It was a typical evening on Too Beautiful to Live, the
Seattle radio show that has been happily predicting its own demise
since it launched 11 months ago, and host Luke Burbank was getting
ready to share a special bit of audio he’d come across online. People
had been trying to suppress this audio file, forcing its deletion from
websites that were hosting it, but as fast as it came down it would pop
back up somewhere else, and now Burbank was going to play it for the
world. “What it is, is a tape of George Brett, longtime Kansas City
Royal third baseman, and he’s… it’s right before a baseball game, and
he’s mic’d up, they’re going to interview him for some reason, you
know, probably during the game, but they have the microphone turned on
early, and he’s telling a fellow player named Tony Peña,
longtime catcher in the major leagues, a story about a time when, well,
uh, he pooped his pants.”

Burbank, whose voice has the wry tone and mellow cadence of that
cool-kid charmer you might have known in high school, advised his
listeners that the quality of the audio would be a little bad. He
warned people who were driving to pull over. He gave them a minute to
do so. While he waited for the minute to pass, he tried to make this
about something bigger than poop. “I’m going to put forward the
question: Why are stories about people pooping their pants so, so
funny? Why is it? I don’t care how old you are. Why is it so funny? It
strikes at some kind of basic human evolutionary thing. I have a story,
not too much unlike this, that maybe I’ll tell if we have time
tonight….”

Oh, he will tell it. Not that the only thing Burbank does is on-air
poop jokes. Other segments of the show that night included Los
Angeles Times
music critic Ann Powers calling in to discuss the
intense reaction to a negative review she’d recently written about a
Tina Turner stadium performance, and an ensuing discussion of why
Turner’s fans can’t bear to read anything negative about her (“I think
it’s because of that scene in the movie when Ike beat her with a shoe,”
said Burbank’s producer and longtime friend, Jen Andrews); some musings
on the discontinuation of the clear, carbonated malt-liquor Zima (“It’s
not a world of men,” Burbank said, making a Glengarry Glen Ross reference); and talk about a scientific study of whether the overuse of
Purell can raise a person’s blood-alcohol level (a New York congressman
had recently used this idea as a defense against a DUI charge, and
Burbank thought it urgent to examine the scientific literature on the
subject). In other shows, Burbank will frequently explore the finer
points of English grammar with regular guest the Grammar Lady or, say,
channel the ghost of John Steinbeck via newly released tapes from the
British Library.

He’s highbrow. But that’s not all he is, and he’s definitely not
above a good poop anecdote. So when Brett’s
confessional—involving bad crab, the Bellagio hotel in Las Vegas,
and an unfortunate decision not to wear socks that night—was
over, Burbank decided, after a brief on-air deliberation, that it was
indeed time for him to share too. First he spoke admiringly of Brett’s
sense of pride about the incident (“I feel like George Brett would come
on this show tonight and tell that story again without even the least
bit of shame”) and talked at some length about the great lesson of
Brett’s pants-fouling, which was to always have a “poop brother,”
someone who is on notice to come rescue you in such a situation. For
Brett, this brother had ended up being a man with an extremely large
waist who was summoned via cell phone and happily gave Brett his pants.
Burbank announced he had arranged several potential poop brothers of
his own since hearing this.

“Now,” he said, “there is the story of when it happened to me…
We’ll take a break, and we’ll come back, and then I’ll lay that little
story on you in just a few minutes. This, by the way, is News Talk 97.3
KIRO FM. It’s where Seattle stays in touch.”

That was, in a way, the funniest part of the whole segment—the
station identification. KIRO FM is owned by Bonneville International, a
broadcasting company controlled by the Mormon Church. At almost every
hour of every day, KIRO’s on-air programming consists of sports jabber,
political shouting matches, and the same old traffic
reports—except for during three very odd hours each weekday
evening when Too Beautiful to Live is on.

A ll of this—the George Brett story, the Tina Turner talk, the
Zima nostalgia—came mixed in with clips of songs like Andrew
Bird’s “Heretics,” the Knife’s “Heartbeats,” and Jay-Z’s “Lost One.”
Somewhere out there, “the tens,” a relatively small but highly devoted
group of Too Beautiful to Live fans who take their name from
Burbank’s boasts about his “tens of listeners,” were tuning in, as
usual.

In the same time slot over on Seattle’s “Warm” 106.9 FM was Delilah,
the velvet-voiced empath whose far more successful commercial-radio
show is an object of ambivalent obsession for Burbank; he admires the
size of her audience, but he doesn’t want to be her. Syndicated on
hundreds of stations nationally, Delilah does dedications of cheesy
love songs and hopeful advice for the alone and heartbroken. Burbank,
who is syndicated nowhere, does something very different.

The on-air conversations he leads tend to have a snowed-in,
cabin-fever quality in the way that they meander—giddily,
time-passingly—from inconsequential fascinations (how to make
cake in a cup) to topical fixations (how to find designer clothes at
Goodwill during a recession). Beyond this, though, the show is hard to
describe, even for its promoters and cast—a cast that, in
addition to Burbank and producer
Andrews, includes soundman and
nerd heartthrob Sean De Tore plus a rotating crop of nicknamed interns,
“Silent Nick” for example.

The main difficulty in verbally encapsulating TBTL, as it’s
known by fans, is that it doesn’t have an easily defined subject matter
so much as it has a sensibility: eclectic, arch, highly literate, and
committed to exploring everything that comes to mind—from
Beyoncé to the troubled banking system. Some have said, likely
out of a mix of disgust and descriptive frustration, that TBTL is, basically, a cult that has somehow tricked the Mormons of
Bonneville International into allowing a bunch of questionably talented
pied pipers on-air. The initial response to this from Burbank—a
former standup comedian and proud NPR dropout—was to try to raise
money for buying some land in Central America in order to really make
the cult thing happen. He had a country picked out (El Salvador), three
of “the tens” were offering to be his “sister-wives,” and Andrews
helpfully noted that “there’s more money in cults.”

But then they got distracted with a prom they were throwing at Sole
Repair on Capitol Hill to celebrate their 150th show. This was in
August. At the Sole Repair prom, there was a balloon drop, Burbank wore
a white tuxedo with deep blue frills on his dress shirt, Kanye West’s
“Stronger” played, and many tens of “the tens” danced. About two months
later, NPR’s Ira Glass, after airing a piece Burbank had done for
This American Life, declared that Burbank, from his unglamorous
commercial-radio studio on Eastlake Avenue, is in the process of trying
to “reinvent news-talk radio.”

Something is certainly happening. KIRO program director Rod Arquette
told me that there’s been a measurable uptick in 7:00 to 10:00 p.m.
listeners since TBTL began airing. It’s a modest uptick, yes,
but measurable: from January 2008, when TBTL first launched,
through this summer, its share of listeners in its time slot grew from
2 percent to 2.2 percent, bumping it from 17th to 15th in the market.
(Delilah, by contrast, was ranked 5th in the market this summer.) On
Facebook, there is an organized group of over 350 self-identified
“tens”—with an additional 450 more “tens” on an official Facebook
page set up by the show. Many of them listen via the show’s podcast,
which had roughly 100,000 downloads in November, far more than any
other show on KIRO. This pleases Burbank, who says the podcast is
better than the show anyway.

He means that while as an on-air show TBTL clocks in at three
hours because of station breaks and advertising spots, as a podcast
it’s only an hour and a half of pure, noncommercial, somewhat NPR-like
radio. Plus, it’s not interrupted, and tonally undermined, by KIRO’s
carnival-barker promos and questionably newsworthy news updates (a
recent one featured an urgent report on spaghetti-sauce-throwing
vandals in a suburban community). Those are cut out on the podcast.

The podcast audience is dispersed all over the country, in places
such as Saint Louis, Missouri; Rochester, New York; and
Charlottesville, Virginia. In Manhattan, listeners download the show
each morning and tune in via their iPods while on the subway. In D.C.
and many other cities, listeners tune in at their desks during the
workday. While TBTL is far from KIRO’s highest-rated program
(that honor is shared by The Dori Monson Show and Seattle’s
Morning News with Gregg and Jane
), it is quite certainly the only
KIRO offering with a national cheering section filled with young
people. “I really love this show,” writes Travis Broyles, one of the
Facebook “tens,” whose online picture shows him wearing a curly blond
wig, a princess crown, and black-rimmed glasses. “I would give my left
everything to have you guys on Atlanta radio.”

In this sense, TBTL provides a vision of one possible future
for radio as it becomes something increasingly transmitted in bytes
running through cords rather than by waves floating through the air.
The show works for a highly fragmented audience that sprawls far beyond
the reach of KIRO’s terrestrial radio transmitters. Its multiplatform
presentation includes a regularly updated blog, a changing iTunes
playlist, and offline events such as the prom and the show’s new book
club. And its personality-driven concept is sticky enough to draw
fickle young listeners back, repeatedly.

Which is why KIRO, with its mostly older audience and otherwise
cookie-cutter programming, keeps such a weird, boutique offering on the
air.

For now.

I t’s safe to say that Burbank did not spend many of his earlier
years aspiring to work in the dingy offices of a commercial-radio
station on Eastlake Avenue and hold cast meetings in the bar of a
nearby Azteca. He was born in 1976 near Eureka, California, and raised
on a religious commune called The Lighthouse Ranch. “You know, Jesus
Camp
, healing, speaking in tongues—that was totally my life,”
he told me on a recent afternoon over drinks. At Azteca.

Nights on the commune, fearful of falling asleep with unconfessed
sins in his soul that would damn him to hell were he to die during
slumber, the young Burbank stayed up listening to the radio. Simulcasts
of Larry King Live. Radio replays of Sally Jesse Raphael.
Financial advice for the elderly. In the early 1980s, his parents moved
the family up to Seattle to help start a satellite branch of the
church. “Like most things like that, it was pretty poorly conceived,”
he told me. Meaning, the new church was being built by the
fallen-and-supposedly-redeemed for the

fallen-but-not-yet-redeemed. “Who would come join an operation
like that? It’s not the best and brightest, generally.”

For high school, he was sent to North Seattle Christian, now
defunct, where he met Jen Andrews, who would become a lifelong friend
and, in some ways, a career guardian angel. While there, he also, to
his lasting chagrin and joy, became a poster boy for the failures of
abstinence-only education.

“Ironically, we had an all-school debate contest that year,” Burbank
explained. “And the topic was ‘Should there be birth control provided
in this school?’ And, because I thought it would be more challenging, I
took the ‘Yes, there should be birth control provided in this school’
position, purely as a sort of rhetorical, or I guess forensic,
challenge… I wore suspenders. It was kind of a bad Clarence Darrow
kind of thing. And, um, like about a month later I got my girlfriend
pregnant, which I think was the ultimate commitment to winning that
debate.”

I laughed and imagined out-loud the young Luke Burbank saying, “For
my final point….”

“Yes, exactly,” he said, smiling and humping the table while
intoning: “And in closing….”

He sat down and continued, explaining that he was not alone in
upping Seattle’s teenage pregnancy rate. “Really, they just need to
take that school, do a major study of it, and just present that as the
final, irrefutable proof that abstinence education does not work.”

His girlfriend took early graduation. He transferred to Nathan Hale,
a North Seattle public school. “The day that my daughter was born,
February 17, 1994, I went to the hospital, I held her, I brought her
mom some flowers, and then I went to take a Spanish test, and I didn’t
tell anyone at school that I had just become a father.” Burbank was 17.
At the time, Nathan Hale offered students a chance to learn radio
through the high-school station, C89.5, but Burbank wasn’t allowed
on-air because he hadn’t been at the school long enough to take the
requisite training classes. He hasn’t forgotten that.

“I always say that the two motivating factors in my life are revenge
and vanity,” he told me.

For college, Burbank went to the University of Washington so he
could be near his daughter. In his spare time, he tried to intern at
KEXP. He didn’t get in, but he did land an internship at KUOW, the
university-owned NPR affiliate. He worked for the morning show
Weekday and, through a little trickery and over-the-phone
résumé inflating, landed a piece on the national NPR show
Marketplace. He pushed limits, trying to make KUOW funnier at a
time when it didn’t really want to be. Steve Scher, the current host
for Weekday, remembers Burbank as someone who was clearly bound
for bigger things. “He was always a guy who had a lot of talent and a
lot of energy,” Scher said. (In September, Scher was on TBTL talking about his tinnitus, a condition that causes him to hear a
semipermanent, high-pitched whine. For the occasion, Burbank repeatedly
played a grating approximation of the whine, as well as clips from a
soothing “Jungle River” download—mostly crickets and water
sounds—that Scher pipes almost constantly into one ear, via MP3
player earphone, in order to neutralize the tinnitus whine.) Others at
KUOW were not so fond of Burbank’s boundary testing. They still
grumble, for example, about how he allegedly stole office furniture on
his way out. (I recently asked Burbank for comment on this charge via

e-mail. “Scurrilous allegations,” he wrote back, via iPhone, from
a Lucinda Williams concert where, he added, he was drunk.)

After graduation, Burbank took over a producer job that Andrews was
leaving at the conservative talk-radio station KVI. One day, the
principal from Burbank’s evangelical high school called, pimping a new
self-published book. Burbank told him that the next time he was yelling
at a ninth grader he should remember this: “Fuck you,” he said and then
hung up. After a couple of years, he was back at KUOW, producing The
Conversation
for Ross Reynolds. From there to Rewind, a
satire show that lived briefly in Seattle and then died, and then
onward to Los Angeles, where Burbank worked as a booker for an NPR show
called Day to Day—and, once again, weaseled his way into
any opportunity in which he might prove he could do more. Eventually,
he was being called in to sub for NPR personalities around the country
who were pregnant or on book leave. He briefly covered Congress (with
the help of Congress for Dummies). He did some turns on the
news-and-humor show Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me.

Then, early in 2007, he was offered a job cohosting a new morning
show that NPR was launching in an effort to hook younger listeners. It
was called The Bryant Park Project, it was based in Brooklyn, it
was supposed to be centered around the hosts’ personalities, and it was
meant to be multiplatform and edgy. “It was a lousy radio show and,
like, a decent website,” Burbank said.

Though The Bryant Park Project had been launched as a bold
new radio experiment, memos quickly went out from on-high setting
limits on what Burbank and cohost Alison Stewart, formerly of MTV News,
could say and do. Burbank says he saw one e-mail from then-CEO of NPR
Ken Stern that read: “Luke Burbank cannot talk about his armpits
anymore on this show. That can never happen again.” (Stern did not
respond to a request for comment.)

Burbank quit The Bryant Park Project in December of 2007. The
show shut down soon after. If you search Google for it, you quickly
arrive at a now-lifeless NPR blog on which all the most recent posts,
from the first half of 2008, are tagged “Too Beautiful to Live.”
Burbank doesn’t know what that’s supposed to mean, but the name of his
KIRO show predates the tags on the NPR blog.

“To be honest with you, it wasn’t too beautiful to live, that was
the problem,” Burbank told me. “It was exactly what these lame bosses
wanted it to be. If it had been too beautiful to live, it would have
still been there.”

A fter quitting The Bryant Park Project, Burbank moved back to
Seattle. He missed his daughter. He wasn’t sure what was next. Andrews,
who was working at KIRO producing the Holiday Magic Charity
Radiothon
, convinced her bosses to give her a new evening gig that
involved Burbank as the host.

Thus Burbank arrived where he is now, sitting happily atop two giant
ironies. Irony number one: The NPR golden boy, who was tapped to help
that institution reach the younger generation, has now found that
commercial radio is actually a better perch from which to do just that.
Irony number two: The evangelical escapee, who still mocks the
backwardness of his rigid religious upbringing, has now been thrown a
career lifeline by the Mormon Church, which is paying him six figures
to essentially let his mouth and mind run wild on the air.

“They’re smart enough to realize that in 10 years, all their
listeners are going to be dead,” Burbank told me. “They’re just willing
to say, ‘This is a spot where you hang out and do this thing that
sounds totally weird to us.’ And there’s no way that these bosses
listen to the show and go, like, ‘Oh, good, another hour on Kanye
West’s girlfriend.’ But I just think they’re smart enough to leave it
alone. Basically we’re like a transplanted organ, and KIRO is just
doubling down on the antirejection drugs every day.”

(Arquette, the program director, put the high tolerance in somewhat
different terms. “A show like this takes time to go,” he told me.)

One night in late October, I sat in on a three-hour TBTL broadcast. Each hour opened, as always, with the song “Catch My
Disease” by Ben Lee—and, during one hour, with a version of the
song that was recorded by the marching band of Tacoma’s Curtis High
School as part of a recent TBTL competition. Soundman Sean De
Tore, who’s known on the show as Japan’s Number One Mixer (a long story
that dates back to the days when TBTL‘s main claim to fame was
its one ardent fan in Japan), kept watch over the levels. From the
other side of some soundproof glass, Jen “Flash” Andrews was in her
usual, intense eye-lock with Burbank. (“I’m mostly just trying to make
her laugh. If she’s reacting and laughing then I’m like, ‘Okay, this is
working.'”) Burbank was wearing a green-and-white gingham shirt, which
he would later mock as a bad tablecloth, the sleeves rolled up to show
a tattoo of a red star on the inside of his right arm.

They announced their weight for the day, another tradition.

Burbank: 184 pounds.

Andrews: 133 pounds, “pre-Azteca.”

De Tore: 151 pounds.

Topics to be discussed included Burbank’s plans to, with the help of
TBTL listeners, manufacture and market a “malt-based beverage”
called DemonSpit; what John Steinbeck’s words can teach Americans about
living through a financial crisis; stirrup pants, whether they’re
making a comeback, and how Burbank wore them to gym class in seventh
grade; the upcoming 30 Rock premiere and whether it was wise to
watch it online first; and, based on a recent piece on the website of
the New Yorker, the relationship advice contained in
Beyoncé songs.

It was their 199th episode—a pretty long life for a show that
was supposed to be dead by now. recommended

eli@thestranger.com

Eli Sanders was The Stranger's associate editor. His book, "While the City Slept," was a finalist for the Washington State Book Award and the Dayton Literary Peace Prize. He once did this and once won...

57 replies on “Beautiful Thing”

  1. When does this show start? I’m still waiting to see the “talent” he’s supposedly got. I’m like listening to someelses conversion in a bar near closing time.

  2. This show is great! I have listened to radio! I listened to Larry King on the radio too! Me and Luke are close in age. Whats great about the show? Your not being told what to think, how to feel, its NOT pushing your buttons, its like listening in on a conversation, and usually there is someone in “there” room that has your opinion. I think people are tired of shows that keep your attention by pushing your emotional buttons. I feel like I should be drinking slow gin or scotch and maybe reading my Thesaurus and sitting on my whoopie cush’n when I listen to this show! Feel me?!
    Blizzard of AuZ

  3. Nothing wrong with a show that’s irreverent and edgy. But why does Burbank and Company have to make their bits so ploddingly slow? A lot of the show seems made up just to amuse themselves…and if we don’t get it, I guess we’re not one of the cool kids.

  4. Really entertaining show. It’s just a shame that a sellout like Dori Monson gets credit for self aclaimed No.1 ratings due to the time he happens to be on the air. Keep up the good work! Great show. I love to listen to it every chance I have the opportunity. It’s pretty unique, no matter what the topic is, the show just seems to flow correctly. They GET IT!

  5. TBTL… priceless. A celebration of life. Not for those who wish to wallow in manufactured outrage. Angst isnt on the agenda, simply a unique perspective on what awesome radio can be. Proud to be amongst the 10’s, and even prouder to be a five.

    We “get it” – and now perhaps more of Seattle will recognize this jewel.

    Karl in Oly

  6. ABM said “I’m like listening to someelses conversion in a bar near closing time.”

    EXACTLY! Only the 10’s understand, and you’re either a 10 or you’re not.

    By the way, what is a “someelses,” anyway?

  7. I like the show, I’m in my mid to late 30’s, about the same age as the show’s crew. I have been listening for about 6 months.
    I’m self employed and do computer work at night so I can’t watch TV, and I hate silence when I work, so I’m not listening to Delila or sports, so TBTL is the next best thing, and they just talk about stuff that is interesting that you would do with any of your friends.
    My only complaint is he has to have the worst musical taste, at least what he mentions over the air. It’s seems to be very rigid, and he makes fun of some great all time bands and artists. Doesn’t make him sound too musically educated.
    But aside from that their onto something that is fresh on talk radio. And anyway, after a day about listening to real life downers and politics, TBTL is a nice distraction.
    6 figure salary ey ? Laughing all the way to the bank !

  8. I don’t listen often, as I am usually not available from 7:00 to 10:00 in the evening, but the show does have a certain fascination. I think what Burbank and Andrews have could best be described in the words of Robin Williams. They are almost tragically hip. They are so the cool kids who wouldn’t talk to you in high school. But now we get to listen in. The show is a nice diversion.

  9. How pathetic. Article should have told the more sordid history of “TBTL” … early in the show they were caught skimming all their “comedy” off other radio shows. Someone posted links in their blog and Luke went into an on-air tirade, accusing people of being “out to get him”, etc.

    Since that time Luke rules over his blog with an iron fist, instantly deleting any comment except the most fawning, subservient, sycophantic ball-licking. The Stranger could have done a helluva lot better than this.

  10. After he kicked me off of his blog for off-handedly mentioning that I thought he was fat (as in overweight, not as in cool), I started my own blog.

    What is most disturbing about Luke (aside from his lisp and his head which is, amazingly, a perfect sphere) is how he always engineers situations that allows him to compare various aspects of his physical characteristics to males younger than himself. I’ve covered this on my blog here:

    TBTL SPONSORS WEIRD CONTEST FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS
    http://wedislikekatie.blogspot.com/2008/…

    HIGH SCHOOL BOYS FAIL TO TUNE-IN TO BURBANK DESPITE HIS OFFERS OF PRIZES
    http://wedislikekatie.blogspot.com/2008/…

    BURBANK DISCUSSES HIS BODY HAIR AGAIN
    http://wedislikekatie.blogspot.com/2008/…

    BURBANK HAS A BAD LISP
    http://wedislikekatie.blogspot.com/2008/…

    BURBANK HAS LOWEST WEB TRAFFIC OF ANY KIRO SHOW
    http://wedislikekatie.blogspot.com/2008/…

    HISTORY OF TBTL
    http://wedislikekatie.blogspot.com/2008/…

  11. I have been giving this show a listen off and on for Several months
    It just keeps getting worse

    DEAD AIR is more entertaining
    I hope the contract is up soon

    maybe we can get something else to listen to while held captive on a drive home from work

  12. Luke Burbank sounds like he’s masturbating when he talks. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing but I’m not saying it’s good, either.

  13. I can’t hear the name “Luke Burbank” without hearing, in my head, the audience of Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me going “Luuuuuuuuuuuuuke!”

  14. My oh my… I have to support the soundbites here don’t I … In order to not be cast aside and be reported as off topic, rule one is there is no rule except… this isn’t radio… that is and was and forever norshallbe unrequited.

    Just in from the ad lib voice retort…

    Tinker bell, the unknown name in the R.O.A.R. pedal pusher soft tone flicker flannals… may have gone missing!!!

    Word has it that a very big load of toys was just dropped off at the Freemont underground habitat for misfit street urchins in search of sacks in lunchtime…..

    Well, what I meant to say is was and norshalleverbe reverberated in the halls of untoaforementioned lust…. (pssst…) little cindy loo hoo’s jammies are off limits unless…and mind you that’s a VERY BIG less…. your the cleaner.

    What that relly means kids iis id… lub… is ….where the hell did the swirly sound canvas chip go?

    my voicer is trapped in her viva voce’ corder-re… ow!!!! i hit my head again….

    what I am really trying to say is… merry x-mas and to all a goddnight nurse.

  15. I don’t quite know if those people were the ” cool ” kids in high school. There is a underlying but discernable ridgitity on certain things with them.
    They sure know film and TV that you cannot deny.
    I get the feeling that they could do three hours just on that subject. It’s the music promoting that’s lacking imo. All those unforgettable indie bands, you won’t hear from in a few years. Blah music. Burbank doesn’t like Marshall amps, challenging musicianship, distortion,
    cry baby wah, a harmonizer or a whammy bar on the guitar. It’s too offensive. It’s too metal or hard rock. I know I’m not an outsider on this either.
    But to his credit, he is smart, affable, well read, sensitive in spots and has an excellent sense of humor, despite he and Jennifer dissing one of the brightest, innovative and the best observasional comic’s of all time, George Carlin.
    It’s simply a radio show that’s something different for people around their age and away from the other predictable talk programs on the radio.
    I almost equate it to being kind of like The Mens Room over at KISW, in being that they are very much different radio talk shows, but it’s a niche type program where like minded people come together.

  16. The first show I heard was their second. It was a recap of the first show which was a recap of all the bad radio Luke had done in the past. Then they noted that a highlight show of bad radio was probably bad radio. And that segment was bad radio about bad radio about bad radio.

    I was hooked.

  17. The only thing I miss about delivering pizza was listening to TBTL while I did it. It’s almost the Sienfeld of radio becuase it’s not really about anything. And just to point out a factual error in the article, Luke would have been trying to get an internship at KCMU in 1994, not KEXP.

  18. I read a couple days ago about Butterball having one of his sycophants write a piece about him in The Stranger in a radio blog. I only now have a chance to read it, and I’ve got to say, how far The Stranger has fallen.

    I echo the comments of the previous posters – why didn’t The Stranger delve into TBTLs history of “borrowing” content, or Butterball’s weird on-air meltdown early in the show, etc. etc.? I’d expect this kind of co-op ad fluff from the Seattle Times, not The Stranger.

    This video says all anyone needs to know about Butterball and his nightly radio suckfest:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEW03pIT…

  19. This show is so painfully “cool” I find myself putting up with Michael Savage for more than 2 minutes at a time driving home. Great name but lack of content and self-righteously hip. No thanks.

  20. I think it’s funny the Stranger conveniently mentioned the name of the faux “cult” they wanted to start: The Movementarians. Yes, as in the Simpsons episode. They ripped that off and rode it for about 2 weeks – nary an acknowledgment or nod to the source material – before they got so many complaints they had to apologize for yet another instance of plagiarism and stop using it.

    This show is just a rehashed, warmed-over, compilation of a 100 original shows.

  21. Despite a few funny moments, the show deeply disturbs me. These superficial and blase’ people seem to be representative of a whole generation who learned everything they know from TV and movies. They string together long pop-culture cliches and bounce them off each other as if they were actually having a conversation.

  22. Cry me a river… the folks expressing outrage over a viable commercial product can go nail themselves to a cross in a performance Artism inspired moment of Anti. If its so mundane, why waste the time it takes to type a response ?

    Successful art is a deliberately manipulated medium which creates a reaction… and as far as I can tell, TBTL is therefore successful by that very definition.

    So please go ignore something else, or clean up your Mom’s basement, or perhaps create a blog of your own so you can rant about it.

    Them’s as can, do… them’s as cant, blog about it.

  23. TBTL on KIRO is an awful show, it’s definitely NOT a “talk radio show”, it’s not interactive at all and it is certainly not a topical or newsworthy show in the tradition of MIKE WEBB, it’s just wordy crap explained to us listeners as if we were still in kindergarten. they never take any calls, especially from someone with something on their mind and they don’t have any competition.
    It’s just two old friends who grew up in the same religion.
    They aren’t even hip or anything.
    It’s typical of the talk radio in this area anymore -DEAD!

  24. Painfully slow and unfunny.

    Did you get paid to right this or is the Stranger doing an ad swap with KIRO?

    Want to hear ground-breaking and funny radio done right? try Tom Scharpling’s “Best Show on WFMU.”

  25. “viable commercial product”

    It is NOT a viable commercial product if it’s been one-year and it’s only scraped out a listener increase from 2.0% to 2.2% despite a six-figure investment over the previous show.

    A 0.2% increase off a major promotional investment is nothing to write home about, it’s something to be ashamed about.

    Are you one of the 10’s or one of the 0.2’s?

  26. Just when you think they are finally culminating a solid entire 3 hour show, they do what they do tonight and spend an entire segment talking about Kanye West. How overrated can you be ? My wife and I are sitting there watching that on SNL and we are both thinking ” what’s so great about this ? “. We are not old either, she is 34 and I’m 36, so it’s not like we are stuck in a time warp, that stuff just isn’t talented. Guy doesn’t play an instrument or sing. Nothing about him impresses me.

    Then Luke who is 32 admits that he listens to KUBE. Ha ! You have to be kidding me. That’s too funny, really. Last I remember The Hold Steady, Band Of Horses and The Cure aren’t played on KUBE.

    He’ll do what he wants to do because it’s his show, and he’s actually saved when Kiro goes all sports, because there is no threat there because they’ll move over to FM.
    You can still have a successful radio program by keeping in the stuff all of the listeners would pretty much agree on and find entertaining.

    But that’s just a very minor part of the show, and that is why we continue to listen. My wife WILL NOT listen to all sports.

  27. Re: Mr Nicht. Hmmm… hides behind a screen name, check. Fails to recognize that blog postings increase traffic and therefore exposure, check. Quotes incomplete statistics to support a point of view, check. Self worth only established by validation of their aurgument, check. Repeatedly rises to the same bait, check.

    Sorry… decidedly not a 10.

    Luke and Jen rule. Please, feel free to generate more blog hits.

  28. This reminds me of when he and his assistant were fawning over this godawful “performer” who did nothing but shriek and wail with a guitar? ala Yoko Ono. I had to look this “artist” up online she was so bad. And then I had to hide my head in shame because she was an Asian “performer.” God help me.

  29. Karl Welty – sorry, but that’s got to be the singularly dumbest comment in this entire thread, or possibly the history of threads …

    “Increase blog hits?” Do you think I’m out to “get” TBTL? Come on, they’ve roasted their own goat by posting sub-par ratings. Me leaving a one-off, snide comment on a weekly newspaper’s website really has no impact on that one way or the other.
    We’re having a discussion, and I’m participating. Nothing more or less … are you new to this internet thing?

    Take a deep breath and stop getting so red in the face that your B/F Luke seems to be taking it in the pooper. No one outside the 2.2% cares.

  30. God, is it just me or does Karl sound like he’s 40 years old the way he’s writing? Take a load off, gramps.

    But seriously, this seems to be par for TBTL – they don’t really appeal much to youth with their NPR-esque/PG-Rated sunshine shenanigans, but rather the aged who miss their youth or like to think of themselves as “hip at heart.”

    Also, fat people.

    (Seriously, check out some of the photos of their listeners they post up, occasionally. Who robbed the Hostess factory?)

  31. I like the show, I just don’t get his negative comments to genuinely good musicians and bands.
    He ranked on the Eagles. Now I’m not saying they are the best band in rock and roll history but they did sell 83 million albums, so 80 million or so people thought they were alright.
    And they still put on a good concert ( sorry Jen 2 1/2 hr’s ) to this day.
    OK, every member can sing and sing well, all can write music, all are pretty proficient at their instruments ( especially Henley sings/drums ) can rock or can be mellow. Everything you need to have good ingridients for a good rock and roll band. I grew up with them and their music.
    ( But you could be people like the Dude who prefer CCR )

  32. “TBTL on KIRO is an awful show, it’s definitely NOT a “talk radio show”, it’s not interactive at all and it is certainly not a topical or newsworthy show in the tradition of MIKE WEBB, it’s just wordy crap explained to us listeners as if we were still in kindergarten. they never take any calls, especially from someone with something on their mind and they don’t have any competition.
    It’s just two old friends who grew up in the same religion.
    They aren’t even hip or anything.
    It’s typical of the talk radio in this area anymore -DEAD!”

    and that’s why I love it.

  33. UGGGGHHHHH, I thought (and hoped) by the title that this article was a joke. What a complete and utter bunch of bullshit. Every time I happen to turn to KIRO and hear this boring, boring, still-stuck-in-9th grade wannabe radio crap I wonder who Luke Burbank is related to that he got a show with zero talent. Also I wonder who he had suck off to have a show that is totally pointless and unentertaining night after night. KIRO SUCKS ever since they let Ron Reagen go. YUCK YUCK YUCK!

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