho said she rarely understood why the audience found her lines so funny.

  13. (edit: I looked it up and that rascal Groucho used to tell that in his show, it turns out – however, most agree she was quite in on the jokes. So, to atone for my unkindness to Dumont I will forswear calling SB by her name. I won’t call him anything, or take any further notice of him at all.)

  14. Really, this isn’t difficult.

    When inducted Witt agreed to abide by the UCMJ. She understood that being discharged for violating the UCMJ would result in losing her retirement and access to the VA. She broke the law, and was discharged from the service.

    There was a legitimate way Ms. Witt could have made her case. She could have sued the government for the provisions of the UCMJ as discriminatory practice prior to enlisting. Had she won, none of this discussion would be taking place. But this is too easy. She preferred breaking the law and then asking others to bear the consequences of her law breaking.

    Realilty and logic make life so much easier. It truly is a pity that liberals understand neither.

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