One of the not-so-awesome things about living in New York is riding the train and having some dude rub his penis on you. In this video captured on the 4 train, a woman totally busts and humiliates a guy for this heinous crime. On the upside, he was wearing a condom.

49 replies on “Today’s Catch Phrase: “Then I See His Penis Out!””

  1. Speaking as a young woman, it’s exceedingly difficult to do something like this — stand up to a perv who is acting out in a way that’s pretty nasty — because it’s intimidating. Also, we grow up being told that men are going to hurt us, so we tend to wonder what a man who is cool with whipping his dick out and rubbing it on strangers is capable of if confronted.

    That said, this woman is awesome. Go her!

  4. I’m not blaming her for anything, I’m saying she and all women need to carry pepper spray for situations like this. Also, please peddle your bitter feminist malarkey somewhere else.

  6. Hey, back off. Ness is neither bitter nor feminist (not that we don’t get more than our share of them). And what she’s saying isn’t malarkey.

  8. Pepper spray would have hurt everyone in the train car. She did the right thing. She was bold, called the perv on his inappropriate action, and stood up to the creep.

  12. No, Ness IS getting all pissy about good advice.

    It is NOT blaming the victim to suggest how things could have been done better.

    And while pepper spray might have been kind of difficult to use judiciously in a crowded subway car, that should NEVER stop somebody from using it in a threatening situation. This situation might not warrant it, having it and bing readyto use it is entirely reasonable.

  13. @3, @10, misunderstanding a post, then presuming it’s somehow blaming the victim is, in fact, a behavior of the ‘kind most people tend to associate with that word.’

    Reading skills, people. We can make a better Slog!

  16. No, blip, you’re wrong.

    Blaming the victim would involve stating that the victim somehow CAUSED the incident. In this case, what was simply said is that she should have pepper spray to deal with the situation better.

  18. @16, no. Suggesting that the victim should have pepper sprayed him was merely a way of saying he deserves worse than the tongue lashing you can see being given here.

    It was NOT saying she did something wrong regarding the assault itself — it was clearly the poster suggesting he’d like to see the guy physically harmed as well.

    If I said her jacket clashed with her pants, I assume that’d be ‘blaming the victim’, too?

    Christ, hypersensitivity comes across as insanity sometimes.

  19. @17, She did exactly the right thing. Claiming that she should’ve somehow acted differently to rectify the situation is implying that she did something wrong. Or could’ve reacted “better”.

    “Why is a woman in NYC not carrying pepper spray?” — People shouldn’t HAVE to carry pepper spray. It shouldn’t be expected to have to carry something like that. What SHOULD be expected is that random guys aren’t going to whip their cocks out on the subway and rub it against you.

  20. In NYC that fool is lucky that she didn’t have a knife to cut his cock in half.

    But this disgusting thing happens on Sound Transit in WA all the time.

  22. @ 20, what you’re referring to is the second part of @2’s comment about “this is what pepper spray is for” — and I think everyone can agrees with that. It was the first part that’s problematic.

  23. Oh my god, @18, @19, just stop. It’s embarrassing.

    ‘Didn’t handle the situation appropriately?’ Nobody said that. @2 was implying he’d like to see her REALLY get him in the eyes with a shot of pepper spray. What in god’s name are you reading?

    Way to be racist, though. I’m capable of reading between the lines and detect a thin trace of anti-eskimo sentiment in your statements. Don’t deny it.

  24. Anyone who’s had real training with pepper spray & self-defense knows this is NOT the kind of situation in which you use it. Tight space, no clear exit – it’s a recipe for a bad scene, injuring bystanders, and getting hurt.

    You’re better off doing what this woman did or getting away as fast as you can.

    And, yeah, if you’re not blaming the flasher for sexual predation but telling the woman she’s handling it the wrong way, YOU’RE BLAMING THE VICTIM.

  26. And Ness, you’re right, no crimes should ever be committed.

    But they do happen.

    Simply carrying pepper spray is a good way to give somebody the peace of mind to carry on as they will.

    Worrying about situations, as you mentioned in your first comment, may stop some people from doing things.

    When thank you susanswerphone mentioned that women should carry pepper spray, they are actually suggesting a rather simple way to help people empower themselves.

  27. Uh, yeah soupytwist, I guess we would be blaming the victim for not handling the situation in the best way. We would not be blaming them for what happened to make them a victim though.

  31. @30: Not only are you a (confessed) douche, but apparently you can’t read and comprehend why using pepper spray would not have been “handling the situation in the best way”.

  36. I cannot believe I am about to participate in this exceptionally dumb argument, but alas, I am weak and cannot help myself:

    She may not be carrying pepper spray because buying pepper spray in New York City is a pain in the ass, requiring you to locate authorized dealers and then register your name with the state.

    She may not be carrying pepper spray because her habits of movement through the city do not bring her into areas where reasonable caution would warrant carrying a weapon. As with most other American cities, this is not only possible, but pretty easy for NYC residents above a certain socio-economic status. Not all subway lines in NYC are mugging hazards.

    She may not be carrying pepper spray because if she were to use it in a crowded subway car against a pervert who was threatening her with nothing more deadly than his penis, she would certainly involve other straphangers in the spray’s effects which would likely result in her being sued, beaten, or both.

    What she did do, instead of using pepper spray, was about the best possible response I can think of, and if I had a daughter, I’d have her watch this.

    Standing up for yourself, calling the authorities, and maximizing the public shaming of the offender is exactly the way to handle creepy but nonviolent behavior.

  37. @35

    So, apparently what’s actually happening in the video is of no relevance to this post any longer? If I said, ‘she should have flying drop kicked his face off.’ Am I blaming the victim, despite the fact that she’s clearly in control of the situation?

    I’d interpret that as a ‘nice work with what you’re doing, but I’d like to see some ADDITIONAL ass kicking here!’ Not, ‘God you’re fucking it all up, because you didn’t drop kick his face off.’

    But even if that’s what it did mean, it’s still not ‘blaming the victim.’ In fact, you’re so off-base suggesting that, that I’d hazard to call it -quote- ‘bitter feminist malarkey.’ And I don’t use the word ‘malarkey’ lightly.

    Usually when one ‘blames the victim’ the presumption is that they somehow brought the situation upon themselves, (dressing too sexy, being too flirty, being alone at night). These are all ridiculous reasons… And nobody was saying anything of the sort. But then you flew off the handle as though somehow saying anything with even a tinge of construed criticism about the victim was ‘blaming’ her. How ridiculous!

    Seriously, if that’s what you call ‘blaming the victim’, then you’ve watered the term down to the point that it no longer has any meaning. Congratulations! We’re going to have to call ACTUAL insulting statements something else from now on.

    FFFUUUUCKKK your narrow-minded bullshit is frustrating.

  38. @39, such a great post. I particularly love this line: “but alas, I am weak and cannot help myself”!

    Dare I add to this “malarkey” strewn discussion, but using a weapon risks escalating the situation into one in which the offender commits, or tries to commit, an even worse assault. Violence is seldom the best response.

    This lady handled the situation in an intelligent, strong and effective way. Full marks from me.

  39. Wow, 41 posts? I’m going to partially backtrack considering the crowd in the car. Since personal tasers are illegal in NY (it’s one of those East coast states that doesn’t like people defending themselves) I would say she should tell the motorman to call the transit cops. I would still never expect a woman to ponder all this when suddenly finding a pervert doing this kind of thing.

  42. The appropriate response to a man flashing you in front of dozens of people is not to spray harmful chemicals all over the place. You’re far more likely to harm others. What’s better is exactly what this lady, and I’m sure a few other people from that subway, did by escorting him to the police station, or wait for officers to arrive at your location. Pepper spray and bullets should be used against threats, and while a penis is cause for alarm, it’s certainly not a treat. Especially one that small, BAM.

  44. She is disgusted after seeing it and yet the guy next to him asks “Let me see your penis” and he won’t let him. Fucking double standards.

  45. She is all sorts of awesome, and she sounds like she’s from Queens. Ah, bitchy redheads from Queens, this black Brooklynite’s Kryptonite.

  47. I think she should have just kneed his balls, yelled about it, and gone on with her night. We like to think she’s made a difference by standing up to him and going to the police, but really all she’s done is waste her night.

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