During their annual pledge drive, Colorado PBS station KDBI is giving massive attention to 9/11 Truthers. They’re also giving out 9/11 Truth videos and books to donors. I believe this is the most mainstream media attention that’s ever been given to the Truth movement.

Of course, if you go to KDBI’s website now, you’ll see this notice:

Digital Update: KBDI’s analog broadcast has been discontinued due to antenna damage. You can view the KBDI digital signal at low power now on frequency 38.

Coincidence? I bet some Truthers don’t think so!

(Via.)

44 replies on “Pledging for 9/11 Truth”

  1. Public broadcasting has been going down the tubes a lot lately, what with broadcasting medical pseudoscience infomercials during drives. I’d say “at least it’s not Oprah”, but people trust public broadcasting generally more than Oprah’s “new-aged enlightened housewife” trash. Oprah’s “the Secret” and Jenny McCarthy-based programming is probably more harmful in the long-run, though. At least the Truthers don’t generally win national elections or drive public science policy.

  2. *headdesk* These idiots don’t deserve the attention they get from Paul Constant alone, let alone a television station.

  3. “*headdesk* These idiots don’t deserve the attention they get from Paul Constant alone, let alone a television station. ” No, but they have cash money and give it away freely to hawk their shoddy wares.

  7. This should refreshing for anyone with an open mind who wants to live in a freedom-loving democracy. And irksome for those who literally think it is impossible that the official story of 9/11 is wrong. I bet they raised a lot of money with this, “truthers” aren’t a fringe minority. It just seems like it because they are so underrepresented in this country’s news media, crazy or sane. Fox has given “truthers” attention every now and then, mainly the ones with the craziest and most ridiculous theories, to make right wingers hate “leftists” even more, even though “truthers” range from conservative to liberal to moderate folks.

  8. Man, you guys come down way too hard on these people. I know the ‘movement’ has been highjacked by mostly right-wing conspiracy nuts, but at its root, it’s correct. The fact that we’re not being told the truth about those events is pretty much undeniable. The only real debate here is the extent to which we are being lied to.
    These guys tend to believe that they know the answers, so they’re usually wrong and nutty. But if any of you thinks you know the answer, particularly as handed down from the 9-11 investigation, you’re easily as gullible as any Alex Jones fan.
    Anyone who thinks they know what happened on 9-11 is decieving themselves. And if you don’t support further investigation, you don’t care what happened… And, I’m sorry, but your trusty hipster nonchalance shouldn’t apply to in this case.

  9. I will believe it when one single….all i need is ONE….person comes out and lets the cat outta the bag…..until that man or woman does then you are all just crazy conspiracy theorists.

    all i ask is one fucking person involved in this “cover up”

    get to it crazy bitches…find ’em

    stop reading this and find this person

    go!

  10. To really put this story in perspective, you have to be familiar with KBDI. They’re not your ordinary, run-of-the-mill PBS station. In fact, they’re really kinda “out there,” if you get my drift. Too many good drugs during the 60s is my bet.

  11. Conspiracy theorists are not “open-minded.” sorry. They are the exact opposite. And, yes, I’ve seen “Loose Change”

  13. I have a wacky 9/11 conspiracy theory – the people responsible were on those airplanes! It’s always the last place you look. We better check (read: blow up) Pakistan first, just in case.

  14. Who are the real morons? The ones who question authority or the ones who blindly believe the government’s story that Bin Laden did it despite a lack of solid evidence or a genuinely objective full-scale investigation (google “bin laden” and “fbi most wanted list”)?
    Since I’m sure most of the more uninformed commenters have yet to see the film, here’s a link to the video:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=…
    I hope more public television stations follow Denver’s example and start airing more documentaries that speak out against the military-industrial-corporate media establishment.
    http://www.kbdi.org/about_kbdi/press_roo…

  16. Sigh. And the twoofers have arrived.

    Your claims are insane and do not stand up to basic scrutiny. Once someone investigating gets beyond the unfounded claims, quote mining and anomaly hunting, they find that these claims are unfounded.

    Look, conspiracy theorists, if your claims had evidence to back them up, I would have posts like this one and #2.

    The fact remains, that there was an investigation. There was admission of involvement from those behind it that didn’t kill themselves in the process. There is extensive physical evidence of exactly what happened.

    What there isn’t is evidence of explosives, or space beams, or missles, or thermite or whatever your individual pet idea is.

  17. people who simply buy the official story as we were fed it are just as stupid as the idiots who talk about holographs and the other dumb theories.

    you know, ’cause it can only be one way or the other.

  18. @9: Andy, you have a rather simplistic view of things if you think that since no one “cat in a bag” has been let out, the Bush administration’s story — the one they told us within hours of the crimes of 9/11 — is the truth. Do you really think that the truth is either A) the official theory of some Saudis who conspired to commit the crimes with box knives under the direction of a guy in a cave on kidney dialysis while the U.S. Military looked on dumbfounded as a jumbo-jet was flown into the most protected building on Earth hours after two others were flown into the heart of Wall Street, or B) that there was one single massive alternative conspiracy perpetrated by a bunch of people who all know the whole story and are just biting their tongues? Come on.

    How many pieces of the U.S. government’s conspiracy theory need to be found to be unreliable before you will drop your complete faith in that story? How many other lies we were told by them must be uncovered before they lose any credibility in your eyes?

    Do you really still believe the stories told by these war criminals? The ones who lied us into invading Iraq? Really?

    Even the directors of the 9/11 Commission say their report was incomplete and flawed, and that they were repeatedly lied to during the investigation. Has anyone been prosecuted for lying to the 9/11 Commission? Even reprimanded? Not one. All the evidence was scooped up and destroyed as quickly as possible. Would that fly in any other crime scene investigation without raising suspicion about the motives of those who refused investigation and destroyed the evidence? Of course not. So why in this case does it not leave you with even the teensiest bit of doubt about the official theory?

    Please consider who benefits from your and others’ unwavering beliefs in the official conspiracy theory. Please consider how long it took us to uncover the truth about other false flag operations that led to war and whether those massive acts of fraud were each completely known to everyone involved. Please consider that our own government is known to have planned (and even had approved by our Joint Chiefs of Staff) plans to kill innocent Americans and blame it on others in order to provide an excuse for war.

  19. @16: “The fact remains, that there was an investigation.”

    Yeah… kind of. After a whole lot of foot-dragging by those who seem to be guilty at least of botching the reaction, and with a whole lot of obstruction and obfuscation, some investigation was performed.

    The following was written by Peter Tatchell and published by The Guardian on September 12, 2007:

    Six years after 9/11, the American public have still not been provided with a full and truthful account of the single greatest terror attack in US history.

    What they got was a turkey. The 9/11 Commission was hamstrung by official obstruction. It never managed to ascertain the whole truth of what happened on September 11 2001.

    The chair and vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, respectively Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, assert in their book, Without Precedent, that they were “set up to fail” and were starved of funds to do a proper investigation. They also confirm that they were denied access to the truth and misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the federal aviation authority; and that this obstruction and deception led them to contemplate slapping officials with criminal charges.

    Despite the many public statements by 9/11 commissioners and staff members acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been charged, tried, or even reprimanded, for lying to the 9/11 Commission.

    From the outset, the commission seemed to be hobbled. It did not start work until over a year after the attacks. Even then, its terms of reference were suspiciously narrow, its powers of investigation curiously limited and its time-frame for producing a report unhelpfully short – barely a year to sift through millions of pages of evidence and to interview hundreds of key witnesses.

    The final report did not examine key evidence, and neglected serious anomalies in the various accounts of what happened. The commissioners admit their report was incomplete and flawed, and that many questions about the terror attacks remain unanswered. Nevertheless, the 9/11 Commission was swiftly closed down on August 21 2004.

    I do not believe in conspiracy theories. I prefer rigorous, evidence-based analysis that sifts through the known facts and utilises expert opinion to draw conclusions that stand up to critical scrutiny. In other words, I believe in everything the 9/11 Commission was not.

    The failings of the official investigation have fuelled too many half-baked conspiracy theories. Some of the 9/11 “truth” groups promote speculative hypotheses, ignore innocent explanations, cite non-expert sources and jump to conclusions that are not proven by the known facts. They convert mere coincidence and circumstantial evidence into cast-iron proof. This is no way to debunk the obfuscations and evasions of the 9/11 report.

    But even amid the hype, some of these 9/11 groups raise valid and important questions that were never even considered, let alone answered, by the official investigation. The American public has not been told the complete truth about the events of that fateful autumn morning six years ago.

    What happened on 9/11 is fundamentally important in its own right. But equally important is the way the 9/11 cover-up signifies an absence of democratic, transparent and accountable government. Establishing the truth is, in part, about restoring honesty, trust and confidence in American politics.

    There are dozens of 9/11 “truth” websites and campaign groups. I cannot vouch for the veracity or credibility of any of them. But what I can say is that as well as making plenty of seemingly outrageous claims; a few of them raise legitimate questions that demand answers.

    Four of these well known “tell the truth” 9/11 websites are:

    1) Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which includes academics and intellectuals from many disciplines.

    2) 250+ 9/11 ‘Smoking Guns’ a website that cites over 250 pieces of evidence that allegedly contradict, or were omitted from, the 9/11 Commission report.

    3) The 911 Truth Campaign that, as well as offering its own evidence and theories, includes links to more than 20 similar websites.

    4) Patriots Question 9/11, perhaps the most plausible array of distinguished US citizens who question the official account of 9/11, including General Wesley Clark, former Nato commander in Europe, and seven members and staffers of the official 9/11 Commission, including the chair and vice chair. In all, this website documents the doubts of 110+ senior military, intelligence service, law enforcement and government officials; 200+ engineers and architects; 50+ pilots and aviation professionals; 150+ professors; 90+ entertainment and media people; and 190+ 9/11 survivors and family members. Although this is an impressive roll call, it doesn’t necessarily mean that these expert professionals are right. Nevertheless, their scepticism of the official version of events is reason to pause and reflect.

    More and more US citizens are critical of the official account. The respected Zogby polling organisation last week found that 51% of Americans want Congress to probe President Bush and Vice-President Cheney regarding the truth about the 9/11 attacks; 67% are also critical of the 9/11 Commission for not investigating the bizarre, unexplained collapse of the 47-storey World Trade Centre building 7 (WTC7). This building was not hit by any planes. Unlike WTC3, which was badly damaged by falling debris from the Twin Towers but which remained standing, WTC7 suffered minor damage but suddenly collapsed in a neat pile, as happens in a controlled demolition.

    In a 2006 interview with anchorman Evan Soloman of CBC’s Sunday programme, the vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, was reminded that the commission report failed to even mention the collapse of WTC7 or the suspicious hurried removal of the building debris from the site – before there could be a proper forensic investigation of what was a crime scene. Hamilton could only offer the lame excuse that the commissioners did not have “unlimited time” and could not be expected to answer “every question” the public asks.

    There are many, many more strange unexplained facts concerning the events of 9/11. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to be puzzled and want an explanation, or to be sceptical concerning the official version of events.

    Six years on from those terrible events, the survivors, and the friends and families of those who died, deserve to know the truth. Is honesty and transparency concerning 9/11 too much to ask of the president and Congress?

    What is needed is a new and truly independent commission of inquiry to sort coincidence and conjecture from fact, and to provide answers to the unsolved anomalies in the evidence available concerning the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Unlike the often-stymied first investigation, this new commission should be granted wide-ranging subpoena powers and unfettered access to government files and officials. George Bush should be called to testify, without his minders at hand to brief and prompt him. America – and the world – has a right to know the truth.

  21. Andy_Squirrel & others.
    Wait, so people who want a new investigation into 9/11 are all of a sudden buying into EVERY wacky conspiracy theory you can dream up? I for one am yet to believe anything I’ve heard, regardless of the source. So which (yours or mine) is the most prudent approach?
    I, as a ‘twoofer’ have nothing but suspicion about every theory I’ve been offered.
    You’re not so lucky to be debating idiots (no matter how hard you try to corner us), so drop the condescension and stop putting words in other people’s mouths. All you’re doing is throwing yourself 100% behind government sponsored conspiracy theories that have an equally small number of people ‘letting the cat out of the bag.’
    I don’t believe that there was thermite in the buildings. I believe a plane hit the pentagon. I don’t believe there were pods beneath the planes. I don’t believe that flight 93 was routed to Cleveland before crashing in Pennsylvania. Hell, I don’t even suspect any of those to be true. But what I do believe is that an adequate, open, and transparent public investigation needs to be conducted so there aren’t nearly as many holes in the story. If there were less holes, there’d be less nonsense to deal with, and we’d both be happier wouldn’t we?
    Oh that’s right, I’ll state again, you simply don’t give a fuck what happened, and you’d rather sit back and laugh at people who do. You’d rather pretend that we are a small group of whackos who think the government was in on it. Maybe they were. Maybe they weren’t. Maybe they sat back and let it happen. Maybe they failed to investigate and committed criminal neglect. Fuck you for mocking people who want to know what happened.
    If it weren’t for ‘twoofers’ of another kind, the Bush Administration’s torture program would never have been exposed. And idiocy like what you displayed above would have allowed it to simply fade away unnoticed.
    There are nuts of every kind, and you and Paul Constant are merely the mirror image of the people you’re mocking.

  22. The call letters alone have made me snicker multiple times since I moved to Denver. K-beady eye. But then, I’m really immature.

  23. @17 and @19: Fine. What, specifically, were the various investigations and reports wrong about?
    Include the commission report, the NTSB report, the Perdue University report and the various ones that I’ve forgotten of the top of my head.

  24. It is a shame and a pitiful testament to the state of our so-called democracy that discussion of the issue is drowned out by the motor-mouthed morons and professional snivellers of the far right whose love for all things military and fascist deny us all true justice.

  25. It is a shame and a pitiful testament to the state of our so-called democracy that discussion of the issue is drowned out by the motor-mouthed morons and professional snivellers of the far right whose love for all things military and fascist deny us all true justice.

  27. Come on twoofers, can not one of you present a coherent theory of the crime! I get that the idea that religious theocrats flying planes into buildings is too much for you, but what is your theory that better explains the evidence?

  30. In that case, you’re wildly wrong 28.
    I’m a socialist/pacifist. I opposed just about everything Bush did, I oppose most of Obama’s policies for being too right wing, I want to reduce the military to an absolute minimum, and I want to nationalize all essential services including health care, basic housing, water and food delivery and the like.
    Just because I’m a left winger, doesn’t mean I’m going to attribute crimes to the innocent that I otherwise oppose. I care whether my beliefs are true. There’s nothing to the 9-11 conspiracy bullshit, except for the conspiracy being amongst a bunch of fucktard religious fanatics who care no more for human life than the fucking fascist assholes we had/have in office.

  31. oh, and nanothermite? you’re a fucking idiot. You can’t use thermite to cut vertical columns. It doesn’t work. They found paint residue and some idiot non experts with an ax to grind made a bunch of shit up.

  35. The physical evidence is entirely one sided with regards to the trade center towers:
    1) they got hit by planes
    2) uncontrolled fires with no functional suppressions systems
    3) heat weakened (not melted) steel frame after some of the columns were cut by impact
    4) warping structures failed, leading to global collapse of the section from the impact above, going out of control and taking the rest of the tower with.

    Read the fucking Purdue University study before you start making things up, or giving nice little appeal to (mistaken) authority link. It covers exactly this topic.

    Find out what the fuck I’m talking about.

    nanothermite. holy FSM that’s stupid.

  36. Both the official story and alternatives are by definition conspiracies.
    Keen and Hamilton themselves have said they were setup to fail.

    Building 1 and 2 fell @ 2/3 of free fall speed, continually accelerating faster and faster through the path of greatest resistance, 80,000 tons of it’s structural steel. (Purdue omits floors 1-91 of wtc1 and floors 1-77 of wtc 2, it does not model the collapse, other issues with purdue http://stj911.org/ryan/PurdueLetter.html&hellip😉

    Building 7 was first ignored for the official story but now relies on 400 structural steel connections failing per second in a fire-induced gravitational collapse.
    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQ&hellip😉

    Thermite can be found in the BPAT Report from FEMA; the Report of the United States Geological Survey; and the report of RJ Lee Group (the company hired by the WTC insurance company to conduct an independent private study). Those findings should have led to investigation procedures determined by the National Fire Protection Association:

    “NFPA very clearly states melted steel or concrete is a sign of exotic accelerants. Therefore, the debris should have been thoroughly analyzed for exotic accelerants, specifically Thermite.”
    http://firefightersfor911truth.org/wp-co…

    Has anyone actually looked at the evidence from the Moussaoui trial?
    Our Governments evidence?
    http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecase…

    This bandana from flight 93?
    http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecase…

    The whole situation is F’d, we have two ways to go folks
    One relies on government agencies, compartmentation, classification, closed doors and torture. The alternative is individual and group research, transparency and growing peer reviews. Both have facts and fringe elements and focusing on the fringe elements is disingenuous at best.

  37. Path of greatest resistance would be up. Gravity matters. Purdue modeled up to the point of global collapse, IOW inevitability. WTC 7 had large portions of a 110 story office tower fall on it along with an unfought fire for 8 hours with an all steel frame and unusual design which made it particularly venerable to fire. There is an utter lack of evidence of melted steel. Find a source with access to the materials that says otherwise. Molten metals with lower melting points were found.

    36, what do you think happened?

  38. The Federal Reserve & AIPAC?
    The truth is so overrated!
    The truth is so yesterday!
    Maxwell jump ~

    Trolls galore doin’ the 911 dance:

    Shala la la la
    A little piece of you
    The little peace in me
    Will die
    For this is not America
    Shala la la la

  39. It’s clear that no one here took the trouble to visit the website nyccan.org and look at the questions that they are looking to have answered. It all seems reasonable to me. Chiefly they want Bush, Cheney, Tenet, et al to answer questions about what happened leading up to 9/11 and in its aftermath. This is not all conspiracy theory stuff, just a push for accountability.

  41. Holy God, people. Seriously? Show me the line that runs from 9/11 through Iraq to Obama. If some man in a suit on September 10th had a plan that involved demolishing the Twin Towers at the same time that passenger planes hit them, and then that would result in blaming the attacks on an innocent guy hiding in Afghanistan who the army would never capture, and then not even really tying it all to a costly, pointless invasion of Iraq, crushing the President’s approval rating, leading to America’s first African-American president, who would then refuse to use the phrase “war on terror” and try to make peace with the moderate Islamic world while at the same time giving us all a universal health-care plan, I would like to shake that guy’s hand. He’s a maniac, but he’s gotta be some kind of genius.

  44. Also, can I get the rest of my insurance money yet? Time to start on that shiny new asbestos-free WTC. And fuck off about building 7 already.

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