Israel Strikes Iran: On Friday, Israel launched military strikes on Iran. It targeted the country’s nuclear sites and killed at least two of Iran’s top military officials. The nuclear sites were those at the middle of Trump’s nuclear negotiations with Iran. Apparently, Trump told Netanyahu not to target the sites since diplomatic proceedings were underway. Oopsie, Netanyahu did so anyway. However, two Israeli officials told Axios that Trump only pretended to resist the strikes in public. In private, he didn’t say shit about not striking Iran. “We had a clear US green light,” an Israeli official said. We are complicit. This marks the most significant military action against Iran since Iran’s 1980s war against Iraq.

After the fact, Trump is now comfortably implicating himself in the military actions. 

 

 

 

These attacks mean Israel had a trove of secret information on Iran. Israel knew where the clandestine nuclear sites were and what the addresses of top Iranian military officials were. Then, Israel struck them with disturbing accuracy. Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, notably a very sane, not tyrannical man, called the strikes a “blatant provocation.”  

The Weather: It’ll be cloudy, but not too cold. 

California Senator Detained at Noem’s Press Conference: Sen. Alex Padilla, D-California, went to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s press briefing in Los Angeles. He tried to ask Noem questions and was forcibly removed from the room by several men, pushed to the ground, and placed in handcuffs. He is no longer detained. The incident made Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. ill. “I just saw something that sickened my stomach. The manhandling of a United States Senator, we need immediate answers to what the hell went on,” Schumer said. Yeah, get to the bottom of it, Chuck. Then roll up your sleeves and write a strongly-worded letter, or whatever it is the Dems do. 

Sen. Alex Padilla was just removed from Kristi Noem’s press conference in Los Angeles (video: Bill Melugin/Fox News)

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— Phil Lewis (@phillewis.bsky.social) June 12, 2025 at 11:09 AM

One survivor on Air India crash: Thursday’s plane crash killed more than 260 people, both passengers and people in the residential area surrounding the crash site. The death toll makes the crash the deadliest aviation disaster in over a decade. Of the 242 people on board, only one person, British citizen Vishwash Kumar Ramesh, survived. He had impact injuries including bruising on his chest, eyes and feet, but was lucid and conscious. He was seated in 11A. 

Boeing bows out: Our local beleaguered airplane manufacturer won’t show face at the Paris Air Show after the deadly Air India crash killed 241 passengers. Boeing executives CEO Kelly Ortberg and head of commercial airplanes Stephanie Pope canceled their appearances. The crashed plane was a Boeing 787.

RIP NPR, PBS: A sad day for acronyms and for public media. The House voted to cut $9.4 billion in already-approved Congressional spending as part of stupid Department of Government Efficiency goals. Within the cuts are significant reductions billion to foreign aid programs and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). That latter provides “money for National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting Service as well as thousands of public radio and television stations around the country,” according to the Associated Press

Broadcast on: KEXP, the beloved Seattle radio station exclusively for cool people, receives $700,000 a year in funding from CPB. To protest Congress’s planned $1.1 billion in cuts to CPB, KEXP is hosting a marathon, 27-hour broadcast. It started on Thursday at 7 a.m. That means, depending on how early you’re reading this, the broadcast is happening right now. The plan is to use the marathon session to raise awareness to the impact of these cuts. 

Are you ready for this weekend? Saturday’s No Kings protests are scheduled nationwide. Seattle has two: One at Cal Anderson Park and one at University of Washington’s Red Square. They’re planned to run from 12pm to 3pm. Be safe out there. And tell Trump to kick rocks. 

Scheduled “No Kings” protests around the country.

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— Orange Dick Tater Hater (@realbiscuitspaw.bsky.social) June 13, 2025 at 3:10 AM

Tug-of-War: A federal judge ordered Donald Trump to return control of the National Guard back to California, a ruling that would go into effect Friday at noon. But, then late Thursday, a federal court of appeals judge blocked that order and will hold a hearing on the matter Tuesday. So, this weekend’s protests in Los Angeles will maintain a military presence. I’m sure that will keep tensions low. 

Protect and Serve? The Brevard county sheriff in Florida warned protesters not to “throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun” at protests this weekend or they will be killed. He rattled off a list of protests actions and their police consequences. Among them? “If you hit one of us, you’re going to the hospital and jail, and most likely get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs we have here,” he said. “If you throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead.” 

ICYMI: I went on KUOW’s Soundside to talk about my investigation into the Washington Midsummer Renaissance Faire! Take a drink every time I say “kind of.” Ugh. 

A delightful long read: The Intelligencer dives into Pete Hegseth and the imbeciles around him. It’s fabulous

A song for your Friday: Another Les Mis banger. Well, aside from Russell Crowe’s part. 

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47 replies on “Slog AM: Israel Strikes Iran, One Person Survives India Air Crash, a No Kings Weekend”

  1. Padilla wasn’t detained because he “tried to ask questions”, he interrupted Noem’s speech and started shouting before the Q&A period, which is why her security detail removed him and handed him off to police for a brief detainment. The officer’s actions were distinctly professional and well within protocol, hardly the height of fascism and a total non-story, and Padilla should probably just be charged with public disturbance.

    Also, Israel is a rogue terrorist state.

  2. Finally! Someone is holding Iran accountable for its obligations under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty since the U.N. and U.S. won’t.

    If only someone had done the same with North Korea.

  3. “Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, notably a very sane, not tyrannical man…”

    What an odd thing to say. I guess if you publicly condemn Israel, TS offers free scrubnrinse services.

  4. So under “right to defend itself” rules Iran, having been attacked, is now fully authorized to invade Israel, kill as many civilians as it sees fit, displace the entire population, and cut off all food and aid deliveries, right?

  5. @1 yes Padilla was verbally disruptive, refused to vacate a portion of a federal building when instructed, and then obstructed officers attempting to detain him. Based on the discourse the past few days I anticipate the vast majority of the commenters here will agree with you that he was properly arrested, and is bringing disrepute on the Senators who peacefully oppose Trump, who should immediately denounce him.

  6. @Nathalie

    Please stop linking to articles that are behind paywalls. I come to this site because it’s one of the last free reads on the internet, not so I can be treated to glorified link aggregation festival. A little blurb of the news with “The story is behind the link” after y’all regurgitate some slop copy does not good reporting make. Do better.

  7. @1 You’re an embarrassment to your fellow Americans. Lick the boot harder, loser. I’m sure if it’s dripping with enough of your saliva, they won’t step on you. That’s how that works, right? Idiot.

  8. @7 if you are too poor or too cheap to access the news, don’t blame the messenger… maybe move to Freeattle and go to a homeless day spa, i.e. the library and get your free read on there.

  9. @5 they already tried to do that via their proxy Hamas and Hezbollah. What happened last night is not great for people of Iran or the world in general but I am constantly perplexed how you and others constantly step in to uphold and defend despotic regimes who kill and abuse their own citizens while exporting terror around the world.

  10. Padilla demonstrated a clear understanding of meaningful civil disobedience — engaging in a very public act of defiance knowing that it is likely to end with him in handcuffs, and in the process drawing attention to the injustice of the Administration’s actions and methods. He is in effect saying “if this is how they treat a sitting Senator while the cameras are rolling, what do you think they have in store for you?”

  11. @5

    Yes Israel and Iran have been fighting a proxy war for a few years now and Iran’s proxies Hamas and Hezbollah have routinely attacked Israel and Israeli civilians.

    Fortunately Israel has effectively neutered the military forces of Hamas, Hezbollah, and now Iran.

    I’m sure no one will publicly thank Israel but the governments in Paris, Rome, Berlin, Cairo, and Riyadh are currently extremely grateful even if they won’t publicly admit it.

  12. @8 Oh no, anything but “bootlicker”. People are absolutely convinced they win every disagreement and their opponent will wither if they just say bootlicker. The lamest insult online, repeated a billion times. No need to figure out what really happened in a situation, use evidence or reason. You can just say bootlicker.

  13. Israel had the guts to do what many other countries want to do but couldn’t due to the backlash they would receive. Glad they’re on our side!

  14. @4, Would you prefer a nuclear armed Iran joining the ranks of a nuclear armed North Korea.

    If no nation or international body will forcefully enforce the NPT, then what stops every nation on earth from eventually possessing nuclear weapons? Nothing.

  15. @7, Nothing is free. Someone is paying for it.

    Since the internet has made it possible to target specific consumers with specific products and services of unique interest to specific consumers, advertisers no longer need to take out massive ads that everyone is exposed to, to reach the 5% of the ad readers actually interested in their product or service. So advertisers don’t pay news sites money to hire people to pay for content.

    Noisy Creek, which owns The Stranger, makes its money from Everout, with is entertainment review stories, is where restaurants, music venues, etc. advertise to find diners and concert goers. Bold Type Tickets takes a cut of ticket purchase prices for selling tickets for concerts and other ticketed events.

    The non-entertainment writers at The Stranger will be gone soon enough. Noisy Creek will eventually stop carrying non-revenue generating writers.

    If you want news, you need to pay for a subscription, or subscriptions, somewhere to fund the salaries of humans that look for news and write it up.

  16. @10 my comment was sarcastic I don’t think countries “right to exist” is a justification to commit atrocities, I’m not a sociopath

  17. @5, You are correct. Iran could fight Israel until Israel surrenders, is obliterated, or just decides its not worth the cost in Iranian blood and treasure.

    Of course you can make the same argument for Israel in this case. Iran has already been fighting Israel and has stated it will wipe out Israel given the chance. So that would make Israel’s attack to take out Iran’s nuclear enrichment, before it becomes weaponized defensive.

    Article 51 of the U.N. Charter is alive and well.

    Of course if the U.N. wants to determine that Israel or Iran is the primary aggressor here and decide to stop either from acting, then the U.N. needs a big enough military to stop them.

    If you are going to have binding principles (laws) in a nation or internationally, then someone has to have the force available to enforce those laws when humans use their freewill to not comply with those laws.

    The fact of the matter is that Iran hasn’t given a shit about whether they were legally justified or not in attacking Israel or other countries and causes they don’t like. The only thing that has restrained them is lack of means, or the price in blood and treasure being too high.

  18. @11 ok sure, but in the video you can clearly see him “assaulting” the man in a black shirt. That type of violent protest detracts from the message of the vast majority of peaceful Senators and plays right into Trump’s hands. He needs to be thinking about helping a Democrat win the Presidential election in 3.5 years not protecting his community right now.

    Or so I hear.

  19. @16 Senate Republicans are also marginally more sane, and public radio cuts will affect rural areas more than cities, who can afford to absorb the blow. Murkowski will be a NO vote for sure.

  20. @23, They need a paywall for this as well, so that those that consume the content that Noisy Creek pays writers to produce, pay for that content.

    No more free rides for @7 (or anyone else). You read content, you pay for the cost of the content. Nothing in life is free.

  21. @13 Funny, Bootlicker: ““the lamest insult online, repeated a billion times.” Funny, no one’s ever called me one of those, not even once out of all those billion times. Maybe..there’s a reason it shows up so frequently in answer to your commentary? If the boot fits….

  22. @1, Yeah, but Padilla wouldn’t have gotten nearly as much press if he’d just asked questions during the Q&A……and I’m not sure he wasn’t right/smart to do it the way he did.

    @1, “Also, Israel is a rogue terrorist state…………”

    (sigh) Yeah but they’re OUR rogue terrorist state. Do you really think Iran could go 80 years without using an atomic bomb the way WE have?

    @4, If they’d just not break any more windows they’d be OK.

    @5, “……is now fully authorized to invade Israel,……..”

    There’s a line that says, “Wisdom is justified by her deeds.” I would argue that as we were right to drop the bomb on Japan (I would argue), horrible as it was, Israel is right re Iran. History will approve, grudgingly or otherwise (I would argue). And the justification of the deed is in the fact that our bomb ended the war. And Iran will not invade Israel because they can’t successfully do it. Or they will get their buts kicked if they do…..and their own people (I would argue) are as sick of the religious nuts who run their country as we are sick of the partisan nuts running our country (I would argue). THAT’S the justification for the thing. In real life, right or wrong is a complicated thing. But if the act makes things run better (I would argue), that’s at least part of what makes the thing ‘right’. Oh. Sarcasm……..Never mind.

    @7,@10,@12,@13,@14,@17, Amen & Amen!!

    @9, ………..and the horse you rode in on!

    @18, You have my sympathies. Unfortunately, King Donald makes Chess suck even worse.

    @19, Yeah you’re right. And I believe that Musk, Bezos, Zuck, and all the others really have earned their money through dint of struggle & hard work. I also believe in Santa & the Tooth Fairy.

    Go to the library’s website & try to use the NYTimes reference resource. You can get articles for free (after you pay your taxes for the library which Trump is getting rid of) but the NYT interface is really terrible & it’s almost impossible to easily find anything.

    @21, I can never figure out the UN’s stances on Israel. It usually looks like nothing but Antisemitism. But I’ve never really been able to figure it out completely.

  23. @25, Boy have you got some balls on you! You’ve never skated?? You’ve never gotten away with something?? You’ve never gotten a freebie??

    Look at your soul once in a while. You’re getting some freebies there.

    “He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger for ever.

    He does not deal with us according to our sins, nor requite us according to our iniquities.”

  24. @27 “I would argue that as we were right to drop the bomb on Japan (I would argue), horrible as it was, Israel is right re Iran”

    It’s more like, if Israel’s attack on Iran is justified, Japan would have been justified in blowing up Oak Ridge and assassinating Oppenheimer et al to prevent the US getting nukes. Or the Arab world would be justified in nuking Tel Aviv to end protracted war with a brutal enemy nation.

    Alternatively you can reduce it to “US and allies good, others bad” which is transparently what many here do.

  25. @20, Liam: “I’m a sociopath, NOT a psychopath. They explained it to us in therapy.”

    Francis: “What’s the difference?”

    Liam: “……………….I dunno. It’s tough.”

    – The Guard

  26. @30, And (I would argue) that as shitty as some of the things we do here in the US are, on balance, we are a just nation. And we have been a good thing for the world. Probably not by much, but still…..

  27. @27, Minor historical quibble with, “And the justification of the deed is in the fact that our bomb ended the war.”

    After the fact analysis indicates that the invasion of Manchuria and the absolute collapse of their armies before the Soviets was the deciding factor for the Japanese, not the two atomic bombs.

    That does not mean that dropping those bombs was not justified. We had know way of knowing that the Japanese correctly estimated that we only had enough enriched material and capacity for enrichment for one to three more bombs over the next twelve months and they were prepared to endure those bombs.

    More significantly, by the Saipan (and the later Okinawa) ratios calculated by the U.S., the Japanese were losing nine civilians per American casualty in our seaborne invasions, with nearly 100% of Japanese casualties being dead, not wounded. The Japanese either militarized the civilians or brainwashed them into thinking surrender would be being tortured and raped to death. Civilians didn’t surrender as a rule.

    We estimated 600,000 casualties to invade the Japanese Home Islands. That is a butcher’s bill of 5.4 million Japanese. So it was actually humane to try and bomb the Japanese into submission, atomically and otherwise, rather than invade.

    Knowing what the knew at the time, the atomic bomb drops on Japan, were the most moral, of really crappy options; however, they did not end the war in the Pacific. The Soviets were actually the final straw. Thanks Joe.

  28. @30, Japan would have been fully justified to do as you suggest.

    As for the Arab world doing as you suggest, its why Israel has nukes. They have insured it will cost the Arab World Riyadh, Damascus, and Cairo at a minimum to do that.

    There is nothing, and has been nothing, stopping the Arabs from pushing Israel into the Mediterranean. There are 481.7 million Arabs in the countries of the Arab League.

    There are 9.8 million Israelis.

    Even with Israel’s nukes, they will run out of bombs and bullets to mow Arabs down long before the human waves of Arabs stop coming.

    In humanistic terms, Israel has made the cost higher than all but a few small groups of Arabs are willing to pay. Hamas is one of those Arab groups prepared to suffer annihilation, if that would get the infidels out of Palestine, but it, and a few groups like them, are the exception, not the rule. The Arabs have looked at the cost and decided what it would take to win is more than they are willing to pay.

    If you want to look at it metaphysically, the existence of Israel is a miracle perpetrated by the Jew’s all powerful God.

  29. @30

    “ Japan would have been justified in blowing up Oak Ridge and assassinating Oppenheimer et al to prevent the US getting nukes”

    Yep pretty much.

    Are you just now realizing that war really is Hell?

    It is a thing to be avoided.

    Japan started the war. At the time some of their highest ranking commanders thought Pearl was a mistake and that they would never be able to defeat the United States.

  30. @35, They never intended to defeat the United States. They falsely believed that the U.S. would not be willing to pay the cost to defeat Japan.

    There strategy, until the Soviets came in, was to make the cost in blood and treasure so high for the U.S. that the U.S. would declare victory and go home.

    At the time of Pearl Harbor, they believed that the American threshold for blood and treasure loss was so low, that they would accept the conquest of the oil resources of SE Asia as fait accompli. That turned out to be a false understanding that sealed Japan’s fate.

    When did Japan lose the war? The moment they attacked Pearl Harbor. It would take time, but once that occurred the Japanese loss was certain. Even if they had wiped out our carriers and occupied Midway, it would have delayed the U.S. advance across the Pacific by no more than 18 months. Probably more like 6 months.

  31. “These attacks mean Israel had a trove of secret information on Iran. Israel knew where the clandestine nuclear sites were and what the addresses of top Iranian military officials were.”

    Yeah, it’s almost like Iran has a lot of persons who don’t want their country to remain a violently misogynistic theocracy.

  32. @25 i like how you seamlessly pivot from “the stranger will be shutting down soon” to “the stranger will be going behind a paywall soon” as though no one will notice you’re pulling all of this directly out of your anus

  33. @38, One or the other. It’s not going to keep paying salaries of writers who’s writing doesn’t attract the revenue required to pay their salaries and other compensation. News desserts is a real thing across much of the US.

    127 newspapers closed in 2024 in the U.S. 3,300 since 2005. They either go behind a paywall, fold, or go behind a paywall and discover enough people won’t pay for the content and then fold. It’s the trend. The trend has hit hardest in alt weeklies and rural newspapers; although metro newspapers have not been immune.

    Even WaPo, the LA Times, and other major news outlets lose a little money every year in a slow drip, drip, drip, or barely break-even after slashing staffs and news story volume. Those breaking-even have 1/2 or less of their former writer headcount.

    The Stranger and Noisy Creek discussed quite openly in these pages where the money was in the “property” being acquired by Noisy Creek. It’s in Everout and Bold Type Tickets. Readers looking for entertainment reviews and entertainment reporting attract restaurant and entertainment venue advertising dollars that produce a profit. Being a ticket vendor for entertainment events is profitable.

    The Stranger, like other print outlets, loses money on Charles, Vivian, Hannah, and Natalie, et. al. writing the SLOG and other news/commentary. It’s exceedingly difficult to get people and advertisers to pay the costs of people to write news and opinion narrative.

  34. @40, And what does the print contain? Mostly entertainment.

    What they will shut down is SLOG and news/opinion content. Shed the “divisions” of The Stranger that lose money, and reinforce the “divisions” that are profitable. Business 101.

    The Stranger isn’t a mission-driven non-profit with a stable of government grants and regular donors. It is owned by investors.

    The Alt Weeklies that have been killed in markets as big as ours or bigger. Those include the Boston Phoenix, San Francisco Bay Guardian, and Philadelphia City Paper.

    Those that have survived, have or developed sources of revenue that was unrelated to news reporting and commentary on the news, while they have shrunk the headcount of writers, particularly writers of news and opinion.

    All its going to take is the closely held private owners group waking up one day and deciding it takes too much effort for the paltry returns they are getting, and a decision to slash the expenses that don’t generate revenue, that cut into the returns. There will be some economic downturn (probable under Trump, but inevitable no matter who is in the WH), and consumers cut entertainment spending first. Tech or entertainment consumption preferences will change such that entertainment promotion and ticket sales no longer require Everout and Bold Type Tickets.

  35. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/jul/30/after-33-years-of-feisty-4-letter-coverage-seattle/

    reporting at the time of the sale said the paper was revenue positive after a brief pandemic slump

    makes no mention of the blog, only the reporting side, but there is nothing here to justify a subscription and slog could easily sustain itself through ad clicks alone considering most of the content takes minimal effort to produce, also it promotes the paper so it can be an indirect source of revenue for the publisher even if it’s not self-sustaining, though i suspect any ad revenue would be equal to or greater than the amount of employee time it takes to write and post a round up of the morning news

    in any case there is no evidence to suggest noisy creek is bleeding money for hosting a blog with one or 2 posts a day with no original reporting or exclusive content but please don’t let that stop you from speaking authoritatively on a topic where you know nothing more than anyone else

  36. @12, @14: Israel isn’t merely trying to remove Iran’s nuclear capability, but also to decaptitate Iran’s theocratic regime, as it decapitated first Hamas, and then Hezbollah:

    ‘The commander of Iran’s feared Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami, boasted Thursday that his country was ready to handle any Israeli attack. “We are fully prepared for any scenario, under any circumstances,” he said.

    ‘By dawn Friday, he was dead, killed in what is shaping up to be a broad Israeli air campaign aimed not only at destroying Iran’s capacity to build nuclear weapons but to ensure that the country is hobbled politically and militarily.

    ‘It is an approach similar to the one Israel has employed to devastating effect against Hamas and Hezbollah, where covert actions swiftly transition to high-power strikes with sophisticated weaponry.

    ‘In the attack’s first hours, Israel said it killed top military leaders—including senior members of the Revolutionary Guard and its air force—in an effort to disrupt Iran’s chain of command, isolate Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and make it harder for Iran to defend itself from further attacks.’

    (https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israels-attacks-hit-more-than-irans-nuclear-program-they-are-aimed-at-hobbling-tehran-307cabf9?mod=WTRN_pos2)

    At the very moment Hamas’ paragliders started mowing down defenseless Israeli civilians on 10/7, Hamas was at full strength, Hezbollah owned all of southern Lebanon, Iran sent weapons overland to Hezbollah with the complicity of the Assad regime in Syria, and Tehran had a robust military.

    Someday, the rest of that region will learn the lesson that Egypt and Jordan learned long ago. Until then, we will continue to see the results of not learning.

  37. @42, The last two reporters they hired, which aren’t writing material for Everyout or running Bold Type Tickets, were listed at $70,000. Add another 30% for the cost of benefits and that’s $91,000 each. But it’s not just two reporters, it’s 3 or 4 and an editor. So half a million dollars annually.

    But Everout, with Seling and some freelancers, writing many fewer pieces, is what generates ads and ad revenue. Bold Type Tickets generates the revenue.

    So if you could drop $500k a year in expenses, without dropping $500k in revenue, wouldn’t you? Even if you could drop $500k in expenses, and lose $400,000 in revenue, you would still be ahead.

    Print news journalism isn’t selling enough ads anywhere to crack the nut. The print news that is left, has managed to survive, at a fraction of its former reporter and editor headcount, by shifting to paywalls and subscription revenue.

    So you are correct that The Stranger isn’t hemorrhaging cash overall; however, if you look at it on a function-by-function basis, the non-arts/entertainment function is. So there is nothing to stop the ownership group from saying we would rather have $500,000, than subsidize news and opinion functions that lose money with the profitable part of the business.

    Why have they gone back to print recently? You can’t run ad blocking software off-line.

    People will pick-up a print copy to leave it on the counter or table to reference throughout the weeks as a guide to pick from if they get a hit on a dating website or encounter a free evening.

    So yes, the news and opinion function has a $500,000 target on its back.

    Print news and opinion has a target on its back everywhere it still exists because advertising there isn’t the only game in town anymore. Among all the options, it produces the fewest customers and lowest sales per ad-buy.

    Classified ad revenue, which used to be the largest source of ad revenue, got replaced by Craigslist, which is free. 1/4 and 1/2 page ads got replaced by social media ads that target only the demographic that wants a particular product or service.

    There still is a place where print advertising works. Entertainment. People seeking entertainment want a one stop site or publication where every concert, comedy club, theater and music venue lists what there is to do.

    Nobody want to get a hit on a dating website from someone who likes live music and then have to click on every music venue website to see what’s available this week, or hope their google search parameters are both tight enough to screen out the irrelevant, while not excluding what they want.

    There is still a place for a trusted go-to publication with all the local, or enough of the critical mass of the local options, to get them out for entertainment they want to see. E.g. Everout. Once they find the entertainment they will go to, then they have to get tickets.

  38. I’m not reading all that but you’ve been saying the stranger is on its way out for years and you’ve been wrong the whole time

  39. @45, Nope, just the news and opinion writing, which is nothing but a drain on profits from the entertainment writing.

    Why end what actually makes them good money, which is Everout and Bold Type Tickets?

  40. Thirteen12

    seems to have unexpectedly silenced by the broad agreement with what he thought were “gotcha arguments” that t it would have been some sort of war crime for Japan to have targeted Oak Ridge, TN and to attempt to assassinate Oppenheimer.

    He also apparently didn’t expect agreement that Iran’s missile and other attacks on Israel in response to Israeli airstrikes on Iran was no war crime either.

    Thirteen12, war is the failure of some rules-based method of resolving conflict. It is the failure of more civilized and humane means of resolving conflict.

    War is the overwhelming application of violence to end the means or will of your opponent to resist your will.

    “War is the continuation of policy with other means.” – Von Clausewitz

    War is Nietzsche’s, “will to power,” by the most violent means.

    War is unchanging and unalterable human nature at its worst extreme.

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