Takesies Backsies: The Department of Health and Human Services rescinded about 700 of the 1,300 termination notices they sent to CDC workers this weekend. HHS claims the notices were mistakenly sent due to a “coding error.” The layoffs included members of the Epidemic Intelligence Service and two people leading the measles outbreak response. Who needs’em, right? (The US has confirmed more than 1,500 cases this year, the highest number in three decades.)
CourtWars: Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones will have to pay the $1.4 billion judgment against him for spreading lies that the Sandy Hook school shooting was staged. The Supreme Court of the United States rejected his appeal without even asking the victims’ families to respond—the judicial way of saying, “Don’t waste our time, man.” Jones argued he never got a fair trial, which is rich coming from a guy who spent years yelling about “crisis actors” instead of turning over discovery documents.
News flash, Hegseth! Major news outlets, including The New York Times, the Associated Press, Reuters, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, and even the far-right Newsmax, are refusing to sign the Defense Department’s new media access pledge. The pledge is a gag. It limits journalists from much of the Pentagon without escort and gives the Secretary of WAR!!! the power to personally revoke the credentials of any reporter who seeks information that he has not approved for release. Any outlet that refuses to sign will likely get their reporters kicked out of the Pentagon, according to the AP.
Reporters say it’s a First Amendment Nightmare: The sign-or-get-out rule that makes transparency sound like treason. The New York Times posted on X that “The public has a right to know how the government and military are operating. The Times is dedicated to pursuing the public interest through deep, fair reporting and an unwavering pursuit of the facts.” Hegseth responded by retweeting the Times’ statement, adding “👋.”
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And Now, the Weather: It’ll be sunny and a little windy, with temps in the high 50s. Tomorrow, it’s more of the same with a high of 61. On Friday, there’s a chance of morning showers.
Orcas Island Activist Released from Israeli Prison After Gaza Flotilla Arrest: After several days in Israeli prison, 32-year-old activist and sailor Jasmine Ikeda returned home to Orcas Island on Sunday night. Ikeda was one of 400 activists aboard the Global Sumud Flotilla, a humanitarian convoy challenging Israel’s aid blockade. Speaking to KING 5, Ikeda said Israeli naval forces had surrounded her boat, came aboard, and held activists at gunpoint for nearly 20 hours. After her arrest, Ikeda said she’d shared a four-person cell with 14 people. She slept on concrete and saw Israeli soldiers beat her fellow prisoners, she said.
Mariners Crush Blue Jays: The Seattle Mariners are just two wins away from their first-ever World Series appearance after obliterating the Toronto Blue Jays 10–3 on Monday, KUOW wrote. Julio Rodríguez and Jorge Polanco hit three-run homers, and Joshua Naylor added a two-run shot. The Blue Jays, meanwhile, managed only six hits all game, leaving a crowd of 44,000 with nothing to celebrate on Canadian Thanksgiving. The Mariners play at home tomorrow in Game 3, and the team is up 2–0 in the AL Championship Series.
Leaving Paid Leave Without Pay: Washington’s paid family and medical leave program is so popular that it could go broke. The Washington State Standard reported that it faced a $350 million deficit by 2029 unless lawmakers raise taxes or cut benefits. The state paid more than $2 billion in benefits to roughly 240,000 Washingtonians last year, a $300 million jump from 2023. Premiums are rising. Next year, the state will take 1.13 percent of our paychecks, up from 0.92 percent. It’ll hit the state’s legal cap of 1.2 percent by 2027.
Campaign Sign Killing Case Dismissed: A Skagit County judge dismissed the case against Angela Conijn, a woman accused of shooting and killing Kamran Cohee in 2021 during a fight over a Loren Culp for Governor sign, KING 5 reported. Conijn was also exonerated of bail. The defense argued Conijn acted in self-defense. Prosecutors argued that Conijn fired after the confrontation was over, and called the ruling “an inaccurate reflection of the facts and law.” They plan to appeal. A March trial ended in a hung jury.
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🙁 : Neo-soul pioneer D’Angelo died from pancreatic cancer this morning. He was 51.
“Campaign Sign Killing Case Dismissed”
Suck it, shitlibs. I like how Micah Yip totally failed to mention that it was some shitlibs who attacked people for having a Loren Culp sign in their yard, which led to one of the said shitlibs getting shot and killed by the people rightly defending themselves from attackers in their own yard.
I guess those facts didn’t fit Yip’s “progressive narrative”.
@1 You’re even more triggered than usual this morning. Didums have a bad day?
No, I’m having a wonderful time mocking idiot shitlibs like you and Micah Yip, thanks for asking though.
A nice selection of items for your first Slog AM, Micah!
@3 It must be really hard being such a snowflake that you have to post comments like that. Poor woogums.
Here’s a suggestion. Kiss your golden Trump doll, look at the value of your Trump coin portfolio, and rub one out thinking just how much money you’ve funneled into your Dear Leader’s pockets. That’ll make you feel better in no time.
To be clear the Culp sign case wasn’t dismissed because anyone found the shooter to have been “rightly defending themselves” it was dismissed because the prosecutors admitted false evidence at trial. The most reasonable interpretation is the Culp supporter is in fact a crazed killer who was saved from consequences by the dishonesty and/or incompetence of Skagit law enforcement.
@3: Good grief man, chill. He just started. I appreciate you going after left-wing insanity, but don’t be a gratuitous asshole.
@7: Oh c’mon, you know Biped can’t help themselves. Their hair is permanently on fire, but it’s nice of you to try to curb their excesses. xoxo
@5 – I don’t even like Trump, moron
@9: what’s the matter, Trump not nazi enough for ya? 🤣 That nazi stuff is nothing but percocet for people who feel like losers!😂😂😂
@8: anytime darlin’
Killing someone for stealing a yard sign seems excessive to most rational people.
@12
in trumpftopia
if you Don’t kill them
then YOU go to Prison.
also in trumpftopia
when you’ve Successfully
2nd Amendmented them, You
get to move into their Family’s Home*
if you Already Have a Home
turn your New Acquisition
into a B&B, long-term
Rental or just Cash
Out & buy some
trumpftopia
coins!
They’re Almost
Three! percent
SOLID Gold!
thanks, republicans!
*we
decided
to Follow the
Israeli Example!
“The Washington State Standard reported that it faced a $350 million deficit by 2029 unless lawmakers raise taxes or cut benefits.”
I wonder which option the state lawmakers will choose…
@14 hopefully raising taxes. Paid family and medical leave is an incredibly worthwhile expenditure and this country has lagged far behind the rest of the developed world in making it available.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/12/16/u-s-lacks-mandated-paid-parental-leave/
Imagine anyone killing anyone over anything having to do with that nobody Loren Culp.
@16 – Imagine stopping your car in front of someone’s house that has a Loren Culp sign in their yard and then starting a fight with them that gets you justifiably shot to death.
Biped dear, that was my point. You mustn’t let your need to always be a victim overwhelm whatever reading comprehension skills you possess.
bipe not, lest ye be biped!
whilst there’s a Lull
speaking of not cheering
Cadet Bonespurs’s phony af
“Peace Plan” Ceasefire “Agreement”
it’s Already Failing.
probably Progressives’ Fault
for neither Prostrating ourselves not
Apologizing for having uttered ‘genocide’ outloud:
Just as we speculated the other day might happen,
Israel has announced that it is going to cut the aid it
allows into Gaza in half and cut off fuel and gas shipments
because Hamas hasn’t returned the bodies of all the dead Israeli hostages.
Israel was fully aware
when it signed the agreement
that Hamas would not be able to
deliver the bodies of all the hostages
right away due to the rubble and chaos
caused by the Israeli bombing campaign in Gaza.
Drop Site News’ Jeremy Scahill explains that
“During Gaza negotiations, Israel understood
it would take time to recover all bodies of deceased
captives. A specific mechanism for recovering the bodies was agreed.
Now
Israel is
pretending
that didn’t happen
so it can violate the deal and
cut the agreed aid shipments in half.”
Mondoweiss reported last week that Hebrew-language
Israeli media had been saying that a “secret clause”
in the ceasefire agreement would allow Israel to
resume its onslaught if the bodies of the dead
hostages were not returned within
a 72-hour window.
So it looks like this
was planned from the beginning.
[gee — ya think?]
Create obligations
that Israel knew Hamas
would be unable to fulfill, then
use it as an excuse to resume the slaughter.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-trumpanyahu-administration-is
well
at least
they got
their living
Hostages back
and Palestine, Some of their Israeli-
held Prisoners, and Both’re reporting vastly
Inhumane treatment at the hands of their Captors
Everything thedjt
touches soon
turns to
Shite
@20: “it’s Already Failing.”
I’m so happy for you! Denial is a safe space for your fragile state.
@21 — “I’m so happy for you!”
just keep that ol
Genocide gen-
ociding, eh?
’tis
“funny”
What makes you
reich-wingers Happy:
Republicans’re
truly Horrific
peeps.
@20: lol, Hamas coughed up more bodies after Israel threatened sanctions. So now the border crossings stay open. 😄 Stick to the peace deal, you get nice Israel. Break the peace deal, you get mean Israel. 😂
Next up: Hamas’s disarmament and exit from government. Peace deal, bitches! 🤣
@21, @23: And, of course, our petulant friends have — yet AGAIN — again somehow misplaced the source of violence in Gaza:
“As Israeli troops pulled back last week to facilitate a deal that freed the living hostages still held in Gaza, Hamas surged security forces in behind them—a public assertion of authority intended to make clear the group remains the enclave’s governing power.
“Those forces immediately began cracking down on rival militias controlled by prominent Palestinian families, engaging in firefights and conducting public executions that have spread fear and raised concerns that a spiral of internecine violence could bring new pain to a long-suffering population.”
(https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-gaza-israel-withdrawal-33d69b55?mod=hp_lead_pos7)
As usual for our friends here, lives in Gaza matter only when our friends can stick Israel for the blame in ending those lives. Hamas can literally kill anyone they want, for any reason, at any time, without any hint of due process at all, and those killings will not elicit one single peep of protest from our friends. Not one.
But we must be kind, patient, careful, and respectful towards our friends. Their all-time favorite war has died, and their ever-more-desperate attempts to bring it back will consume all of the effort otherwise needed for getting on with their lives.
wow wormmy
you’ve twisted
quite Heroically
your pro-genocide
fervor onto the Anti-
genociders in one fell
schwoop. AIPAC’s DEF
getting It’s Money’s worth
“Hamas can literally kill anyone they want,
for any reason, at any time, without any
hint of due process at all, and those
killings will not elicit one single
peep of protest from our
friends. Not one.”
–@thumpfnsorna on October 15, 2025 at 4:56 AM
memory-holing:
just another One of wormmy’s
utterly dishonest rhetorical tricksies:
“And I want to say something very, very clear and very, very blunt.
Nothing, absolutely nothing, justify — can justify
or legitimize the carnage that Hamas carried
out in the towns and kibbutzim and the
villages in the southern of Israel.
Nothing can justify it.
It is appalling. And even
the occupation crimes, the
crimes that Israel is guilty of,
crimes of occupation, apartheid,
ethnic cleansing and the Nakba,
those, either, cannot justify such carnage.
At the same time, nothing,
and absolutely nothing, can
justify the massacre that the Is-
raelis carries out now in Gaza, not
even the crimes of Hamas.”–Ofer Cassif
this is what you Get
when you Occupy
another People
& when your generations-olde
open-air concentration camp
squeezes and mashes its oc-
cupants til there’s damn
little to actually Live for
& steals their Homes
and so now Isreal
shows it’s horrific powers
of Retribution. to what End?
–@kristofarian on October 10, 2023 at 5:25 AM
and Now, in the power vacuum
that is Gaza, however Briefly,
comes an internecine battle
for domination nutnyahoo
never wouldda allowed to
happen whilst propping
up Hamas for the past
Two Decades~a battle
to control Gaza from
Within & which DJT
will use to exert his
Awesome Powers
to quell & in so
doing, restart
the Genocide
well, Cadet Bonespurs’
“Peace Plan” Ceasefire plan
is about to extinguish itself and
Exactly according to bibi’s
Machiavellian mechanations
according to tS’s
reich-wing nuthatchets
restarting bibi’s two years
long keep outta prison gambit
is cause for celebration on the Left
their ghastly projections
reveal their vile
nature
“I don’t know which is funnier:
concerning Gaza, that the Stranger
and the (rapidly dwindling number of)
supportive commenters here simply Will.
Not. Criticize. Hamas. or that they whine so hard
when we call them out for their support of terrorists.”
–@thumpfnsorna on October 7, 2025 at 7:26 PM
@24: Nowhere in Kristofarian’s hour-long, 400-word, four-post response (@25–28) did he answer your charge, which is that the “pro-Palestinian” progressives are unwilling to condemn Hamas for its failure to disarm in violation of the peace deal, nor for Hamas’s public executions of its opponents in Gaza. 😂
I don’t know, to me, extra-judicial public executions seem like a pretty easy thing to condemn! 😆 But that’s because I’m a good person, not a progressive. 😇
@thumpfnsornas
“And I want to say something very, very clear and very, very blunt.
Nothing, absolutely nothing, justify — can justify
or legitimize the carnage that Hamas carried
out in the towns and kibbutzim and the
villages in the southern of Israel.
Nothing can justify it.
It is appalling. And even
the occupation crimes, the
crimes that Israel is guilty of,
crimes of occupation, apartheid,
ethnic cleansing and the Nakba,
those, either, cannot justify such carnage.
At the same time, nothing,
and absolutely nothing, can
justify the massacre that the Is-
raelis carries out now in Gaza, not
even the crimes of Hamas.”–Ofer Cassif
I HEARTILY ENDORSE Ofer Cassif’s Excellent
Distillation of My thoughts,
too — See
Above
if you Want
I can Repeat it for
the Hard of Reading
and/or those in the Back
IN ALL FUCKING CAPS?
and
as far
as the
Interneciniary
Battle in Israeli-Occupied
Gaza/Palestine which is TOTES
Unexpected — by Fools and deniers of History
Gazans’d be SO MUCH
BETTER SERVED if fucking
Hamas’d simply Drop Their Weapons
and LEAVE Palestine — but as per Usual in This
sorta thing, there were ZERO PLANS for for dealing
with this shit — other than, Duh, Cadet
Bonespurs’s DEMAND Hamas
Surrender — as fucking IF
that WAS EVER GONNA
FUCKING HAPPEN.
My advice:
give a Listen to Today’s
‘Fresh Aire” on WAMU 88.5
with Dave Davies as he Interviews
a brilliant Aaron David Miller
probably thee best-Informed
Commentater on the
Mess that is
Palestine:
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/15/nx-s1-5574219/a-veteran-state-department-negotiator-unpacks-the-ceasefire-agreement-in-gaza
and
Then
get Back
to Us? danke
@30: well, if Hamas won’t disarm and exit government, then the ceasefire is off. Like I said @3, you stick to the peace deal, you get nice Israel. You break the peace deal, you get mean Israel. 😂
The international community, including the Arab League and the Palestinian Authority, has the authority under Points 15, 16, and 17 of the 20-point peace plan to deploy an international stabilization force and disarm Hamas against Hamas’s will. If the international community is not interested in shouldering such a burden, then Israel has the right to do it for them. 💥💥💥
@31: “Like I said @3” should be “Like I said @23”
@31: Amazing how the people who keep saying this deal must fail seem to know so little about it. Their severe dislike of Hamas having to disarm tells us more about them than anything else.
@29: “I don’t know, to me, extra-judicial public executions seem like a pretty easy thing to condemn!”
Of all the points on which our purity posers pranced, preened, and postured, their performative position on “genocide” perfectly presented their progressivism. Given their demonstrated actual knowledge of that term, we should find it entirely unsurprising they now show no interest in a government’s premeditated, organized, extra-judicial mass killings.
from @30
A veteran state department negotiator
unpacks the ceasefire agreement in Gaza
from Terry Gross’ brilliant,
typically Elucidating ‘Fresh Aire’
with my Fave guest host Dave Davies:
Our guest today, Aaron David Miller, spent years in the U.S. State Department trying to forge peace between Israel and the Palestinians, working under Democratic and Republican presidents.
He says that in bringing this casefire agreement to fruition, President Donald Trump dealt with Israeli leaders in ways no other president has.
He says Trump’s transactional approach to politics and diplomacy probably helped in this case. Today, we’ll look at how the ceasefire came to be and consider the challenges that remain for Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.
Aaron David Miller spent 25 years in the State Department, playing a key role in the Oslo peace process in the 1990s. He’s received the State Department’s Distinguished, Superior and Meritorious honor awards.
He’s now a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the author of five books. We recorded our conversation yesterday.
MILLER: Look, the reality – this is not the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty. This is not the Israeli-Jordanian peace treaty. Agreements succeed or fail when they’re tested over time. This is not even a peace agreement.
What this is – and I don’t want to take anything away from what this is – is a remarkable moment. I worked on this process, largely in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, since the 1980s.
Any agreement between Israelis and Palestinians, let alone one between two combatants who are pledged to one another’s mutual destruction, is an extraordinary achievement.
What this is is a chance after two years of Israelis and Palestinians visiting a parade of horrific horrors on one another.
What this is is the possibility of ending the war in Gaza and maybe building a broader bridge so that Israelis and Palestinians can find a pathway forward.
DAVIES: Right. Since the announcement last Friday, Hamas did release the living hostages, and Israel did cease offensive military operations and withdrew behind a designated line in Gaza.
We’ll talk about the longer-term prospects in a bit. But do you think that these conditions – I mean, the cessation of hostilities – will hold over the coming weeks?
MILLER: You know, I do. And I usually don’t, having failed, largely, over a quarter of a century in helping to create circumstances for a conflict-ending agreement between Israelis and Palestinians.
I usually default to the negative on this. But I think – and it’s fascinating to consider what the first phase actually promises. It contains, in my judgment, the three basic elements that in fact could create a foundation.
And those elements coincide with the reasons the international community, the region, the United States cared about Gaza, beginning on October 7.
oodles, MOST Instructively:
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/nx-s1-5574219
continued from above
And let me also add, having worked and voted for Republicans and Democrats, this is a man who is presiding over the erosion of American norms and institutions and undermining the very nature of constitutional government that his inaugural oath impelled him to protect, and yet, he deserves enormous credit for what he’s done here.
[skipping ahead a little]
. . . who or what is going to govern Gaza. There’s talk of a Board of Peace with Donald Trump as chairman, and Tony Blair has been mentioned. What about Palestinian representation? There’s talk of a technocratic government, identifying Palestinians that have some degree of legitimacy and credibility.
But what does it actually mean to govern? And who do you get to staff up the administrative structure that is going to be required – the thousands – in order to engage in this process of governance?
DAVIES: You know, in terms of the immediate situation, I mean, we’ve seen Hamas fighters emerging in some places, patrolling intersections, getting in gun battles.
And it was interesting that on Monday in Egypt, I believe, Trump was asked about Hamas doing these policing activities, and he essentially said the U.S. was giving them temporary approval.
He said, quote, “they’ve been open about it, and we gave them approval for a period of time,” unquote. That’s kind of remarkable, isn’t it?
MILLER: I mean, he – they’re making a virtue out of necessity, I think. And I think a lot of it flows from one other point, which I find extraordinary – that in order to close this deal on Hamas’ side, Trump authorized Witkoff and Kushner to meet directly with Khalil al-Hayya, probably the most important external part of the Hamas leadership. That was extraordinary.
Trump had done it once before – in March – to openly negotiate, to construct a channel with Hamas. And the more I think about it, the more I go back to your initial point about Trump’s transactional nature.
He’s willing to break all kinds of traditional diplomatic crockery. And I would bet, before this deal progresses substantively, there probably will be other direct meetings between administration officials and Hamas, which of course is going to drive the Netanyahu government crazy.
I wonder now – just your question prompts the notion that maybe, to actually end up doing this deal, the U.S. may have to construct this channel.
still oodles more:
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/nx-s1-5574219
@34: lol, Kristofarian belatedly discovers that diplomacy requires diplomacy and it just completely blows his mind 😂😂😂
@35: And here he thought diplomacy consisted entirely of screaming “genocide,” against only one side, and of demanding an arms embargo against only one side! Two sides to a conflict — what’re the odds?!? 😉
The Onus
Is On Israel
And Its Allies To End
The Genocide, Not Their Victims
It’s actually never legitimate to withhold aid from starving civilians.
It was never legitimate at any time.
That’s one of the annoying things
about having to discuss Israel’s ridiculous claim
that Hamas is hoarding hostage corpses in order
to achieve some kind of goal, and therefore justifies
reducing aid into Gaza as punishment: the conversation
skates right over the fact that it has never been legitimate
for Israel to withhold humanitarian aid into Gaza. Debating
whether Israel is right or wrong to withhold aid under these
specific circumstances tacitly assumes that it could ever be right
to withhold aid under any circumstances.
–Caitlin Johnstone, Oct. 15, 2025
it has never
been legitimate
for Israel to withhold
humanitarian aid into Gaza.
But Hamas! they Shriek!
But HAMAS! they Shriek!
BUT HAMAS! they Shriek!
and they
NEVER
weary
thee AIPAC
is STRONG in
thumpfnsorna!
“lol,
thumpfnsorna
belatedly discovers
that diplomacy requires
fucking T W O GOOD ACTORS
and would NEVER impose
That kind of UNFAIR RESTRICTIONS On
FUCKING Israel or it’d Completely blow its “minds”:
ISRAEL’S MOUNTING CEASEFIRE VIOLATIONS IN GAZA
“The matter is not a ceasefire —
we are talking about a managed genocide
[THERE’S T H A T WORD AGAIN wormmy!], a managed forcible displacement.”
ONE DAY AFTER leaders of European and Arab nations, along with President Donald Trump, declared an end to the war in Gaza at an Egyptian peace summit, the Israeli government broke with terms of the ceasefire deal on Tuesday, killing at least seven Palestinians, many of whom were returning to their homes after months of displacement, and announcing it would restrict the amount of humanitarian aid into Gaza.
The agreement stipulated that Israel would halt all of its military operations and that the flow of aid would return to levels seen under the previous ceasefire, during which at least 600 aid trucks entered the territory each day.
Despite this, Israel’s military carried out two strikes and COGAT, the military unit that controls shipments of aid into Gaza, told aid groups that it would limit deliveries to half the amount — 300 trucks daily — agreed upon in the deal.
[“Agreements”? HA-Ha. HA-Ha. HA-Ha!
insert grinning thumpfing
emotikon right HERE:
it has never
been legitimate
for Israel to withhold
humanitarian aid into Gaza.]
The Israeli government
also said it would not reopen
the Rafah crossing along the border
of Egypt, a key avenue for the delivery of aid.
[who tF needs
“Diplomacy”
when you’
re Israel?]
Israel carried out the attacks and restricted aid as it accused Hamas of failing to hand over the bodies of the remaining Israeli prisoners in a timely manner as promised in the ceasefire agreement.
Within the 72 hours allotted in the deal, Hamas returned the 20 living Israeli prisoners, in exchange for about 2,000 Palestinian prisoners [with TEN THOUSAND Palestinians Remaining in Israeli Prisons, and how Fucking MANY of them CHILDREN?], many of whom were detained in Gaza during the war without charges.
For the retrieval of the remains of the deceased detainees in Gaza, all sides, including Israel, had acknowledged it would take more time since many of the bodies are buried beneath rubble of buildings destroyed by Israel’s bombardment.
According to Palestinian and United Nations [conservative] estimates, 10,000 bodies remain buried beneath the 50 million tons of rubble from buildings leveled by Israel’s attacks. Some of the bodies are also believed to be within the nearly 60 percent of Gaza that remains under Israeli military occupation.
–by Jonah Valdez; October 15, 2025
https://theintercept.com/2025/10/15/israel-ceasefire-violations-gaza-aid
But Hamas! they Shriek!
But HAMAS! they Shriek!
BUT HAMAS! they Shriek!
and somehow
they NEVER
weary!
you’re
Killin’ it
with your
‘Humor,’ wormmy
thumpfnsorna Wormtongue!
keep
on Justifyin’
@31: “…if Hamas won’t disarm and exit government, then the ceasefire is off.”
And yet, the very same persons and groups who just spent two full years yelling about how horrible the war was for civilians in Gaza, about how Israel should thus agree to a ceasefire, about how the US should somehow force Israel to agree to a ceasefire, about how the US should inflict an (illegal) arms embargo upon an ally under attack in wartime (supposedly to force a ceasefire) — these very same persons and groups are now very much NOT publicly demanding Hamas disarm to preserve an actual, ongoing ceasefire. No mass protests fill the streets of Western cities, no public pressure campaigns target American elected officials, not even any pro-ceasefire rhetoric issues from voices long known for issuing exactly such stridently pro-ceasefire rhetoric. There’s been so little talk — let alone action! — that any bit of it has become newsworthy. Why are these persons and groups who were, not long ago, very, very loudly in favor of a proposed ceasefire, suddenly become so utterly silent towards the maintenance of an actual ceasefire? The mind, it wobbles! 😉
Um
Yeah
Wormtongue
the Deck is so fucking
Stacked AGAINST Poor Israel
they can
Never Get
an OUNCE
of fucking of
Sympathy, the
WORLD IS AGAINST THEM.
here’s a slightly Different-from-AIPAC take:
Too Many Palestinian
(and Certain Israeli) Voices
Are Excluded from the U.S. Media
The bombing has stopped in Gaza. Palestinians there, still waiting for the food and other aid to reach them, are now sifting through the rubble of their homes seeking their dead. In Israel, twenty families reunited with their loved ones who endured two years of captivity in Gaza following October 7th, 2023.
Their pain and joy received blanket coverage in the US, and rightly so. But the ongoing suffering of the Palestinians rarely appears in the mainstream US media.
It is absolutely essential that people here, the source of Israel’s arsenal, have access to the full breadth of debate on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
[but but but
wouldn’t That
be PRO Hamas?]
One experienced participant in the Middle East peace process
is Palestinian human rights attorney Diana Buttu. On
the first day of the ceasefire, she said on
the Democracy Now! news hour,
“While people here are elated,
happy that the bombs have stopped,
we’re also at the same time worried, because
we’ve seen that the international community, time
and again, has abandoned us. Everybody is happy that
the Israelis are going home, but nobody’s talking about the
more than 11,000 Palestinians who are currently languishing in
Israeli prisons, being starved, being tortured, being raped.” [but Hamas!]
A strikingly similar analysis
came from the uncle of one
of the Israelis taken captive on
October 7th. Joel Beinin is an emeritus
professor of Middle East history at Stanford University.
His niece Liat Beinin Atzili was held captive
for 54 days in Gaza in 2023. The family’s story
is the focus of a new documentary, Holding Liat.
“The world media focuses on the Israelis,” Joel Beinin
said on Democracy Now! “There’s always a serious
imbalance in coverage and centering Israel and
Israelis, and much less attention to Palestinians.
Palestinian society, as a whole, is suffering far,
far more than Israeli society has ever suffered as a
result of the armed clashes, going back all the way to 1948.
That’s something that we in the West
don’t tend to have adequate
appreciation for.”
“The essence of the problem [is] dehumanizing us, dehumanizing the Palestinians,” Ahmed said. “We lost our beloved ones. We lost our houses. We lost everything. So, it sounds like there are people who deserve life — Israelis — and there are people who don’t deserve life, in the perspective of Trump and the perspective of this colonial Israeli government.”
When you hear people speaking from their own perspectives, whether a Palestinian father, or an Israeli-American uncle, it breaks down barriers to understanding. You become less likely to want to destroy them. That is why we need a media that reflects the full spectrum of debate, the full range of voices. Without that, peace, in the Middle East and elsewhere, will remain beyond reach.
–by Amy Goodman & Denis Moynihan; October 16, 2025
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/16/too_many_palestinian_and_certain_israeli
yeah,
poor Them,
eh, Wormtongue?
Israel Tortured And Sexually Humiliated Greta Thunberg
–CAITLIN JOHNSTONE
OCT 15, 2025
In an interview with Swedish paper Aftonbladet, Greta Thunberg
has corroborated earlier eyewitness reports that she and her
fellow Global Sumud Flotilla activists were subjected to
monstrous abuses by Israeli officials after being ab-
ducted from their boats carrying aid
for Palestinians in Gaza.
[TERRORISTS!]
some excerpts from Aftonbladet,
and Greta Thunberg :
“They grab me, pull me to the ground, and throw an Israeli flag over me.”
“They dragged me to the opposite side from
where the others were sitting, and I had the flag
around me the whole time. They hit and kicked me.”
“They moved me very brutally to a corner that
I was turned towards. ‘A special place for
a special lady’, they said.
And then they had learned ‘Lilla hora’ (Little
whore) and ‘Hora Greta’ (Whore Greta) in
Swedish, which they repeated
all the time.”
In the corner where Greta was sitting, the police placed a flag.
“The flag was placed so that it would touch me. When it
fluttered and touched me, they shouted ‘Don’t touch
the flag’ and kicked me in the side. After a while,
my hands were tied with cable ties, very tightly.
A bunch
of guards
lined up to
take selfies with me
while I was sitting like that.”
“They were thrown to the ground and beaten.
But I could only see it out of the corner of my eye,
because every time I lifted my head from the ground,
I was kicked by the guard standing next to me.”
Greta was then taken into a building to be searched and undressed.
“The guards have no empathy or humanity, and they keep taking
selfies with me. There’s a lot I don’t remember. So much
is happening at once. You’re in shock. You’re in pain,
but you go into a state of trying to stay calm.”
Outside, she was forced to take off her clothes again, she says.
“It was mockery, rough handling, and everything
was filmed. Everything they do
is extremely violent.”
“It was so hot, like 40[C] degrees.
We begged the whole time:
Can we have water? Can we have water?
In the end, we screamed. The guards walked in front
of the bars the whole time, laughing and holding up their water bottles.
They threw the bottles
with water in them into
the trash cans in front of us.”
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-tortured-and-sexually-humiliated
yeah
Israel
Cannot
Catch a Break
END bibi’s
“War” on Palestine:
Pardon or Depose
nutnyahoo: Stop the
Bombing — Stop the Genocide
Stop ALL THE War Crimes whilst Israel
STILL Has a Chance at Redemption.
Expanding on @24, Hamas has remained active at the site of their recent extra-judicial mass killing:
“Heavily armed Hamas fighters seized the Jordanian Field Hospital complex in Gaza City last weekend after a gunbattle with a rival Palestinian group, re-establishing their control over what residents and Israel’s military said had long been a redoubt for the Islamist militants.”
(Imagine knowing Hamas had just committed mass murder in that very same hospital’s courtyard, and still telling a foreign reporter that Hamas was baldly lying about having used the hospital for military purposes!)
“Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, ordered other Palestinians out of the hospital at gunpoint and took over the facility and surrounding neighborhood, said Mohammad Doghmosh, whose family is a powerful force in that part of the Palestinian enclave.”
Wow, if only someone around here cared a lot about whether civilians in Gaza could have access to a hospital. Sadly, neither the Stranger, nor any sympathetic commenter, ever has. Because if they had, they would, you know, find a way maybe to mention this somehow?
“An in-depth investigation is needed to determine the extent to which Hamas has militarized health facilities in Gaza and whether Israel acted proportionally in its attacks, said Sam Zarifi, executive director of Physicians for Human Rights.”
Why do I get the impression a finding that Israel acted proportionally might have recently become a whole lot easier to, um, find?
Little wonder so many critics of Israel have eagerly predicted this peace will not hold, and are now carefully not demanding Hamas give up weapons…
@20
Oh, well, it Lasted
ALMOST Two
fucking
Weeks
Hooray?
“Here it is.
Trump’s Gaza cease-fire
deal just went up in flames.
Reported just 12 minutes ago.
Israel not only has suspended aid into Gaza
but has launched a massive wave of attacks.
Time Magazine is
going to have to come
up with a new cover of Trump.”
–@Denise Wheeler; @denisedwheeler.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/hodgsondavis.bsky.social/post/3m3kp7myy6k2g
But, Fucking Hamas!
But, Fucking HAMAS!
But, FUCKING HAMAS!
BUT, FUCKING HAMAS!
Israel could do
NOTHING.
inculpable,
they are.
right,
wormmy?
justify: