It was a typical evening on Too Beautiful to Live, the
Seattle radio show that has been happily predicting its own demise
since it launched 11 months ago, and host Luke Burbank was getting
ready to share a special bit of audio he’d come across online. People
had been trying to suppress this audio file, forcing its deletion from
websites that were hosting it, but as fast as it came down it would pop
back up somewhere else, and now Burbank was going to play it for the
world. “What it is, is a tape of George Brett, longtime Kansas City
Royal third baseman, and he’s… it’s right before a baseball game, and
he’s mic’d up, they’re going to interview him for some reason, you
know, probably during the game, but they have the microphone turned on
early, and he’s telling a fellow player named Tony Peña,
longtime catcher in the major leagues, a story about a time when, well,
uh, he pooped his pants.”

Burbank, whose voice has the wry tone and mellow cadence of that
cool-kid charmer you might have known in high school, advised his
listeners that the quality of the audio would be a little bad. He
warned people who were driving to pull over. He gave them a minute to
do so. While he waited for the minute to pass, he tried to make this
about something bigger than poop. “I’m going to put forward the
question: Why are stories about people pooping their pants so, so
funny? Why is it? I don’t care how old you are. Why is it so funny? It
strikes at some kind of basic human evolutionary thing. I have a story,
not too much unlike this, that maybe I’ll tell if we have time
tonight….”

Oh, he will tell it. Not that the only thing Burbank does is on-air
poop jokes. Other segments of the show that night included Los
Angeles Times
music critic Ann Powers calling in to discuss the
intense reaction to a negative review she’d recently written about a
Tina Turner stadium performance, and an ensuing discussion of why
Turner’s fans can’t bear to read anything negative about her (“I think
it’s because of that scene in the movie when Ike beat her with a shoe,”
said Burbank’s producer and longtime friend, Jen Andrews); some musings
on the discontinuation of the clear, carbonated malt-liquor Zima (“It’s
not a world of men,” Burbank said, making a Glengarry Glen Ross reference); and talk about a scientific study of whether the overuse of
Purell can raise a person’s blood-alcohol level (a New York congressman
had recently used this idea as a defense against a DUI charge, and
Burbank thought it urgent to examine the scientific literature on the
subject). In other shows, Burbank will frequently explore the finer
points of English grammar with regular guest the Grammar Lady or, say,
channel the ghost of John Steinbeck via newly released tapes from the
British Library.

He’s highbrow. But that’s not all he is, and he’s definitely not
above a good poop anecdote. So when Brett’s
confessional—involving bad crab, the Bellagio hotel in Las Vegas,
and an unfortunate decision not to wear socks that night—was
over, Burbank decided, after a brief on-air deliberation, that it was
indeed time for him to share too. First he spoke admiringly of Brett’s
sense of pride about the incident (“I feel like George Brett would come
on this show tonight and tell that story again without even the least
bit of shame”) and talked at some length about the great lesson of
Brett’s pants-fouling, which was to always have a “poop brother,”
someone who is on notice to come rescue you in such a situation. For
Brett, this brother had ended up being a man with an extremely large
waist who was summoned via cell phone and happily gave Brett his pants.
Burbank announced he had arranged several potential poop brothers of
his own since hearing this.

“Now,” he said, “there is the story of when it happened to me…
We’ll take a break, and we’ll come back, and then I’ll lay that little
story on you in just a few minutes. This, by the way, is News Talk 97.3
KIRO FM. It’s where Seattle stays in touch.”

That was, in a way, the funniest part of the whole segment—the
station identification. KIRO FM is owned by Bonneville International, a
broadcasting company controlled by the Mormon Church. At almost every
hour of every day, KIRO’s on-air programming consists of sports jabber,
political shouting matches, and the same old traffic
reports—except for during three very odd hours each weekday
evening when Too Beautiful to Live is on.

A ll of this—the George Brett story, the Tina Turner talk, the
Zima nostalgia—came mixed in with clips of songs like Andrew
Bird’s “Heretics,” the Knife’s “Heartbeats,” and Jay-Z’s “Lost One.”
Somewhere out there, “the tens,” a relatively small but highly devoted
group of Too Beautiful to Live fans who take their name from
Burbank’s boasts about his “tens of listeners,” were tuning in, as
usual.

In the same time slot over on Seattle’s “Warm” 106.9 FM was Delilah,
the velvet-voiced empath whose far more successful commercial-radio
show is an object of ambivalent obsession for Burbank; he admires the
size of her audience, but he doesn’t want to be her. Syndicated on
hundreds of stations nationally, Delilah does dedications of cheesy
love songs and hopeful advice for the alone and heartbroken. Burbank,
who is syndicated nowhere, does something very different.

The on-air conversations he leads tend to have a snowed-in,
cabin-fever quality in the way that they meander—giddily,
time-passingly—from inconsequential fascinations (how to make
cake in a cup) to topical fixations (how to find designer clothes at
Goodwill during a recession). Beyond this, though, the show is hard to
describe, even for its promoters and cast—a cast that, in
addition to Burbank and producer
Andrews, includes soundman and
nerd heartthrob Sean De Tore plus a rotating crop of nicknamed interns,
“Silent Nick” for example.

The main difficulty in verbally encapsulating TBTL, as it’s
known by fans, is that it doesn’t have an easily defined subject matter
so much as it has a sensibility: eclectic, arch, highly literate, and
committed to exploring everything that comes to mind—from
Beyoncé to the troubled banking system. Some have said, likely
out of a mix of disgust and descriptive frustration, that TBTL is, basically, a cult that has somehow tricked the Mormons of
Bonneville International into allowing a bunch of questionably talented
pied pipers on-air. The initial response to this from Burbank—a
former standup comedian and proud NPR dropout—was to try to raise
money for buying some land in Central America in order to really make
the cult thing happen. He had a country picked out (El Salvador), three
of “the tens” were offering to be his “sister-wives,” and Andrews
helpfully noted that “there’s more money in cults.”

But then they got distracted with a prom they were throwing at Sole
Repair on Capitol Hill to celebrate their 150th show. This was in
August. At the Sole Repair prom, there was a balloon drop, Burbank wore
a white tuxedo with deep blue frills on his dress shirt, Kanye West’s
“Stronger” played, and many tens of “the tens” danced. About two months
later, NPR’s Ira Glass, after airing a piece Burbank had done for
This American Life, declared that Burbank, from his unglamorous
commercial-radio studio on Eastlake Avenue, is in the process of trying
to “reinvent news-talk radio.”

Something is certainly happening. KIRO program director Rod Arquette
told me that there’s been a measurable uptick in 7:00 to 10:00 p.m.
listeners since TBTL began airing. It’s a modest uptick, yes,
but measurable: from January 2008, when TBTL first launched,
through this summer, its share of listeners in its time slot grew from
2 percent to 2.2 percent, bumping it from 17th to 15th in the market.
(Delilah, by contrast, was ranked 5th in the market this summer.) On
Facebook, there is an organized group of over 350 self-identified
“tens”—with an additional 450 more “tens” on an official Facebook
page set up by the show. Many of them listen via the show’s podcast,
which had roughly 100,000 downloads in November, far more than any
other show on KIRO. This pleases Burbank, who says the podcast is
better than the show anyway.

He means that while as an on-air show TBTL clocks in at three
hours because of station breaks and advertising spots, as a podcast
it’s only an hour and a half of pure, noncommercial, somewhat NPR-like
radio. Plus, it’s not interrupted, and tonally undermined, by KIRO’s
carnival-barker promos and questionably newsworthy news updates (a
recent one featured an urgent report on spaghetti-sauce-throwing
vandals in a suburban community). Those are cut out on the podcast.

The podcast audience is dispersed all over the country, in places
such as Saint Louis, Missouri; Rochester, New York; and
Charlottesville, Virginia. In Manhattan, listeners download the show
each morning and tune in via their iPods while on the subway. In D.C.
and many other cities, listeners tune in at their desks during the
workday. While TBTL is far from KIRO’s highest-rated program
(that honor is shared by The Dori Monson Show and Seattle’s
Morning News with Gregg and Jane
), it is quite certainly the only
KIRO offering with a national cheering section filled with young
people. “I really love this show,” writes Travis Broyles, one of the
Facebook “tens,” whose online picture shows him wearing a curly blond
wig, a princess crown, and black-rimmed glasses. “I would give my left
everything to have you guys on Atlanta radio.”

In this sense, TBTL provides a vision of one possible future
for radio as it becomes something increasingly transmitted in bytes
running through cords rather than by waves floating through the air.
The show works for a highly fragmented audience that sprawls far beyond
the reach of KIRO’s terrestrial radio transmitters. Its multiplatform
presentation includes a regularly updated blog, a changing iTunes
playlist, and offline events such as the prom and the show’s new book
club. And its personality-driven concept is sticky enough to draw
fickle young listeners back, repeatedly.

Which is why KIRO, with its mostly older audience and otherwise
cookie-cutter programming, keeps such a weird, boutique offering on the
air.

For now.

I t’s safe to say that Burbank did not spend many of his earlier
years aspiring to work in the dingy offices of a commercial-radio
station on Eastlake Avenue and hold cast meetings in the bar of a
nearby Azteca. He was born in 1976 near Eureka, California, and raised
on a religious commune called The Lighthouse Ranch. “You know, Jesus
Camp
, healing, speaking in tongues—that was totally my life,”
he told me on a recent afternoon over drinks. At Azteca.

Nights on the commune, fearful of falling asleep with unconfessed
sins in his soul that would damn him to hell were he to die during
slumber, the young Burbank stayed up listening to the radio. Simulcasts
of Larry King Live. Radio replays of Sally Jesse Raphael.
Financial advice for the elderly. In the early 1980s, his parents moved
the family up to Seattle to help start a satellite branch of the
church. “Like most things like that, it was pretty poorly conceived,”
he told me. Meaning, the new church was being built by the
fallen-and-supposedly-redeemed for the

fallen-but-not-yet-redeemed. “Who would come join an operation
like that? It’s not the best and brightest, generally.”

For high school, he was sent to North Seattle Christian, now
defunct, where he met Jen Andrews, who would become a lifelong friend
and, in some ways, a career guardian angel. While there, he also, to
his lasting chagrin and joy, became a poster boy for the failures of
abstinence-only education.

“Ironically, we had an all-school debate contest that year,” Burbank
explained. “And the topic was ‘Should there be birth control provided
in this school?’ And, because I thought it would be more challenging, I
took the ‘Yes, there should be birth control provided in this school’
position, purely as a sort of rhetorical, or I guess forensic,
challenge… I wore suspenders. It was kind of a bad Clarence Darrow
kind of thing. And, um, like about a month later I got my girlfriend
pregnant, which I think was the ultimate commitment to winning that
debate.”

I laughed and imagined out-loud the young Luke Burbank saying, “For
my final point….”

“Yes, exactly,” he said, smiling and humping the table while
intoning: “And in closing….”

He sat down and continued, explaining that he was not alone in
upping Seattle’s teenage pregnancy rate. “Really, they just need to
take that school, do a major study of it, and just present that as the
final, irrefutable proof that abstinence education does not work.”

His girlfriend took early graduation. He transferred to Nathan Hale,
a North Seattle public school. “The day that my daughter was born,
February 17, 1994, I went to the hospital, I held her, I brought her
mom some flowers, and then I went to take a Spanish test, and I didn’t
tell anyone at school that I had just become a father.” Burbank was 17.
At the time, Nathan Hale offered students a chance to learn radio
through the high-school station, C89.5, but Burbank wasn’t allowed
on-air because he hadn’t been at the school long enough to take the
requisite training classes. He hasn’t forgotten that.

“I always say that the two motivating factors in my life are revenge
and vanity,” he told me.

For college, Burbank went to the University of Washington so he
could be near his daughter. In his spare time, he tried to intern at
KEXP. He didn’t get in, but he did land an internship at KUOW, the
university-owned NPR affiliate. He worked for the morning show
Weekday and, through a little trickery and over-the-phone
résumé inflating, landed a piece on the national NPR show
Marketplace. He pushed limits, trying to make KUOW funnier at a
time when it didn’t really want to be. Steve Scher, the current host
for Weekday, remembers Burbank as someone who was clearly bound
for bigger things. “He was always a guy who had a lot of talent and a
lot of energy,” Scher said. (In September, Scher was on TBTL talking about his tinnitus, a condition that causes him to hear a
semipermanent, high-pitched whine. For the occasion, Burbank repeatedly
played a grating approximation of the whine, as well as clips from a
soothing “Jungle River” download—mostly crickets and water
sounds—that Scher pipes almost constantly into one ear, via MP3
player earphone, in order to neutralize the tinnitus whine.) Others at
KUOW were not so fond of Burbank’s boundary testing. They still
grumble, for example, about how he allegedly stole office furniture on
his way out. (I recently asked Burbank for comment on this charge via

e-mail. “Scurrilous allegations,” he wrote back, via iPhone, from
a Lucinda Williams concert where, he added, he was drunk.)

After graduation, Burbank took over a producer job that Andrews was
leaving at the conservative talk-radio station KVI. One day, the
principal from Burbank’s evangelical high school called, pimping a new
self-published book. Burbank told him that the next time he was yelling
at a ninth grader he should remember this: “Fuck you,” he said and then
hung up. After a couple of years, he was back at KUOW, producing The
Conversation
for Ross Reynolds. From there to Rewind, a
satire show that lived briefly in Seattle and then died, and then
onward to Los Angeles, where Burbank worked as a booker for an NPR show
called Day to Day—and, once again, weaseled his way into
any opportunity in which he might prove he could do more. Eventually,
he was being called in to sub for NPR personalities around the country
who were pregnant or on book leave. He briefly covered Congress (with
the help of Congress for Dummies). He did some turns on the
news-and-humor show Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me.

Then, early in 2007, he was offered a job cohosting a new morning
show that NPR was launching in an effort to hook younger listeners. It
was called The Bryant Park Project, it was based in Brooklyn, it
was supposed to be centered around the hosts’ personalities, and it was
meant to be multiplatform and edgy. “It was a lousy radio show and,
like, a decent website,” Burbank said.

Though The Bryant Park Project had been launched as a bold
new radio experiment, memos quickly went out from on-high setting
limits on what Burbank and cohost Alison Stewart, formerly of MTV News,
could say and do. Burbank says he saw one e-mail from then-CEO of NPR
Ken Stern that read: “Luke Burbank cannot talk about his armpits
anymore on this show. That can never happen again.” (Stern did not
respond to a request for comment.)

Burbank quit The Bryant Park Project in December of 2007. The
show shut down soon after. If you search Google for it, you quickly
arrive at a now-lifeless NPR blog on which all the most recent posts,
from the first half of 2008, are tagged “Too Beautiful to Live.”
Burbank doesn’t know what that’s supposed to mean, but the name of his
KIRO show predates the tags on the NPR blog.

“To be honest with you, it wasn’t too beautiful to live, that was
the problem,” Burbank told me. “It was exactly what these lame bosses
wanted it to be. If it had been too beautiful to live, it would have
still been there.”

A fter quitting The Bryant Park Project, Burbank moved back to
Seattle. He missed his daughter. He wasn’t sure what was next. Andrews,
who was working at KIRO producing the Holiday Magic Charity
Radiothon
, convinced her bosses to give her a new evening gig that
involved Burbank as the host.

Thus Burbank arrived where he is now, sitting happily atop two giant
ironies. Irony number one: The NPR golden boy, who was tapped to help
that institution reach the younger generation, has now found that
commercial radio is actually a better perch from which to do just that.
Irony number two: The evangelical escapee, who still mocks the
backwardness of his rigid religious upbringing, has now been thrown a
career lifeline by the Mormon Church, which is paying him six figures
to essentially let his mouth and mind run wild on the air.

“They’re smart enough to realize that in 10 years, all their
listeners are going to be dead,” Burbank told me. “They’re just willing
to say, ‘This is a spot where you hang out and do this thing that
sounds totally weird to us.’ And there’s no way that these bosses
listen to the show and go, like, ‘Oh, good, another hour on Kanye
West’s girlfriend.’ But I just think they’re smart enough to leave it
alone. Basically we’re like a transplanted organ, and KIRO is just
doubling down on the antirejection drugs every day.”

(Arquette, the program director, put the high tolerance in somewhat
different terms. “A show like this takes time to go,” he told me.)

One night in late October, I sat in on a three-hour TBTL broadcast. Each hour opened, as always, with the song “Catch My
Disease” by Ben Lee—and, during one hour, with a version of the
song that was recorded by the marching band of Tacoma’s Curtis High
School as part of a recent TBTL competition. Soundman Sean De
Tore, who’s known on the show as Japan’s Number One Mixer (a long story
that dates back to the days when TBTL‘s main claim to fame was
its one ardent fan in Japan), kept watch over the levels. From the
other side of some soundproof glass, Jen “Flash” Andrews was in her
usual, intense eye-lock with Burbank. (“I’m mostly just trying to make
her laugh. If she’s reacting and laughing then I’m like, ‘Okay, this is
working.'”) Burbank was wearing a green-and-white gingham shirt, which
he would later mock as a bad tablecloth, the sleeves rolled up to show
a tattoo of a red star on the inside of his right arm.

They announced their weight for the day, another tradition.

Burbank: 184 pounds.

Andrews: 133 pounds, “pre-Azteca.”

De Tore: 151 pounds.

Topics to be discussed included Burbank’s plans to, with the help of
TBTL listeners, manufacture and market a “malt-based beverage”
called DemonSpit; what John Steinbeck’s words can teach Americans about
living through a financial crisis; stirrup pants, whether they’re
making a comeback, and how Burbank wore them to gym class in seventh
grade; the upcoming 30 Rock premiere and whether it was wise to
watch it online first; and, based on a recent piece on the website of
the New Yorker, the relationship advice contained in
Beyoncé songs.

It was their 199th episode—a pretty long life for a show that
was supposed to be dead by now. recommended

eli@thestranger.com

Eli Sanders was The Stranger's associate editor. His book, "While the City Slept," was a finalist for the Washington State Book Award and the Dayton Literary Peace Prize. He once did this and once won...

57 replies on “Beautiful Thing”

  1. I love this show. Was just telling a friend about it, and how being a fan reminds me of watching Monty Python on the crappy black and white “2nd tv” with rabbit ears down in the basement in 1976 (because the rest of the family was watching “Happy Days” upstairs on the color set). Same feeling of “why doesn’t everyone else love this as much as I do???” – it’s fun enjoyable smart radio. Doesn’t beat you over the head, but invites you in.

    Mikel

  2. I like the show because it is funny and you feel you know these people. Sort of like Seinfeld for the radio. they do a great job in bringing a smile to your face on your drive home. I believe they will go national someday. Just like Larry King started on radio at night. This is a winner.

  3. My wife and I dig the show in podcast form, making me a “time bandit” member of the Tens…she would be one of the Elevens as she doesn’t follow as doggedly as I do. I have always been a fan of silly things…this podcast is a constant stream of them, which is good.

  4. I podcast, time-bandit- love the show and recommend it to everyone I can. All the whiners who are hating it should just stop listening, quit obsessing and find something else they do enjoy.

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