Guerilla Stop Signs Removed: A street safety vigilante took power into their own hands when they installed three unsanctioned, unofficial stop signs at the notoriously-blind intersection of 14th Avenue East and East John Street. It’s a spot where that steep slope of John Street finally crests and where people are trying to get to Safeway via all modes of transportation. Plus, now that Safeway has shuttered its more-pedestrian-friendly entrance on 15th Avenue East (remember when you could just walk into a Safeway via all of its entrances?), everyone is funneled into the entrance attached to the parking lot. It’s a messy intersection, one the city doesn’t seem to think of as much of a problem since they removed the three stop signs.
But Maybe It Worked: The guerilla stop signs did prompt Seattle Department of Transportation to gather data on that intersection and see if stop signs would be necessary.
Duke’s Closes Alki Location: Duke’s Seafood on Alki Beach will close immediately, ownership announced. The restaurant never recovered from pandemic and West Seattle Bridge closure-induced lows. Duke’s still operates six locations in Bellevue, Green Lake, Kent, Lake Union, Southcenter, and Tacoma. If you want a restaurant with sweeping, unobstructed views of the Seattle skyline—it’s for sale. Unfortunately, I doubt it’ll be a bargain.
Buying a Home? In This Economy? King County saw an 11 percent increase in homes-for-sale last month. The prices keep climbing. The median sale price rose 3.3 percent to a laughably-high $977,500.
Existing? In this economy? The stock market remains abysmal. In fact, it’s even worse than yesterday because China’s 34 percent tariffs on US goods went into effect. I’m just going to quote the Associated Press for these market updates. Here they are: “The S&P 500 was down 2.8% this morning. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was down 1,049 points, or 2.6, as of 9:35 a.m. Eastern time, and the Nasdaq composite was 3.2% lower.” It’s bad out there. Meanwhile, Trump doubling down. He says his “policies will never change.”
Dow, S&P 500, Nasdaq crater after China announces first retaliatory tariffs
finance.yahoo.com/news/live/st…— Yahoo Finance (@yahoofinance.com) April 4, 2025 at 6:41 AM
So Much for Job Growth: Despite federal layoffs, US employers added 228,000 jobs last month. We’ll see how this forced global recession impacts things in coming months.
International Duck Has Visa Revoked: The Department of Homeland Security cancelled an international University of Oregon student’s visa without warning for unspecified criminal charges. The university is trying to figure out how to respond.
The Weather: Ignore Mudede. Today, with its sunny skies and low-60s highs, will be glorious. Last week, it seemed the whole weekend would be glorious, but it does not appear to be anything special anymore and instead will be cloudy and rainy. Enjoy today.
The Economics of Mass Deportation: A new report out of the Washington State Budget & Policy Center found that undocumented immigrants are vital to our state in many ways. We have around 1.2 million immigrants here, which includes 619,000 non-citizens and 325,000 undocumented immigrants. On an economic level, we depend on our immigrant population, especially when it comes to state funds. Our undocumented immigrant population contributed around $1 billion in 2022 to our state economy in the form of state and local taxes. According to the report, if even 10% of our undocumented immigrant residents in Washington are deported, Washington state would lose $100 million per year in revenue. That’s not even considering the contributions they make to providing goods and services. Industries such as farming, restaurants, care and domestic work, and construction rely on immigrant employees. Mass deportation is cruel, senseless, anti-American, and bad economically. You’ll hear more on this from Marcus Harrison Green later today.
Don’t End Up Like a Case on The Pitt: Wear a helmet if you ride an e-scooter or an e-bike. According to Harborview Medical Center, last year 163 serious injuries from e-scooters or e-bikes came through their doors. Many of them were head injuries. E-bike and e-scooter injuries went up 37 percent from 2023.
Also, On That Note: No one spoil last night’s new episode of The Pitt. I missed it. I’m loving the return of episodic, appointment-viewing for television, but it is terrible for spoilers in this social media landscape. Can’t we have at least a 24-hour embargo before people start clipping things and blasting them on every platform? This is why it’s terrible that there’s really only one text-based social media platform these days (Bluesky). The influx of video everywhere else sucks. Numbs the brain. Spoils the shows.
Assault and Rape Charges for Russell Brand: United Kingdom police charged comedian and actor Russell Brand, 50, with “one count of rape, one count of indecent assault, one count of oral rape and two counts of sexual assault.” Four women brought the charges against Brand, who in recent years has become more of right-wing social commentator.
Enjoy this The Onion article from 2023:
Nation Could Have Sworn Russell Brand Was Already Convicted Sex Offender
— The Onion (@theonion.com) April 4, 2025 at 6:50 AM
RFK Jr. fires Health and Human Services Department Comms Teams: Instead of making public health more transparent like he promised, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is doing the opposite. In Tuesdays spate of layoffs, seven employees in charge of communicating the health department’s work and its guidance to the public lost their jobs. According to these people, the communications offices of five HHS agencies housed in the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the National Institutes of Health have lost pretty much their whole staff.
Oopsie: RFK Jr. now says that the Department of Government Efficiency’s cuts, where around 20 percent of Department of Health and Human Services—or 10,000 people—were laid off may have been a mistake. He may reinstate some roles. I suggest he reinstate all roles and also leave his. Just a thought. Not sure he has many of those himself.
Meanwhile: Dr. Oz will lead Medicaid and Medicare programs. Thanks for nothing, US Senate.
Laura Loomer Calls the Shots: Far-right conspiracy theorist and white nationalist Laura Loomer told Trump to fire six National Security Council officials after an Oval Office meeting where Loomer “vilified the staff members by name,” writes the New York Times and attacked their loyalty and character. Trump then fired them. Michael Waltz, the national security adviser, was powerless to prevent the firings, showing that Loomer, who is a 9/11-was-an-inside-job truther, wields more power than he does. Trump denied Loomer played any role in this, but said she was a “very good patriot and a very strong person.”
Here’s Who Was Fired: From NYT: “The people fired included Brian Walsh, the senior director for intelligence; Maggie Dougherty, the senior director for international organizations; and Thomas Boodry, the senior director for legislative affairs.”
A Song for Your Friday: Heard this in a coffee shop the other day and it brought me back to 2011 when I listened to it on repeat.
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@47 “In the 60’s and 70’s restaurant and retail jobs were not careers. They were jobs held primarily by the young while they up-skilled into higher-skilled vocational trade or got a college education. We need to get back to that.”
That economy no longer exists and almost certainly never will again. The idea you can “upskill” people into jobs that don’t exist was the most ignorant thought in what was otherwise a run of the mill Boomer-era fiscal conservative spiel
@48 “Trump won, with great Progressive turnout, because working-class, and particularly typically low-voter-participation voters, turned out, left the Democratic Party, and went for Trump”
This is factually incorrect. Turnout overall was way down from 2020, but Trump’s vote total was about the same. What that means is, contrary to your incorrect assertion, Kamala lost because some people who voted for Biden just stayed home–but they did not switch sides. Those voters weren’t inspired or convinced to vote for the Dem candidate this time despite the opponent being the same. Being “not Trump” wasn’t enough, the Dems needed to give them something to believe in and they didn’t.
@48
yet another Lie:
https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2025/04/02/79995231/slog-am-cory-booker-is-a-badass-trump-calls-today-liberation-day-and-bob-ferguson-shoots-down-a-wealth-tax/comments/49
@49,
We have shortages of electricians, plumbers, carpenters, and other skilled trades.
We have shortages of nurses and general practice physicians.
We have shortages of engineers in the U.S. defense industry. They have to be U.S. citizens to get a security clearance.
We have shortages of cops.
We have shortages of soldiers, sailors, and marines, because the pool of people graduating high school, that meet the physical requirements, and don’t have a criminal record, keeps shrinking.
Tons of positions that require skills and a lack of people with skills to fill them.
One thing we have never done well in this country is create good on-ramps to skill enhancement and mobility after people enter the workforce in retail and other low-skilled jobs. That, not tariffs, will provide well paying jobs for the middle class.
There was a documented red shift among blacks, hispanics and Gen Z voters, among others. The only demographic groups that didn’t show red shift were the college educated and women. There was some blue shift in those groups. It was more than turnout.
the far ‘right’
OWNs am
Radio
and
there is
Virtually Zero
Progressive Radio.
corporate america
OWNs america
we’re just here
to Service the
motherfucker.
@52, That is because attempts at Progressive Radio have been commercial failures. Apparently listeners on conservative radio buy tons from advertisers on said radio. In spite of getting good ratings, Progressive listeners were unwilling to pay for Progressive Radio by buying shit from advertisers on said radio. Progessives SAY they support a lot of things, but they don’t vote for those things with their discretionary dollars.
@53
and mudroach’s
FOX Lost 100s
of Millions
initially.
but with
Rodger ‘Dodger’
Goebbels/Ailes’s far
‘right’ marketing Genius
they were able to turn it ’round
and now their Progaganda
has Re-shaped America
in Rupert Fucking
Mudroach’s
despicably
Horrific
visage.
America
Desperately
NEEDS a few
Good Billionaires
willing to Sacrifice/
Invest in this Country
that Made Them Billionaires.
Where
ARE they?
they cannot
ALL be Fascists
.
can they?
@51 “There was a documented red shift among blacks, hispanics and Gen Z voters, among others. The only demographic groups that didn’t show red shift were the college educated and women.”
You’re misunderstanding what this means; the shift refers only to the proportions of people who did vote. If 10 Black voters cast a ballot in 2020, with only one voting for Trump, but in 2024 only five voted, still only one for Trump, the share of Black votes going to Trump doubled (“red shift”). But the real story is the five Black Democrat voters who stayed home.
“We have shortages of cops.”
Cop isn’t a skilled job. If you have the qualifications for a retail job you have them for a cop job. People increasingly just don’t want to be cops. Same probably goes for military, which always depended on bribing poor people for recruitment.
If there’s a shortage in the trades then you’re right about that though, we should be incentivizing people to enter those fields. I didn’t realize that was an issue
@49
In 2000, I was meh on Gore, so I didn’t bother voting. After Bush took office I resolved to never not vote again. Hopefully the regretful non voters of 2024 will learn and vote consistently going forward.
@49: ‘Those voters weren’t inspired or convinced to vote for the Dem candidate this time despite the opponent being the same. Being “not Trump” wasn’t enough, the Dems needed to give them something to believe in and they didn’t.’
Or the Uncommitted movement, the Abandon Harris movement, and Sawant got what they all very publicly said they wanted: for voters to boycott Harris in the general election, due to Gaza.
@57 I’m pretty sure what they wanted was for her to take the moral stance on Gaza so they could feel comfortable voting for her. She refused, so they couldn’t and didn’t.
@56 if the choices were W or Trump who would you vote for?
@55, My point exactly. Being a cop pays a hell of lot better than retail. Provided you can pass a criminal background check, complete the physical requirements for the academy and getting hired, and regurgitate back what you are told over 860 hours about legal standards for reasonable suspicion, probable cause, and evidentiary procedures on some written tests, your in.
Like with the military, the pool of people who can do that is getting smaller and smaller. The people willing to put up with what wait staff has to put up with, only when the objection comes it might be physical not just verbal, further shrinks to the pool.
Add to that the perception (which is highly exaggerated IMO) that you are going to be under an unreasonable microscope and face adverse discipline, even for good-faith errors under high stress, and the pool gets even smaller.
I agree with you its not as highly skilled as it should be. But we have to be willing to pay the extended salaries and training costs to make it more skilled. We don’t want to do that as a society, either up front, or on an ongoing basis because it means increasing the numbers of cops on payroll by 30% to 50%, which isn’t cheap. The big cost of having a cop take 80 hours a year of evidence-based deescalation training isn’t the cost of the instructor. It’s the additional cop that you have to hire to replace that patrol officer on patrol when they are in class. Add to that more mental health training, more training in the law, etc. and it adds up to a pretty big bill.
Many European countries require, and fund, more training to become a cop, and to remain a cop. They also hire far more cops per thousand citizens. In many cases as much as double, at vast expense. Where they spend far less, is on incarceration. They create higher certainty of consequence (i.e. getting caught) by having more cops, closer to the action, and pay for it with less severity of consequence by having more restorative, less carceral, and shorter consequence.
@59 “Many European countries require, and fund, more training to become a cop, and to remain a cop. They also hire far more cops per thousand citizens. In many cases as much as double, at vast expense.”
I don’t think that’s true
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/police-officers-per-1000-people
@55, Whether they voted against the Dems by staying home, or voted against them by voting for Trump, it still was a shift away from the Dems to Trump.
Vote totals, vs. percentages, by demographic group, seem to be hard to come by with a google search. Lots of discussion of vote share by demographic group, but few by vote totals by demographic group.
And comparisons to 2020 are somewhat misleading, because the turnout in 2020 was a record high. A Black Swan event.
@10 TheTourGuide, @19 kristofarian, and @22 CDizzle: +3 for the WIN!!!!!
I have nothing more to add—you three nailed it. Kudos!
@54 kristofarian: It appears Baby Doofus has either called in sick and / or Mr. Magoo is now playing the leading clueless MAGA troll.
Ol’ raindrop sure does love to keep his progeny sKKKared s-s-s-stoopid, doesn’t he?
Thank you, Nathalie, for the lovely, calming photo of PNW woods. I needed this.
for the Longest time
I’d figured dewey
was a Woman
not that there’s
anything Wrong
with it! so it was a
bit of a Surprise when
ol’ dews announced it here
not
that he’d
been hiding it
his perspective
just seemed to me
to be quite feminine.
the Citizenry
the Empathetic
Citizenry wasn’t
able to stomach our
full-throated Unconditional
Blanque Check, ‘she’s-all-Yours,
Bibi.’ Who’s gonna vote to Kill People
Unless they don’t Believe
Some peeps Deserve
To even Live
& the Narrative here
Was, they’re just fucking
Animals, seem them Behead
All them Babies – yet another Lie
from The Wormtongues here & elsewhere:
they don’t
DESERVE
to Live
from Caitlin’s Newsletter
Hamas
Succeeded
In Exposing The
True Face Of The Empire
One thing October 7 did accomplish was getting Israel and its allies to show the world their true face. Getting them to stand before all of humanity to say, “If you resist us, we’ll kill your babies.
We’ll deliberately shoot your kids in the head. We’ll massacre medical workers. We’ll systematically destroy all your hospitals. We’ll rape you and torture you as a matter of policy.
We’ll lay siege to the entire civilian population. We’ll make your entire land uninhabitable and then we’ll kick you all out and take it for ourselves.
We’ll assassinate all your journalists and block foreign journalists from entry so that nobody can see what we’re doing to you.
We’ll lie about all of these things the entire time, and you’ll know we’re lying, and we’ll know you know we’re lying, and you’ll know we know you know we’re lying.
And we’ll get away with it anyway,
because we hold all the cards.”
Sometimes I’ll run into people who say “What did Hamas expect to happen? They had to know Israel would do this!”
They say this in an effort to lay the blame for Israel’s genocidal atrocities at the feet of Hamas, as though Israel is some kind of wild animal who can’t be held accountable for its actions if someone gets too close to its mouth.
–by Caitlin Johnstone; Apr 06, 2025
oodles:
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/hamas-succeeded-in-exposing-the-true
@58: I’m pretty sure most stuff about which you’re pretty sure has no actual connection to any external reality, and I’m also pretty sure there’s no way to get you to admit this.
What they said was that Harris should lose for not obeying their diktats on Gaza. They said this, even knowing electing Trump was the only possible result of Harris losing. So Gaza was more important to them than keeping Trump out of office. Please do feel free to tell us all about the superior moral stance inherent to electing Trump.
“if the choices were W or Trump who would you vote for?”
If the choice is between useful dialog about actual reality, and making up bullshit hypotheticals to play ‘gotcha,’ we know what you’ll always go for.
@65: ‘One thing October 7 did accomplish was getting Israel and its allies to show the world their true face. Getting them to stand before all of humanity to say, “If you resist us, we’ll kill your babies.’
Quick quiz: Who actually killed children on 10/7? (Hint: not Israel.)
@66 “If the choice is between useful dialog about actual reality, and making up bullshit hypotheticals to play ‘gotcha,’ we know what you’ll always go for.”
‘I always vote no matter what and so should you’ isn’t useful dialogue. Demonstrating the flaw in that type of absolutist philosophy (the possibility of a choice between two subjectively unacceptable alternatives) is a proportionate response. If Gaza was the #1 most important issue to a person then, in “actual reality,” both 2024 choices were unacceptable to them.
when corporate dems
shove their preferred corporate
candidates down our throats it isn’t the
Voters who are at Fault. look in a fucking
mirror ‘democratic’ leadership — there’s your
djt.
@55, Officers, per 100,000 people.
Greece. 506
Germany. 349
France. 422
Spain. 534
Italy. 456
Germany. 349.
I cross checked the source I cite with others to verify accuracy. There is some variation but its mild and not statistically significant to the rankins and trend.
United States? 242
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers?wprov=sfla1
Those counties together have the vast majority
@60 should be @69.
@69 you originally wrote “They also hire far more cops per thousand citizens. In many cases as much as double, at vast expense.”
But even your own chosen data shows some European countries hire maybe one more cop per thousand citizens, many others hire fewer, and only two countries hire roughly double what the US does.
They also all pay cops significantly less:
https://www.euronews.com/next/2025/03/30/police-wages-in-europe-which-countries-pay-officers-the-highest-and-lowest-salaries
@71, The other countries not chosen are population dust relative to the total population of the E.U.
The fact remains that they seem to appreciate something we don’t. Certainty of consequence beats severity of consequence when trying to curb anti-social and criminal behavior.
We pay corrections officers much less than cops. Our theory is that a severe, punitive sentence that has a low-probability of being served, because there is a low probability of being apprehended. How is that working out for us?
Over 65% of the population if Europe lives with more cops per citizen than in the U.S.
@72 I agree with you that likelihood of being caught has a significant impact on deterrence where severity of punishment does not. I disagree that we need to hire and deploy more armed state agents to increase likelihood of being caught.
The EU as a whole has 3.4 police per 1000 citizens, which again is not “far more” than the US’s 2.4 per 1000.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Police,courtand_prison_personnel_statistics
@67: “‘I always vote no matter what and so should you’ isn’t useful dialogue.”
Useful dialog could start there, which is why you’re trying to stifle it from the start with a bullshit hypothetical — one which is an un-inspiringly low-rent cribbing of the “both major parties are the same” outright lie. It’s an outright lie which hard-lefties have been telling for decades now, despite the beneficiaries of said lie having included both W and Trump.
‘If Gaza was the #1 most important issue to a person then, in “actual reality,” both 2024 choices were unacceptable to them.’
Which, in turn, means they accepted the possibility they were contributing to a Trump victory. I have asked you very clearly why we should do anything but condemn the morality so displayed, and you have pointedly not done so. (Nor will you, I boldly predict.)
@68: Look at the “Gaza is #1 important issue” crowd. There’s your Trump victory. (And yes, it is yours.)
@75 like everything you write there’s no principle to this, you’re just asserting that people with whom you disagree are wrong and blameworthy. That’s why you don’t like the hypos: your assertions never stand up to any logical scrutiny.
I’ll add it’s possible to believe Gaza is The Most Important Issue in the Entire History of Ever, and yet still conclude that overall, Harris would be better than Trump on Gaza. They didn’t automatically have to call for a boycott of the election, just because she rejected their demand. Sawant clearly said part of their intent was to “punish” Harris, not merely express disagreement over a policy issue. Bullying should always be rejected as immoral.
@76: “That’s why you don’t like the hypos…”
I clearly gave the reason I did not like that particular hypo’: it’s a version of the big lie about “no difference between the two parties,” and I’ll here add, you insulted readers here by asking us to take it seriously.
Again, you’re completely free to examine the morality of persons who were happy to encourage or aid a Trump victory, explain to us just how gosh darned wonderful such morality is, and tell how we should accept — or even admire! — it. Good luck with that.
@74, If you don’t call 41% more, “far more,” than I guess you are write. Last time I checked, 41% was a statistically and materially significant difference.
@65: You really might want to limit your exposure to blatant hate propaganda, especially of the type Johnstone reliably cranks out. I’m guessing she completely failed to mention the Israeli hostages Hamas took and held? Or did you carefully avoid her mention of that as simply too much truth for you?
Either way, I’m wondering what behavior you’d expect of any country whose citizens (and even children) had been kidnapped out of their own homes, and dragged into illegal imprisonment across an international border.
Fuck off
Wormtongue
you ugly purveyor
of lies half-truths mis-
dis- and malinformation.
@80: Well, that didn’t take long. It normally requires a few more comments before you finally hit your ever-predictable ending.
Oodles!
https://www.thestranger.com/users/25419161/kristofarian
it’s
Your
demise
we’re all
praying for
Wormtongue.
bugger off
@82: And there’s the British variant! Right on time.
(You might find wishing for the death of another person falls outside the bounds of acceptable discourse here, though.)
@83 — when Liars choose
that which is to be our
‘Acceptable’ dis-
course.
here’s a wee
ditty for ya
wormmy it
Could Be
bluesy or
Rock or
w/Ev
(it’s
Your
choice!):
good ole
Wormtongue
ever the Dramaqueen
cherry-picking its way thru its
‘right’ wing narrative where Might
Makes – ah, well, y’all know the rest
from the Cambridge:
demise: the end
of something that was pre-
viously considered to be powerful.
like I said:
bugger Off
Wormtongue:
your
leader’s
calling. go
@84: The Stranger’s moderators decide what is acceptable discourse at the Stranger.
Either you can describe when I was “considered to be powerful,” or you were using the more common meaning of “demise,” which means “death.” That you’re now actually claiming to care about the real definitions of words suggests you know you stepped over the line, and are now trying to distract from your transgression.
You really should stop consuming Johnstone’s hate propaganda. Wishing for the death of someone, merely for disagreeing with you, is not healthy — for you.
@85
tl;dr
btw
omg
I’d LOVE
to see your
insidious and
Ineffectual pleas
for tS’s mods to pls Please
PLEASE DELETE my comments
calling you Out for the pos you are
actually,
no I Wouldn’t.
they prolly all got
the ptsd’s just from
quickly scanning, then
scrapping your utterly Pathetic
Drivel tho no doubt considered Masterpieces
by their composer.
bugger
off wormmy
your incessant trolling
makes you look like
a Very Small
persona
which
Reminds
me — whatever
happened to ol’ Tentsores?
you toss it on-
to the Scrapheap
where you belong?
that’s what we call
a Rhetorical question
but Please don’t let that Stop
ya from another 1,000 or so words.
@76
thanks for Your
takedown of the
Wormtongue. not
very Popular here is he:
“… like everything
you write there’s no
principle to this, you’re
just asserting that people
with whom you disagree are
wrong and blameworthy. That’s
why you don’t like the hypos: your ass-
ertions never stand up to any logical scrutiny.”
thanks,
thirteen 12!
Nailed it, yet again.
@86: “whatever
happened to ol’ Tentsores?”
Apparently, the huge stretch of imagination required to produce that clever name utterly exhausted your creativity for name-calling, so ever since, you have cravenly stolen IP from a dead man.
“not
very Popular here is he”
Being popular is more important
than being right, eh?
Of course it is.
To you.
@76 Thirteen 12: For the WIN!!!
@86 & @87 kristofarian: teenieweenie is pretty pathetic, isn’t he, for all spew and nothing to say.
bingo
auntie Gee
and Very well said.
back to wormmy
& speaking of
‘Imagination’:
imagine a world un-
burduned by The Terrifieds’
Need for a ‘Strong Daddy’ type,
one who always Punishes instead
of Encouraging where one’s self-per-
ceived Might does not fucking MAKE THEM
RIGHT, a world that Encourages the Humanity in
OURSELVES –unlike the currrent one, which YOU Fought
so Desperately Hard for, cheerleading bibi’s Keep outta
Prison campaign at Every Opportunity, knowing fool-
well it’d Elect thedjt and the Repression could con-
tinue, Unabated, whilst Denigrating everything
Progressive as childishly Unattainable and
Did in fact Elect our current toddler tyrant
mayhaps it’s
merely your brain
Wormtongue. nyt:
Ideology
May Not Be What
You Think but How You’re Wired
“Ideologies numb our direct experience of the world,” Leor Zmigrod, a political neuroscientist at Cambridge University, said. “Ideologies are rarely, if ever, good.”
In her new book, “The Ideological Brain,” the neuroscientist Leor Zmigrod outlines what makes some people prone to rigid thinking.
—by Matt Richtel; April 8, 2025
getchyur Oodles right here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/08/science/ideology-neuroscience-politics-zmigord.html
[Cont’d from above]
Q. What is ideology?
It’s a narrative about how the world works and how it should work. This potentially could be the social world or the natural world.
But it’s not just a story: It has really rigid prescriptions for how we should think, how we should act, how we should interact with other people.
An ideology condemns any deviation from its prescribed rules.
Q: In the book, you describe research showing that ideological thinkers can be less reliable narrators. Can you explain?
Remarkably, we can observe this effect in children. In the 1940s, Else Frenkel-Brunswik, a psychologist at the University of California, Berkeley, interviewed hundreds of children and tested their levels of prejudice and authoritarianism, like whether they championed conformity and obedience or play and imagination.
When children were told a story about new pupils at a fictional school and asked to recount the story later, there were significant differences in what the most prejudiced children remembered, as opposed to the most liberal children.
Liberal children tended to recall more accurately the ratio of desirable and undesirable traits in the characters of the story; their memories possessed greater fidelity to the story as it was originally told.
In contrast, children who scored highly on prejudice strayed from the story; they highlighted or invented undesirable traits for the characters from ethnic minority backgrounds.
[Gazans DESERVE IT!
Right, wormy?]
So, the memories of the most ideologically-minded children incorporated fictions that confirmed their pre-existing biases. At the same time, there was also a tendency to occasionally parrot single phrases and details, rigidly mimicking the storyteller.
Like I said, above: Oodles more:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/08/science/ideology-neuroscience-politics-zmigord.html
oooh!
lookit You
wormmy, using
Your Imagination!
“Being popular is more important
than being right, eh?
Of course it is.
To you.
tensorna on April 8, 2025 at 8:13 PM”
can
Redemption
be far behind?
@80: Your snarling refusal to consider any of the questions I’d asked about Johnstone’s latest hate-fest strongly suggested my questions may have found something. So I took very deep breath, firmly clamped my nose shut, and waded into it over there. Sure enough, she mentioned both Hamas and 10/7, and very approvingly, too:
“That is the problem they [Hamas] were trying to address with their actions on October 7.”
“You can disagree with the decisions Hamas made on that day. You can say they should have used other means to pursue justice. You can denounce them, hate them, do the whole public ritual necessary for mainstream acceptance in western society.”
Yes, slaughtering unarmed civilians by the hundredfold, killing children in front of their parents (and vice versa), mass rape, dragging hundreds of persons off into captivity — all of it was a “means to pursue justice,” and no one should get upset about it, to the point where anyone who dares to express anger at such atrocities merely mouths empty words, and only because of craven capitulation to peer pressure. (Puts her whole, “If you resist us, we’ll kill your babies” thing nicely in perspective, doesn’t it?)
That’s the morality you’re proclaiming when you quote Johnstone — and in quite a cowardly manner, too, when you carefully walk around what she clearly says. Good luck with your whole, “I’m not pro-Hamas!!1!” schtick. We all know you and Johnstone for what you really are.
“Being popular is more important
than being right, eh?
Of course it is.
To you.
tensorna on April 8, 2025 at 8:13 PM”
there you go
projecting again!
@92
tl;dr.
now
where’d
wormmy
get off to?
his rebuttals
typically like
Clockwork’re
getting a little
slower every day
perhaps it’s a
brainworm?
@92: ‘That’s the morality you’re proclaiming when you quote Johnstone — and in quite a cowardly manner, too, when you carefully walk around what she clearly says. Good luck with your whole, “I’m not pro-Hamas!!1!” schtick. We all know you and Johnstone for what you really are.
‘tensorna on April 9, 2025 at 10:11 AM’
@94: “…getting a little
slower every day…
“kristofarian on April 10, 2025 at 4:31 AM”
Over eighteen hours? Even you’re not that slow.
You read @92. You just have no rebuttal, and you know it. You’re every bit the Hamas sympathizer you’ve loudly claimed not to be. I’ve warned you that reading Johnstone was a bad idea, but you wouldn’t listen. Now here you are.
(What’s better: that your pathetically feeble attempt at a dodge proved even weaker than your previously weak attempts at dodges, or how your claim to total ignorance of your subject matter now lacks credibility? If we must choose, I’ll pick the latter, just for the sheer novelty of it.)
“Imitation
is the homage
that dullness pays to wit.”
–@Oscar Wilde*
“Being popular is more important
than being right, eh?
Of course it is.
To you.”
–@Wormtongue,
Proving to be
Quite UN-
Popular,
presen-
tly. sad
see:
https://post.thestranger.com/slog-am/2025/04/09/80004940/slog-am-trump-continues-tariffs-terrorism-the-white-house-hates-pronouns-and-the-j-pod-has-a-new-baby-orca/post-comment
*so you, Too,
may Understand,
wormmy: ‘Imitation is
thee Highest form of Flattery.’
hope
this Helps!
@95
tl;dr.
gosh.
I guess
that makes
This comment
@100. whoa!