A street along the Gulf Coast in Florida. Credit: Joe Raedle / GETTY

Mystery fireworks strike again:ย A private firework show in Commencement Bay sent fireworks caterwauling through the September sky for around 20 minutes. Nobody knows who set off the fireworks. To make things weirder, this mystery private firework show happened around the same time and around the same place last year. According to the Seattle Times, these sorts of mystery shows have been happening like this since 1998. The true source of the fireworks remain a mystery. However, we know whoever bankrolled this needs access to wads of cash since fireworks shows consistently cost around $2,000 per minute. As the Times has tried to find the firework funder, they’ve unearthed layers of shell companies, connections to millionaires and a bunch of luxury yachts. Their best guess is the funder is a mysterious Microsoft billionaire.

License plate shortage: More than half of Washington counties are out of stock of standard embossed license plates and there’s a six-week lag for more. Why? The equipment in the prisons where incarcerated people make our license plates is aging. The Department of Licensing is now weighing whether or not it should use non-embossed plates.ย 

A little quake:ย Did you feel a shake or two on Sunday morning? Blame it on the 3.2 magnitude earthquake that hit the Bremerton area.ย 

Debates tomorrow! On Tuesday,ย couch-fuckingย ย  America’s slimy step-uncle, JD Vance, will square off against America’s new dad, Tim Walz. But, wait, there’s more! Stay tuned after the debate to watch the Seattle City Council Position 8 candidates debate moderated by Seattle Nice podcast hosts Erica C. Barnett, Sandeep Kaushik, and David Hyde. You can watch Council Member Tanya Woo try to remember what it is she believes in while she debates against progressive challenger Alexis Mercedes Rinck.

The weather:ย Sunny and 65 today. Enjoy.ย 

Seattle Animal Shelter director resigns:ย The Seattle Animal Shelter has gone to the dogs! That’s basically what director Esteban Rodriguez said in a letter announcing his resignation last week. Rodriguez blamed his departure on funding shortage frustrations, inadequate facilities, and a lack of internal support. Earlier this year, Cascade PBS exposed how over 20 current and former shelter workers and volunteers feared retaliation from Rodriguez and experienced communication issues as well as safety returns. Rodriguez denied these claims.

By order of the chief:ย If you get pulled over by a cop in a Geno Smith jersey today, then do not panic.ย 

Gun gate:ย Hey, have you seen 23 guns lying around? The Office of the Washington State Auditor is looking for them. The Seattle Police Department reported these guns missing in August. The catch is that nobody has seen the guns since 2017.ย 

Israel bombs residential area, kills Hezbollah leader: Israel laid siege on a Beirut suburb Friday with an “overwhelming air raid” using munitions and likely US-made bombs. The raid wounded at least 108 people and killed 11, including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave the go-ahead to bomb the secret underground complex where Nasrallah was from. Hezbollah in turn issued a defiant statement against Israel. Now, Israel says it will launch a ground invasion into Lebanon.ย 

110 dead from Hurricane Helene: The destruction in the wake of Hurricane Helene is horrific. Communities in Florida where the hurricane first hit are covered in sand and debris, but the real devastation came from the rains a downgraded Helene dumped on the Carolinas and Tennessee. Towns in the mountainous regions of North Carolina are under water. Roads to and from North Carolina towns have been destroyed or are inaccessible. In Tennessee, rescue teams scooped up dozens of hospital workers and patients on the hospital roof as flood waters climbed higher and higher. At least 110 people are dead as of Monday morning. Officials say that toll will likely climb, as many remain missing and as supplies dwindle. This is a climate change nightmare realized. And, more storms brewing stronger and stronger in the hotter and hotter Atlantic ocean are coming. Forecasters say a new tropical depression could become a strong hurricane later this week.ย 

Devastation in North Carolina:ย The small, mountain town of Asheville, North Carolina was underwater, a mishmash of toppled trees and flooded rivers. Around 600 people in the area are missing. Those left in town are scrambling to find resources. The only WiFi is at the public library. The few open stores are only accepting cash, so the ATM line is an hour long. Gas stores are low. Meanwhile, the state is trying to get supplies in, but the roads are a mess.ย 

We know a woman: The GOP’s newest ad strategy is to assure voters that the party’s candidates know women. Sometimes these women are also in their lives! They love these women and would not make legislation that takes away their rights to their own bodies! Wait, no, they wouldn’t go that far. The New York Times studied this new phenomenon in ads for conservative candidates. Many are using their wives and daughters as props and mouthpieces. In an election where abortion is on the ballot, these candidates feel they must appeal to other women. One guy, Derrick Anderson, who is running for a seat in Virginiaโ€™s 7th District, posted footage of himself with a woman and three young girls who appear to be his wife and children. Nope, those are his friend’s wife and children. Anderson actually lives alone, sans wife and daughters.ย 

Astronauts bum a ride … in February: The two astronauts stranded in space since June have a way home. The SpaceX capsule sent to bring them home docked at the International Space Station where they’ve been stuck. Unfortunately, that capsule won’t be returning to earth until February. Just a few more months to wait!ย 

RIP Kris Kristofferson:ย The country singer and songwriter died on Saturday. He was 88.ย 

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89 replies on “Slog AM: Mystery Firework Show Strikes Again, SPD Lost 23 Guns, Hurricane Helene Death Toll Up to 110”

  1. How is that sweet talking of Netanyahu to de-escalate working out for you all?

    I hope the warmongers in our midst are enlisting to go fight Bibi’s genocidal wars.

  2. Four ways climate change likely made Hurricane Helene worse

    Climate change makes the strongest hurricanes stronger, increases rainfall, increases storm surge damage through sea level rise, and increases the probability of rapid intensification events.

    Heleneโ€™s landfall gives the U.S. a record eight Cat 4 or Cat 5 Atlantic hurricane landfalls in the past eight years (2017-2024), seven of them being continental U.S. landfalls. Thatโ€™s as many Cat 4 and 5 landfalls as occurred in the prior 57 years. The only comparable beating the U.S. has taken from Category 4 and 5 landfalling hurricanes occurred in the six years from 1945 to 1950, when five Category 4 hurricanes hit South Florida.

    https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/09/four-ways-climate-change-likely-made-hurricane-helene-worse/

  3. @3: โ€œHow is that sweet talking of Netanyahu to de-escalate working out for you all?โ€

    Itโ€™s working out just peachy now that Hassan Nasrallah has been schwacked! Just think, itโ€™s a beautiful morning in Seattle, and Hassan Nasrallah is dead! ๐ŸŒˆโ˜€๏ธ

    Whatโ€™s up with you? Still observing the Supreme Leaderโ€™s three days of mourning? ๐Ÿ˜

  4. @3

    And I hope the pro-Hamas crowd is, at the very least donating every spare cent to relief efforts in Gaza. (I wonโ€™t hold my breathe)

    If they cared as much as they claim to, theyโ€™d already be there working with aid organizations.

  5. NOBODY FIRED. NOBODY DISCIPLINED. Taxpayers out $25 million. Will this make Ashely’s Bad Apples column?

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/wa-to-pay-25-million-in-evergreen-students-carbon-monoxide-death/

    Employees negligently ignored and disconnected a f*ing carbon monoxide alarm and told residents to go back into the Evergreen supplied housing.

    That would require Ashley looking at issues in a broader context and totality. Nope, ain’t gonna happen.

  6. “…Netanyahu gave the go-ahead to bomb the secret underground complex where Nasrallah was from”?

    He grew up in a secret underground complex?

  7. @4, By the U.N.’s own climate model, if the world magically went carbon neutral tomorrow, the planet will be 1/3 of 1 degree cooler, 76 years from now.

    We can’t be carbon neutral tomorrow. Probably not even if 76 years. Closer, perhaps, but not neutral.

    Since you won’t likely be alive to experience the hardly noticeable effects of 1/3 of 1 degree less temperature in 76 years, and likely wouldn’t notice much of a difference even if you were, what is the moral imperative to reduce emissions, at very noticeable impacts on you, and poor people in particular, today in hugely higher energy and other costs?

    And I am not denying human caused climate change, or suggesting doing nothing. I am asking what the moral imperative is to address something that will hurt you now, and perhaps, maybe benefit others that may come after you are long dead?

  8. It looks like the bad apples column is about police officers who are actively threatening public safety, not negligent facilities workers who fail to follow building code. Wouldnโ€™t make any sense to cover that in a column about a completely different problem.

  9. Horrific floods.

    Great flood pic!

    Ironically, we’re gon-

    na need Bigger Pickups.

    @2 — “I hope the

    warmongers in our midst are

    enlisting to go fight Bibi’s genocidal wars.”

    they,

    like AIPAC,

    prefer to Work

    from Home. it’s a

    much Easier commute.

  10. @6: “And I hope the pro-Hamas crowd is, at the very least donating every spare cent to relief efforts in Gaza. … If they cared as much as they claim to, theyโ€™d already be there working with aid organizations.”

    You know what’s funny, I actually have worked in a Palestinian refugee camp, and I’m on here like, “Kill the goddamn terrorists as fast as humanly possible! Hit them hard and don’t let up!”

  11. Your daily reminder that Hamas does not give a single solitary fuck about the Palestinian people and is just as complicit in everything going on as Israel is. Hamas is not, and will never be, the “good guys.”

  12. @12

    sorry!

    that quote

    was from @4.

    “… he was a really horrible relentless

    terrorist who killed thousands.”

    –@2

    yeah.

    that’s just

    bibi being bibi.

    let the

    Nuremberg Trials

    begin. post fucking Haste.

  13. @4 and @10 – So why isn’t there more outrage from the left over cryptocurrency and blockchain mining and its huge use of water and electricity? Those industries have their supporters both in the establishment right and the establishment left. The villains are really not those of us buying gas powered cars and trucks.

  14. “Kill the goddamn terrorists

    as fast as humanly possible!

    Hit them hard and don’t let up!”

    –@6

    you wanna Nuke

    Israel? sure ya

    wanna Go

    there?

    oh, right —

    Welcome to

    Armageddon.

  15. @11, “Actively threatening”. What she describes hardly fits the bill of actively threatening.

    How is disconnecting carbon monoxide alarms and sending people back into a gas filled house, not actively threatening?

    Her refrain is nobody got fired, disciplined, or the discipline was inadequate. What should the discipline be for actively sending people into a gas chamber to die and costing $25 million.

    Maybe employees aren’t fired or disciplined, not because they are cops, but because they are public employees and public employees under the 14th and 5th Amendments aren’t “at will” employees that can be fired for any (non-racial, non-disability) reason, or no reason at all, such as in the private sector? Disciplining and firing public employees is the issue, not disciplining particular classes of employees.

    As long as public employees use the power of being the landlord to kill, rather than some act or omission while enforcing the law, it’s O.K. The dead are somehow less dead. $25 million wasn’t taken from providing life changing and life extending higher education to citizens. Got it.

  16. @19: To be fair, climate change was utterly rampant long before cryptocurrency was invented. People who buy gas-powered cars and trucks are not INDIVIDUALLY the villains, but COLLECTIVELY gas-powered transportation emits vastly more climate-changing carbon than crypto does. (Don’t blame this individual villain, though, I drive a Tesla! ๐Ÿ˜„)

    And to be even fairer, just about environmental organization in America is up in arms about crypto. It’s not like these people are asleep at the switch.

  17. @21

    “How is disconnecting carbon monoxide alarms

    and sending people back into a gas filled

    house, not actively threatening?”

    and

    “What should the discipline be

    for actively sending people

    into a gas chamber to die

    and costing $25 million.”

    once again:

    Nuremberg Trials.

    and Popcorn. LOTS of it.

  18. @23, Your Tesla is not carbon neutral. It’s better than an IC car, but its not carbon neutral. It took carbon to mine the components in the batteries, carbon to manufacture the batteries and car, carbon to deliver the materials, and carbon for some of the electrical charging. It creates a toxic disposal problem with those batteries.

    All of our consumption choices have carbon consequences. There isn’t any free lunch.

  19. 21, dude, itโ€™s a column about bad cops. Thatโ€™s the theme. I understand this makes you cry but if you want to read a column about negligent government staffers you can write it yourself, though it sounds like these guys are getting their due anyway. Unlike the menaces to public safety Ashley covers.

  20. @18

    Did my time in uniform 30 years ago.

    Israel and Hamas can keep killing each other until there is no one left on either side.

    Iโ€™m not a fan of either.

  21. Somebody should compile a list of the multimillionaires / billionaires living near Commencement Bay who have birthdays on the date of the annual guerilla fireworks show.

  22. from Democracy Now:

    โ€œIsraelโ€™s

    Barbaric Glee over

    Nasrallahโ€™s Assassination Is

    a New Low for Israeli Societyโ€

    –Gideon Levy

    Amy Goodman: You have Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, ascending the podium at the U.N. General Assembly. Apparently right after, he gave the go-ahead for the assassination of Nasrallah.

    Right before he came up on the podium, dozens of world leaders walked out. If you can talk about the significance of this decision and then the bombing of Yemen and, of course, the continuation of the assault on Gaza?

    Gideon Levy: You know, Amy, listening to your program is enough. Israel is shooting here, and Israel is assassinating there, and Israel is bombing here, and Israel is bombing there. Where are we aiming to? I mean, all those operations might be [inaudible], to them, are justified. But what comes next?

    This thought that Israel can solve everything by force and that war is always the first answer for everything must change, because, otherwise, we will really find ourselves one day totally lonely in the world.

    Even the United States, which supports Israel still blindly and automatically โ€” and I must emphasize on your show that the United States is a full partner for everything that Israel is doing in the last year, including the massacre in Gaza โ€” even the United States will wake up one day. And then what?

    oodles More on the

    Genocidal War YOUR*

    Tax Dollarsโ€™re paying for:

    https://www.democracynow.org/2024/9/30/israel_assassinates_hezbollah_leader_nasrallah

    โ€œAnd then What?โ€

    ah

    maybe

    Armaegeddon?

    *Gleefully!

  23. @10- what you probably should be asking is, how much warmer will the planet be in 76 years if we donโ€™t go carbon neutral now? The answer is a bunch. And you wonโ€™t like it. Also, a big part of the reason your Tesla is not carbon neutral is that the power used to power the factories that are making it is still coming from fossil fuels. Once that system is electrified and working on renewable energy, the car, like everything else we produce, will be one hell of a lot closer to carbon neutral.

  24. Also, all of these flooding pictures from Florida have to be fake news. We all know thereโ€™s no climate change in red states. I bet George Soros paid some illegal immigrants to photoshop pictures from Bangladesh to look like Florida.

  25. @27: “Did my time in uniform 30 years ago. Israel and Hamas can keep killing each other until there is no one left on either side.”

    My, aren’t you the enfant terrible of the internet! ๐Ÿคช

  26. “We all know thereโ€™s

    no climate change

    in red states.”

    –@dvs

    them

    Geniuses

    Outlawed it

    so they oughtta

    be Fine (didja see

    Desantos’ thigh-high

    Global Warming-hedging

    beautiful White Boots? Sweet!).

  27. @26, My point exactly.

    The Stranger, selectively, and inconsistently, only cares about your tax dollars and mine being paid out because of bad decisions by public employees doing law enforcement. It only cares when the dead are killed by public safety employees, not any of the other public employees, even though the dollars are just as green, and the citizens are just as dead at the hands of state power.

    People are just as dead, and the dollars just as green, but in your mind, and Ashley’s, other public employees that kill are less of a menace.

    @31, According to the U.N.’s own model, exactly 1/3 of 1 degree warmer. That isn’t nothing, and shouldn’t be ignored, but at what cost to human life. Driving up costs of energy, and slowing the proliferation of cheap, reliable electricity to the developing world, shortens life spans and kills, in the here and now.

  28. ‘Israel laid siege on a Beirut suburb Friday with an “overwhelming air raid” using munitions and likely US-made bombs.’

    A siege consists of circling an area (usually a fortress or city) with troops, preventing all entry and exit, and attempting to starve the inhabitants into surrendering. As Israel has no troops on the ground in Lebanon, I believe the hyperbolic statement the Stranger tried to make here was “laid waste to,” although that would also be wrong. Israel used a series of bunker-buster bombs to penetrate the hardened shelter Hezbollah had built underneath a residential neighborhood. Hezbollah’s use of the Lebanese civilians in that neighborhood as human shields made those civilians into legitimate military targets, and Hezbollah’s use of hardened shelter made the Israeli use of force proportionate. Please go complain to Hezbollah about these civilian deaths.

    If the Israelis used US-supplied bombs to take out the leaders of Hezbollah, then I consider that my tax money well spent.

  29. @36:

    The problem with “tak(ing) out the leaders of Hezbollah” is that as soon as we take out one, someone else is appointed as the new leader, and then we have to take THEM out too.

    Lather, rinse, repeat ad infinitum – it just never ends, and meanwhile the pile of civilian “collateral damage” on both sides keeps getting higher and higher and higher…

  30. @33

    Well then.

    Youโ€™ve really put me in my place havenโ€™t you?

    Donโ€™t know if Iโ€™ll ever be able to recover from a taunting such as that.

    On the other hand, that you give my words enough thought to be bothered by them is touching.

    Iโ€™ll do my best to return the favor sometime.

  31. … and now

    We’re sending

    not just Precious

    Treasure but Also

    Troops. just to keep

    one mf outta Prison?

    our money

    well spent

    let the Deaths

    spiral, baby.

  32. @35: “According to the U.N.’s own model, exactly 1/3 of 1 degree warmer.”

    Ha ha ha! The Slog has recently seen a rash of commenters unable to successfully read UN documents, but you have achieved a new height in misapprehension. Here is a dumbed-down summary straight from the UN, the figure you want is Table SPM.1 on page 14, and the column you want is “Long term, 2081โ€“2100”:

    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature

    Climate change! It’s a whole thing! You might wanna read up on it!

  33. 35 itโ€™s a column specifically about the police, presumably because they are a specific subset of public employees who are free to terrorize and kill the public with little to no fear of losing their job or facing justice. Tax dollars arenโ€™t much of a concern when people donโ€™t face justice or excessive civil payouts for reasons that should not require explanation.

    If your hobbyhorse is negligent bus drivers or maintenance workers feel free to start a blog or something.

  34. “Around 600 people in the area are missing. Those left in town are scrambling to find resources. The only WiFi is at the public library. The few open stores are only accepting cash, so the ATM line is an hour long. Gas stores are low. Meanwhile, the state is trying to get supplies in, but the roads are a mess. “

    who needs

    fucking Armageddon?

    we’ve got Big Oil! drill, bitches.

    fucking

    Drill.

    Earthlings’ve

    put the Wrong People

    in Charge whilst Money Rules.

    the Universe’ll

    use US as the Textbook

    for How to Destroy a Biosphere.

    meanwhile, gleeful

    Cockroaches

    Rejoice.

  35. @37: The last leader of Hezbollah was in that position for decades. It will take awhile for them to find someone else, and maybe the civilians in the north of Israel can return to their homes.

    Perhaps Iran can have another revolution, throw the theocrats out of power, stop beating women at home, and stop funding terrorists abroad? That would probably work better than our current method, yes. But for now, there are pagers, walkie-talkies, and bunker-busters.

  36. Terrorist sympathizers and anti-semites to my left! Climate deniers and holster-sniffers to my right! What the hell kind of website is this! ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€

  37. UN General Assembly demands Israel end โ€˜unlawful presenceโ€™ in Occupied Palestinian Territory

    With a recorded vote of 124 nations in favour, 14 against, and 43 abstentions, the resolution calls for Israel to comply with international law and withdraw its military forces, immediately cease all new settlement activity, evacuate all settlers from occupied land, and dismantle parts of the separation wall it constructed inside the occupied West Bank.

    The General Assembly further demanded that Israel return land and other โ€œimmovable propertyโ€, as well as all assets seized since the occupation began in 1967, and all cultural property and assets taken from Palestinians and Palestinian institutions.

    The resolution also demands Israel allow all Palestinians displaced during the occupation to return to their place of origin and make reparation for the damage caused by its occupation.

    The resolution stems from the advisory opinion issued by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in July, in which the Court declared that Israelโ€™s continued presence in the Territory โ€œis unlawfulโ€, and that โ€œall States are under an obligation not to recognizeโ€ the decades-long occupation.

    Click here for the full text of the resolution and here for our live coverage of the meeting.

    Tweet URL

    Threat to peace and security

    The Assembly โ€œstrongly deplored the continued and total disregard and breachesโ€ by the Government of Israel of its obligations under the UN Charter, international law and UN resolutions, stressing that such breaches โ€œseriously threatenโ€ regional and international peace and security.

    It also recognized that Israel โ€œmust be held to account for any violationsโ€ of international law in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including of international humanitarian and human rights laws.

    The text says Israel โ€œmust bear the legal consequences of all its internationally wrongful acts, including by making reparation for the injury, including any damage, caused by such acts.โ€

    The General Assembly highlighted the need for the establishment of an international mechanism for reparations to address damage, loss, or injury caused by Israelโ€™s actions.

    It also called for creating an international register of damage caused, to document evidence and related claims.

    International conference

    The resolution also includes a decision to convene an international conference during the Assemblyโ€™s current session to implement UN resolutions pertaining to the question of Palestine and the two-State solution for the achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive peace in the Middle East.

    Additionally, the Assembly requested the UN Secretary-General to present proposals for a mechanism to follow up on Israelโ€™s violations of article 3 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, as identified by the ICJ.

    Article 3 refers to racial segregation and apartheid and the undertaking by International Conventionโ€™s States Parties to prevent, prohibit and eradicate all practices of this nature in territories under their jurisdiction.

  38. @46 Among all these damning charges note the last 2 paragraphs:

    Additionally, the Assembly requested the UN Secretary-General to present proposals for a mechanism to follow up on Israelโ€™s violations of article 3 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, as identified by the ICJ.

    Article 3 refers to racial segregation and apartheid and the undertaking by International Conventionโ€™s States Parties to prevent, prohibit and eradicate all practices of this nature in territories under their jurisdiction.

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/07/1152296

  39. @13 oh, so you have heard about Palestinians after all, despite your complete silence about their having continuously occupied Palestine for at least 3700 years, which is much much longer than people who immigrated there ~100 years ago.

    Why do you think Palestinians are in refugee camps? anything to do with terror and ethnic cleansing, as pointed out by UN human rights experts perhaps?

  40. we put the

    United Nations*

    in our Backyard &

    then IGNORE IT except

    when it happens to Suit US.

    seems like Not supporting

    genicidal terroristic

    members’ actions

    oughtta be Up

    for a Vote by

    Americans.

    whose

    ‘democracy”s

    been bought & paid for

    by whomever’s Got the biggest Piles.

    *NO Relation to

    ‘Citizens United.’

  41. @48: I was more interested in addressing your anti-semitic rants, less for your benefit (although youโ€™re welcome) than the benefit of other readers: yes what youโ€™re seeing is anti-semitism, and yes itโ€™s wrong.

  42. @31 Really good answer. If we don’t radically decrease carbon emissions in short order, we will be well beyond unchartered territory by 2100, possibly on the verge of civilization collapse or even past it. Even more so, if not accounted for tipping points kick in like thawing of the permafrost, shutdown of the the thermohaline circulation, etc

    During a year of extremes, carbon dioxide levels surge faster than ever

    The two-year increase in Keeling Curve peak is the largest on record

    June 6, 2024

    โ€”

    Carbon dioxide is accumulating in the atmosphere faster than ever โ€” accelerating on a steep rise to levels far above any experienced during human existence, scientists from NOAA and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography offsite link at the University of California San Diego announced today.

    [..]

    โ€œOver the past year, weโ€™ve experienced the hottest year on record, the hottest ocean temperatures on record and a seemingly endless string of heat waves, droughts, floods, wildfires and storms,โ€ said NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad, Ph.D. โ€œNow we are finding that atmospheric CO2 levels are increasing faster than ever. We must recognize that these are clear signals of the damage carbon dioxide pollution is doing to the climate system, and take rapid action to cut fossil fuel use as quickly as we can.โ€

    https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/during-year-of-extremes-carbon-dioxide-levels-surge-faster-than-ever

  43. @30, Its interesting that you only object to the war in the Levant because U.S. tax dollars are involved. Absent the tax dollars, apparently you don’t care.

  44. @24, The trial you speak of was avoided when the State of Washington admitted culpability for sending people back into a house full of carbon monoxide and settled on paying out $25 million.

  45. @37, “Lather, rinse, repeat ad infinitum – it just never ends, and meanwhile the pile of civilian “collateral damage” on both sides keeps getting higher and higher and higher…”

    Correct. That is war’s nature and war is the nature of humankind according to our own history of ourselves.

  46. @40, Climate change is a thing.

    The difference between being carbon neutral tomorrow and the U.N.’s estimates for temperature rise under their models of actual carbon emission is 1/3 of 1 degree. Basically, most of the temperature rise is already baked in by prior carbon emissions, with less of the rise coming from projected future emissions.

  47. @42, “a specific subset of public employees who are free to terrorize and kill the public with little to no fear of losing their job or facing justice.”

    The “specific subset of public employees” wording is what makes the statement false. The statement would be true if “a specific subset” were removed from the sentence.

    Those that survived this gassing with carbon monoxide by employees, acting as agents for the state, when they disconnected C.O. alarms and sent residents back into a death zone, certainly terrorized them. The survivors probably suffer terror every time they contemplate sleep.

    These kids assaulted by teachers were terrorized. Who got fired? No one. Who got a bad recommendation when the teachers in question switched to other districts. No one. https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-schools-knew-these-teachers-abused-kids-and-let-them-keep-teaching

    The people killed when agents of the State of Washington specifically woke a drunk driver to get them off the boat, so they could stay on schedule and get off work on time, were terrorized as the drunk crossed the center line to kill them. Those employees were not disciplined or fired. Two lives and $8.6 million didn’t warrant a reprimand. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/wa-to-pay-family-of-couple-killed-by-impaired-driver-leaving-ferry/

    The staff, parents, and students that suffered years of hostility and trauma from this public school principal were terrorized by an agent of the district. She not only wasn’t disciplined. She got a transfer to an easier job at the same pay, with the district unwilling to investigate the merit of the allegations against the Principal and rule on their merit. The district was unwilling to make any adverse entry to the employee’s personnel file, and was very careful not to make any statement publicly that might impugn the employee. https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/rainier-view-principal-transferred-after-years-of-parent-staff-complaints/

    So it isn’t a subset of public employees that is free to do as you allege without the consequences you suggest, its all public employees.

    Is this because public employees are worse than private employees? Nope. They are on balance, IMO, more service-minded as a group, than the private employee pool. It’s because of unique protections granted to public employees from possible employer abuse granted by the 14th and 5th Amendment, civil service laws, etc., because their employer is the state itself, with unique, monopoly power, that other employers don’t get, over people.

    Yet The Stranger, Ashley, and you, arbitrarily carve out a subset of employees, and attribute to them special immunity and privilege, that is not unique to the subset, but is actually possessed by all public employees.

    KUOW, unlike The Stranger, and you, doesn’t falsely attribute a unique subset of immunities and privileges from criminal prosecution and discipline to a subset of public employees. They report on school teachers and other subsets of employees experiencing those immunities and privileges. They call it out, every time they become aware of a case to report on, no matter what subset of public employment the public employee is part of.

  48. 61, You are deeply committed to not understanding the unique nature of the policeโ€™s role in public safety, or why a journalist might endeavor to provide accountability for public employees who by the very nature of their job have the authority to kill people and violate their constitutional rights, yet apparently operate with the same level of oversight and accountability as a public school employee, which is to say none at all. You would rather waste your time tearing down straw men than actually engaging with the point you are fighting and youโ€™ve been doing this for years. Get a life already.

  49. @63, The teachers, ferry workers, and maintenance workers cited were granted the ability, ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THEIR PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT, to kill and assault, without criminal charge, or employment discipline.

    All public employees are subject to qualified immunity, not just cops. The City of Seattle, King County, and The State of Washington fully indemnify ALL PUBLIC EMPLOYEES for civil damages arising during the course of performing public employment.

    We all have authority to kill people as citizens. The legislatures (and elected state courts) specifically grant every citizen the authority to lawfully kill other people. Such authority is found in RCW 9A.16.050 and .030 in this state, among other parts of the criminal and judicial code. The authority of a police officer to kill is little different in RCW 9A.16.040 (they are more restricted than non-cops actually, requiring probable cause of imminent serious physical injury, not just reasonable belief).

    We all have legal authority to use physical force against others. That is spelled out in RCW 9A.16.020 and .080 and .100, among other places.

    Non-cops actually shoot people in justified self-defense 2,200 times per year vs. 1,100 or so for cops, and cops are much more frequently put in contact with violent, criminal people. 50 million police contacts a year, and only 1,100 of those escalate to the point of justifiable homicide. Only 1,000,000 of those contacts result in any use of force at all, which is 2%.

    So why are police shootings much higher than in other developed countries? Simple. We have 3 to 8 times the murder rates, higher assault rates, etc. than other developed countries If the population policed is more violent, rates of justifiable use of force, including, but not limited to, homicide, will also be higher, by those defending themselves in the course of trying to bring people into custody on behalf of the courts. But we don’t want to look in that cultural mirror, at policies on incarceration and rehabilitation, mental health, etc., that would actually cost a lot of money.

    Nope. We want simplistic (and false) narratives thrown at us by The Stranger, such as police are a special unique subset of public employees in their ability to not be criminally charged or disciplined in the course of public employment.

  50. 65, No one is arguing that the police are unique in terms of their lack of accountability as public employees. This is something you made up entirely on your own because you read someone asking for accountability for the police and fabricated that assertion from whole cloth.

    If I say I like pancakes it doesnโ€™t mean I hate waffles, it just means that I am expressing my love of pancakes. If you accuse me of hating waffles that doesnโ€™t mean youโ€™re right, it only means you donโ€™t understand the most basic norms of communication. You are drawing inferences that donโ€™t exist in order to make an argument you can tear down with a bunch of bullshit you scraped off the internet.

    Other countries have external oversight for their police because they understand that the police represent the authority of the government and hold a unique place in public life. They have fewer police killings for many reasons but itโ€™s less about the number than what happens afterward. Since we donโ€™t have anything like that in the US the next best option is for journalists to inform the public of the policeโ€™s many dangerous failures and if The Stranger is making you angry then they must be doing something right.

  51. @65, So look at the citations provided. Were teachers that assaulted students charged? Fired? How about Ferry workers that let a drunk driver lose to kill two people? Wait, they didn’t just not detain them, they woke them up and told them to leave. $8.6 million paid out by WSF? How about the maintenance workers at Evergreen state who disabled CO detectors and sent tenants back into the gas? $25 million paid out. So no cops aren’t unique in not being criminally charged, not being disciplined, being fully indemnified against civil suits, and having their employer assert qualified immunity as a defense of their employees injurious and death imposing acts and omissions. Not unique at all. It’s a factor with all public employees. Not unique at all to cops.

    Public employment is not “at will” like the private sector. The 5th, 14th, civil service laws, pose substantial hurdles to discipline and firing unique to public ALL public employment.

    Nor are cops not being criminally charged in homicides all that unique verses the public. Over twice as many non-cops as cops each year are not charged for homicides by asserting they feared imminent serious physical injury or death, justifying their use of deadly force. So that’s not unique to cops either. Quite the opposite.

  52. @65, BTW, on another policing note, here is an example of public employees and senior leaders being evidence-based and making government more efficient.

    Interim Chief Sue Rahr is spot on with this policy change:

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/seattle-police-wont-respond-to-tripped-security-alarms-without-verification/

    The only criticism, and its a minor one, is why did it take SPD so long to make this policy change?

    We will all be safer with this change.

  53. @72 — good Advice

    Tho when daddy’s a

    Terrorist he tends to

    Look askance — or

    Worse when quer-

    ried re any WMDs

    happening to be

    Lying around on

    the garage floor

    @70 ~ ‘so myopic’ Is el cap’n*

    & afew’fax’2dissuadeyou &

    Gawdonlyknowswot?

    Previous.

    *his White Whale

    was normalizing

    war weaponries

    chasing & harp-

    ooning his tale

    he drownded

    suddenly under

    the crushing weight

    of Too Many Statistics

    justifications and inanities

    & was put to a well-deserved

    and exceedingly Belated Respite.

    3-1 says his next incarnation’s

    the phuckingPhoenix or may-

    be the EnergizerWabbit or

    theFlushresistantfloating-

    turd, one of donold el-

    trumpfster’s most

    Cherished Faves:

    FifteenFlushes

    and thumper’s wormmy’s

    Unleashed chatterbot

    on methamphet-

    amine or crank~

    the Verdict’s

    still Out.

    there Will

    be a Test.

  54. @30: So, you and “Democracy Now” are upset the Israelis are happy about the death of Hezbollah’s longtime leader? Hezbollah has driven Israeli civilians from their homes in the north of Israel. No sympathy for terrorists.

    “…including the massacre in Gaza.”

    B-b-but I thought only PRO-GENOCIDERS used any term other than GENOCIDE!!! Those so-called “Democracy Now” folks are really asking for it. Go get ’em! Names must be stolen! Then called! That’ll show ’em!

    @46, @47: We’ve been over this already, last week, where we had to explain to you the ICJ had NOT found Israel practicing apartheid. Please let us know if you need that explained to you again.

  55. @31 and @32 dvs99: I won’t be around in 76 years, but weather extremes have me plenty worried about the future. It amazes me how legislators in red states are in such deep denial about their fossil fuel gluttony—right up until they’re underwater from a Category 4 hurricane. Then they’re after the feds pronto for emergency infrastructural assistance their state doesn’t seem to have funding for. So many feel it’s “God’s will”. Like thoughts and prayers alone are going to solve everything.

    I know of a retired Music professor from Western Washington University and his wife who sold their home and moved to Asheville, North Carolina to be with their kids and grandkids. I hope they’re all okay.

    I have a Bellingham native friend who moved to Louisiana eight years ago. While she’s grateful that Louisiana got spared this time, she feels sorry for everybody in Florida, Georgia, North and South Carolina, and Tennessee impacted by Hurricane Helene. I do, too. The billions in damage is insane! 110 dead and a good number missing. I won’t be able to unsee the people trapped on the roof of that hospital.

    And the storms off the Gulf of Mexico are only getting worse.

    Manmade climate change is real. What more proof do deniers need?

  56. “So, you and “Democracy Now”

    are upset the Israelis

    are happy”

    We’re ‘upset’?

    no, Wormtongue, but it

    appears your sociopathic Glee

    is as unappealing to Democracy

    Now & their viewership as it is to me &

    likely to others here at Seattle’s Only news source

    it’s something you’ll

    never be able to

    understand.

    Understand?

  57. @76: So, what name will you steal to call “Democracy Now,” for their unforgivable impertinence in using “massacre” (a word you’ve specifically rejected in the past, BTW) instead of your clearly-required “genocide”?

  58. @77

    nonsense.

    Any reading of my

    comments’d clearly

    see a liberal use of the

    term Massacre in my multiple

    condemnations of bibi’s War on Palestinians

    Except yours.

    your unmitigated and

    Barbaric Glee at the Suffering

    of others is Disturbing not only

    to me but to others here @tS as well,

    who’ve made their feelings well-known on this.

    & as for repurposing

    which you call stealing

    get Over it,

    Wormtongue.

    it’s already been

    Established that JRR Tolkien’d

    likely heartily Approve of your sharing

    his secondmost-loathsome creature’s name

  59. @74 The UN says:

    “Additionally, the Assembly requested the UN Secretary-General to present proposals for a mechanism to follow up on Israelโ€™s violations of article 3 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, as identified by the ICJ.

    Article 3 refers to racial segregation and apartheid and the undertaking by International Conventionโ€™s States Parties to prevent, prohibit and eradicate all practices of this nature in territories under their jurisdiction.”

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/07/1154496

    Let me put in words even you ought to understand:

    The International Court of Justice said that Israel violates article 3, which mandates states to ban all forms of racial segregation AND apartheid

  60. @72 “Don’t let your dad hide his rocket launcher in the garage.”

    but would you believe it if the only evidence is your neighbor saying so?

    Now, I am not saying that someone somewhere doesn’t have a rocket launcher in the garage but that is a very different proposition than what Western news stenographers are “reporting.”

  61. @80: A few tens of thousands of someone’s somewhere, as a matter of fact! ๐Ÿ˜€ The Party of God built an Army of God, and now they get to find out whether there is a God!

  62. @81 The question is not whether Hezbollah is armed to the teeth. The question is whether there is evidence those weapons justify obliterating civilian housing and infrastructure

  63. @79: Yes, but the ICJโ€™s ruling, which you didnโ€™t quote, carefully avoided a finding of โ€œapartheid,โ€ even after recognizing it was covered by Article 3. If theyโ€™d wanted to find โ€œapartheid,โ€ they would have done so explicitly. Thatโ€™s how court rulings work.

    Youโ€™ve made it clear you have a huge desire to label Israel an โ€œapartheidโ€ state. The ICJโ€™s ruling doesnโ€™t support or validate your desire. Thatโ€™s your problem, not anyone elseโ€™s.

    @80, @82: Israel knew the leaders of Hezbollah were meeting in a hardened bunker, Israel knew when, and Israel knew which residential neighborhood Hezbollah was using to shield that bunker. So your question seems already answered.

  64. @78: Anyone reading your comments would know that you’ve repeatedly and loudly insisted upon calling the Israel-Hamas war a “genocide,” by Israel, to the point of your name-calling as “Pro-Genociders,” anyone who dares questions your use of the word “genocide.” Yet Democracy Now can avoid using the word “genocide,” without a peep of protest from you. As always, your outrage remains highly selective.

    “it’s already been

    Established…”

    Your ignorant opinion of what a dead man might think doesn’t ‘establish’ anything, other than you opine ignorantly. In reality, professors tend to be highly protective of their intellectual property — and Tolkien wasn’t just any professor, he was a Fellow at Oxford University. So he might not have regarded your brazen theft of his intellectual property as forgivingly as you ignorantly opine.

  65. @86

    more neoconic nonsensical drivel

    Wormtongue? whom you’ll

    Always Be at least to Me,

    and JRR who Never met

    a Liar he could endorse

    ‘specially such a blood-

    thirsty one such as

    well, You know

    Whom!

  66. Oh look!

    see: what bibiโ€™s

    Keep-outta-Prison

    Gambit/Campaign/

    Genocidal War on Gazaโ€™s

    Doing for Jews Planet-wide?

    and all you Cheerleadersโ€™re

    making Anti-semitism

    Even WORSE?

    the Guardian:

    British Jews

    experience more anti-

    semitism as Middle East war escalates

    Community Security Trust

    says the number of anti-

    semitic incidents

    has tripled

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/02/british-jews-experience-more-antisemitism-as-middle-east-war-escalates

    well-Played

    Wormtongue

    & your sockpuppy

    the little thumperino et al

    this was

    ENTIRELY

    Predictable

    and you Played

    into Hamas’s Bloody

    Hands like children offered

    a cherry-red Lolipop. you was

    Exceeedingly,

    Pre-Dictably,

    well-played.

    and

    JRR’s

    pissed.

  67. @87: Your pretended knowledge of a dead man whom you never met continues to impress, albeit not in the way you probably intend. Thieves gotta steal, so you’ll keep doing it. More importantly, stealing someone else’s property, and uncreatively abusing it to make cheap attempts at insult, is likely the closest thing to actual useful creativity you’ll ever manage, so you’ll really keep at it.

    @88: Persons who already do not want Jews or Israel to exist will take offense at both of those continuing to exist. Just as Tolkien is in no way responsible for your brazen theft of his intellectual property, Israel defending itself is in no way responsible for the reprehensible acts of haters.

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