Hey, check out the Most Commented thingee: if folks just comment the shit out of the bottom two posts, plus one more, we could drive Dan Savage out of the Most Commented spot for the first time ever. Go for it. I’d suggest some more posts about Foie Gras and how Bacon is like abortion. And a metric for how passionate folks are about the foie gras and abortion arguments: not one commenter called me on my egregiously insulting characterization of animal rights supporters as “a lot of pain-in-the-ass holier-than-thou fur-is-murder-yet-I-don’t-shave-my-legs-or-armpits types.” Normally that sort of thing is the focus of comments. Great work actually focusing on argument.

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  5. Not bad. So, let me just take the time to thank you, Ms. Clement, and Mr. Golob for being so hacktacular enough to get me off my ass and joining NARN in front of Lark this Friday. Don’t get me wrong – the Stranger, Slog, and Line Out are great and all, but you also do a bang up job of pissing people off.

  6. About your characterization – people who feel that way won’t argue, and the people characterized as such are used to the old stereotype and don’t need to respond. If you really wanted to distract us, you should have been more original.

  8. So are you asking for people to call you on your egregiously insulting characterization? I ignored it the first time because I thought you were just being an ignorant asshole. Now I see that you’re being an ignorant asshole who enjoys insulting people. So what if you disagree with people from NARN. That’s fine. I don’t know what your characterization is supposed to demonstrate, except that:

    People you disagree with are pains in the ass.
    You think people (women, specifically, it seems) should shave their armpits and legs because it makes you happy.

    None of this is related to your argument except that it is insulting to the people you disagree with. I take issue with the pain in the ass part because diversity of opinions make this world more interesting, and protesters, while they may be annoying to you if you disagree with them, are sometimes right on, and vital to public education. As for shaving armpits and legs, I suggest you go ahead and try keeping up on that and see if you can’t find 25 things more important to do than shave. Shaving is not important to our health, it’s just than men enjoy the illusion that women have prepubescent body hair. I don’t forget to shave because I’m an activist, I forget to shave because it’s ridiculous and I’d rather spend my time doing things that make me happy.

    Arguing against something you disagree with is normal, but insulting the person you disagree with is petty. It’s the refuge of someone who knows they don’t have a real argument to stand on.

  9. Social coersion to shame women into being unnaturally hairless = mandating traditional gender roles = anti-gay marriage. Why do you want your brother to be a 2nd class citizen? Are you guys fighting?

  11. CF, You’re the one who’s holier-than-thou, and you’re apparently very impressed with yourself that you finally passed Logic 101, although like many students now you just fire shit off from the hip. Bravo. You’re an idiot. Want a cookie?

  12. what bill savage is trying to say is that if you’re a man your time is too valuable to spend helping animals and if you’re a woman your time is so worthless you might as well devote yourself to shaving your legs

  15. You don’t want to shave your legs and armpits? Fine with me. Of course, I wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire, but that’s a different issue. Maybe you’d be happier living in fucking France or something.

  17. I am not quite sure what attracts so many humorless sycophants to slog.

    I think slog should designate an upcoming day as “Bacon and Foie Gras Day.” Then post about bacon, covered in foie gras, and then wrapped in bacon.

  19. For what it’s worth, when I read the bit about “fur-is-murder-yet-I-don’t-shave-my-legs-or-armpits” in your initial post I thought “that’s one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read,” but I didn’t feel any need to comment about it. But it doesn’t make any sense. It would be as logical to call them “fur-is-murder-yet-I-don’t-shave-my-cat types.”

  21. @8:

    Well, I’ll guess I’ll have to spell it out for ya. The fundamental crises of our time are:

    1) The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

    2) The current economic depression

    3) Feminine body hair

    Anything other than those three key issues is irrelevant. Any effort spent on any other activity is only worthy of scorn.

  22. @20 I love you too you humorless sycophant. I just want to give you a big, bacon-greasy kiss on the lips. 🙂

    Although, now I’m disappointed by the lack of veal on slog… mmm… veal.

  24. @21: I think those first two are pretty darn important, yes? The third, well, that’s just making fun of you. Which I also think is important.

  26. Who gives a fuck? Just tell people you’re hairy. Somebody will rustle around in there at some point. I have this kinda crinkled up arm. If, in conversation, I’m not asked about it from the get-go, I’ll tell people about it pretty much immediately and try to gauge their level of interest in it.

  27. Hey there Bill,
    How’s that prioritized list of causes coming along? I have some free time coming up this weekend that I want to use towards remedying some sort of political or social issue. Since you decided that foie gras (and by extension animal rights) is not a worthy cause in light of other more pressing problems, I’m wondering where to begin, and in what order, and with what means of protest or action. Please also post a complete list so that all activists everywhere can focus their personal/political capital, and tackle these issues one at a time, in order. Thank you.

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