…why couldn’t they agree to just, you know, share him?
A sticky case of revenge unfolded last week in a Wisconsin motel after a woman discovered her husband was cheating and invited three other scorned lovers to settle the score—with Krazy Glue.
The 36-year-old Lothario was carrying on with all of them before his wife figured it out and notified the others, according to a criminal complaint filed in Calumet County, Wis., in a town about 90 miles north of Milwaukee. “We had a plan,” one of the women, Therese Ziemann, 48, told an investigator, according to court records.
Ziemann lured the man to a Stockbridge hotel Thursday, promising a “rub down,” the complaint says. He was blindfolded and tied to a bed. Then Ziemann text-messaged the other three women, including the man’s wife, who joined her in the room. One of them, Wendy Sewell, 44, reportedly asked, “Which one do you love more?”
After the victim was threatened with mace, punched in the face and taunted, the mischief moved south. Ziemann glued a sensitive body part to his stomach, according to the complaint.
@ 42 Well I see know that you are not only a fundamentalist nut job, but you believe in the Lucifer hoax as well. Of course, of course. Apocalyptic mania is a close cousin to today’s brand of false Christianity.
@ 47, coming from a Christian family, I recognize when someone is actually a Christian and when someone is just calling themselves that. Guess which one you are.
And yes, you do have human teachers. Are you in a bible study group? Those people are teaching you. Do you go to church? Your pastor is teaching you. You can credit Jesus with giving them wisdom (although I doubt your teachers possess it) but Jesus himself is too busy to teach anyone directly.
42: Miss 139 days of Christianity,
As always your a fool. Uriel-238 has told you he is a naturalist, he doesn’t claim to be Christian, but you refuse to actually use reading comprehension skills. Neither of us are satanist, as you so want to artfully imply.
The one who wished ill on the man was you. The one who identified with and supported the women was you.
“These women deserve the admiration of all other women around the nation as far as I’m concern. As such all of us should keep our eyes on how they’ll be treated by our judicial system. I do hope they get a judge who’s not a misogynist.
These women acted correctly especially the wife, the guy should consider himself lucky he got off so easily with his weiner intact, LOL”
You’re the one guilty of murder in your heart, not me. That speck isn’t in my eye, it’s the log in yours. Proof that you don’t know the scriptures you so claim to be an authority on in your 139 days. There is not a chapter or a verse in the scriptures where it permits tying a man down, punching him in the face, taunting him, and gluing his penis to his stomach, because he was sleeping with more than one woman. No, it says to turn the other cheek, to love your neighbor as yourself, and to not be overcome by evil, but to overcome evil with doing good. In my opinion, what those women did was evil, apparently he was a jerk and didn’t have their permission to be sleeping around, but they are not justified in their decision to inflict damage on him. And, you, who claim to be a follower of Christ, are not justified in your choice to support them. To wish ill on another person is to murder them in your heart.
I forgive you.
I don’t forgive you LC…You are a hateful and evil black female who lacks the empathy her station should have instilled in her. Shame on you and your ugly behavior. If there was a Hell, you would burn there for a thousand years for your lies and misdeeds.
@ 53, well said Kim.
Matt and Enigma,
Miss 139 days, is correct, I’m not her teacher. I’m her elder in Christ, by a decade plus, and yes, I spent many years writing Bible studies for evangelical churches, but I’m not her teacher. One can only teach someone who is humble and is willing to accept instruction. One who is full of pride, and believes that Christ’s instructions to refrain from judging others doesn’t apply to herself, is not teachable.
Kim, I never claimed you were her teacher. I was defending open-minded Christians against her self aggrandizement. She claims to speak for all true Christians and all real women, and I won’t stand for it. You’re right, she is not teachable in her current state. Only the humble can learn, you have to admit that you don’t know everything and that other people in the world have knowledge you don’t posses.
I think it’s admirable to read and learn about yourself from personal religious texts, but that can’t be the end of education. Conversations about the texts are necessary to understand the deeper meanings. But Loveschild can’t admit that people that don’t belong to her particular strain can teach her something about her own text.
Enigma,
I know, sorry that I didn’t say it as well as I could have. It was Matt, that refered to me as teacher. That is the norm in the church, the elders (those who can understand the deeper meanings and who have been walking with the Lord for many, many years, or solid food of the scriptures) in Christ teach the infants (who only understand the words on the page, the new to the faith, or the milk drinkers), and that is what he was getting at (I think).
I appreciate your grace and your perspectives.
Thanks, Bassplayerguy.
53 56 This is precisely what I’m talking about, Uriel has come out more than once in defense of the “church” of satan and has justify his defense using the same distorted logic that you usually use. But know this Kim, even Uriel (as do all here who do not know Christ) has a better chance of being forgiven by our creator and gaining salvation than someone who claiming to know the teachings (such as you) of Christ chooses instead to throw off those who are living in murk and trying to follow the light that only Jesus can provide.
“I’m not her teacher”
Right you have said, for the one who came to teach us about the way to salvation and on how to reside with the heavenly father for eternity was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
“I’m her elder in Christ”
Wrong, given the distortions of the Bible you have posted here nothing points out to you as being an “elder” of mine nor of any other true Christ follower in the knowledge of the living word which is after all the manual handed to those men and women who have had and some even spoken to God “face to face, as a man speaks with his friend” Exodus 33:11
Nothing you have written here so far could be construed by any real observing christian as biblical understanding. I humbly suggest you seek out a church in which the bible is actually read instead of the new age pamphlets and books that you read that have to do more with moral relativism than they do with christian teachings. If I were in Portland I would offer an invite to you to my church (although, given your aggressive behavior you would most likely reject the invitation) but there are churches in Portland where the Bible is actually read by ministers who have actually taken time to study it, so I urge you to at least go to one to see for yourself.
To those of you – including Dan in his title – who wonder why these women didn’t just decide to “share” him, i ask, are you fucking kidding me?
If you were being monogamous and found your partner was not.. .and found that your partner was in fact lying to you all the time and sleeping with a stable of other people would you say to yourself “Oh, golly! Time for a new perspective!” and go all Ethical Slut on someone who has just proven that he is unethical, disrespectful, and untrustworthy?
Give me a break. That is insulting and frankly, stupid.
53 56 This is precisely what I’m talking about, Uriel has come out more than once in defense of the “church” of satan and has justify his defense using the same distorted logic that you usually use. But know this Kim, even Uriel (as do all here who do not know Christ) has a better chance of being forgiven by our creator and gaining salvation than someone who claiming to know the teachings (such as you) of Christ chooses instead to throw off those who are living in murk and trying to follow the light that only Jesus can provide.
“I’m not her teacher”
Right you have said, for the one who came to teach us about the way to salvation and on how to reside with the heavenly Father for eternity was Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
“I’m her elder in Christ”
Wrong, given the distortions of the Bible you have posted here nothing points out to you as being an “elder” of mine nor of any other true Christ follower in the knowledge of the living word which is after all the manual handed to those men who have had and some even spoken to God “face to face, as a man speaks with his friend” Exodus 33:11
Nothing you have written here so far could be construed by any real observing christian as Biblical understanding. I humbly suggest you seek out a church in which the bible is actually read instead of new age pamphlets and books that have to do more with moral relativism than they do with christian teachings. If I were in Portland I would offer an invite to you to my church (although, given your aggressive behavior you would most likely reject the invitation) but there are churches in Portland where the Bible is actually read by ministers who have actually taken time to study it, so I urge you to at least go to one to see for yourself.
So what denomination do you belong to Loveschild? You are very coy about talking about your church or minister.
I do think it is amusing that you and your ilk believe you are the only true Christians in the world. Who were the true Christians in 1135? Has anyone been able to approach the truth of Jesus before your group came along?
These might sound like condescending questions, but I’m being sincere. What makes your interpretation of the Bible so much more true than the thousands of Christians that have gone before you?
@61
You’re right, if I found out my girlfriend was cheating on me with a couple of other guys I wouldn’t get together with all of them and suggest a real exploration of our sexual bouandries by opening the relationship. On the other hand I wouldn’t get together with said couple of dudes, kidnap my girlfriend, super glue her pussy shut, and then punch her in the face.
I think Dan’s point is that in the end it would be just as easy to share him as to kidnap and assault him. The unsaid point: even easier to walk away.
Loveschild … it’s hard to judge what my personal sexual expectations are in general, because it changes on the person I encounter. Some people I like to be with for a while, some people I wouldn’t mind spending a lifetime with.
Quite frankly, there are some women I downright I avoid because I KNOW my tempation to cheat on them would be too great. I have no idea why I feel that way, so I keep it in my pants.
Somehow, I think women are just that way with men. I’ve been hearing way too many of my female peers gripe about men not wanting to commit. In reality, they are pissed off because the guys they like don’t want to commit. These days, I’m having trouble getting a girl commit to a cup of coffee or a conversation after I get a phone number … and yet women blame it all on men.
Why? Because society places so much emphasis on women “settling down” that they supposedly feel less than human if they aren’t tied down with a man, both socially and sexually (if they are lucky).
Honestly, I’m sick of the fricken hypocracy many women express. I know we all have bottom feeders that are in love with us that for some reason we all chose not to commit to because we feel we deserve better. But women place no ownership on their sexual agenda and blame it all on men.
Loveschild … whatever.
Sorry … as for the Christian element … I’m atheist and humanist.
Sometimes I interpret Jesus dying for our sins as … Jesus was openly disobeying himself and damning himself that he can make the world a better place.
I suppose there might be a special place in hell for me … but maybe I’m just a little more selfless than you … in trying to be accepting and less judgemental of those that think and feel differently, and encouraging them to be happy with life choices … so long as it doesn’t adversly effect others.
If I die making people in this life happier with greater fullfillment in life, I suppose I’ll burn with a smile on my face.
LC @ 29 “Where are the numbers, poll, study? I don’t think that you could know anything from your own personal experience about these things Enigma, even if you like feminine things Enigma, only real women know what I’m saying.”
LC @ # 22 “Most men are swines with a one track mind when you get to the nitty gritty of things. The vast majority of those who share the ideology of “sharing” (promiscuity) is men” Isn’t it astonishing that you ask other people for numbers or for a reference to a study when you don’t provide such references?
And LC, what is a “real woman?” Care to define your term? I’m very, very interested in your answer…as well as your answer to Enigma at # 63.
Breathlessly waiting, hoping not to turn blue,
Loveschild,
Uriel-238, is in favor of separation of church and state. He used the Church of Satan (if that’s what they call themselves) as an example of a minority religion that deserved protection under the law. When you accused him of being a satanist, and went on and on about how you prayed for him because of it, he replied for the second time that he is a naturalist and that he doesn’t worship Satan. Maybe, you didn’t read his response or it flew over your head?
The term elder, I was using the meaning for older and more experienced. I’ve been in the scriptures for over a decade. Your 139 days of newly pronounced devotion doesn’t make you an authority on anything.
As to the rest of your illiterately written faux humble post. I do go to church, a conservative Protestant church. All we study is the Bible every week (the New International Version), we’re expository, so we read each book in the Bible verse by verse. Even though, we are conservative and believe that the Bible is God breathed, we focus on our own individual poverty, how we each fall short of God’s glory, we focus our energies on the community (homeless shelters, food banks, foster children, community resource for the elderly, etc.). We focus on our own logs, and not the splinter of our neighbors. It’s a nice community to worship in, we know we are all sinners in the company of other sinners, each seeking to extend grace to others and love the world as Christ loves it and sacrificed himself for it. We worship God, not the US, not marriage, not the “traditional” family, not any ethnicity, and not our community, but God. Only God: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Kim:
May you be well – may you be happy!
Nobody else thinks that the cock-gluing woman was actually playing out her S&M humiliation fantasies?
24, 26, 27 – you are nuts!!
24,26,27 – you are NUTS!!
65 Some women do behave like that former tri-state , it might help tho to try to seek to take a different approach because the problem may well indeed not be with you but on the circumstances and places that have surrounded you. First is your perspective, it need to change, when you choose a woman as your partner you are not tying yourself, don’t view it as a sentence, rather it’s more like the beginning of a whole new (sometimes challenging but always fulfilling) journey. Secondly, if your female peers do not see the qualities that make you a desirable partner even after you have made you best attempts at showing it to them and instead they bitch about other guys not being willing to come into union with them as man and wife, then expand your horizons to other circles where you will be appreciated because not only are they wasting your time but they’re also being disrespectful to you as a man. Hypocrisy might be prevalent especially in the intellectual and sexually libertine circles when it comes to men and women relations but it may also be that those circles have rejected and in so doing forgotten some of the basic principles that were good for said relationships, like placing more value on the inner beauty of the individual first and foremost, accentuating those characteristics that were particular to each gender and which made them more desirable to the opposite sex and the continuation of courtship manners that served not only for a more safe sexual intimacy once in marriage but also had the purpose of letting one to know better one’s boyfriend or girlfriend (as it would be in your case).
If the environment you’ve been in has not worked for you, then shake off the dust of your feet and consider maybe coming to a house of worship or similar like minded circles. I guarantee you that some of the ladies you will find there have both inner and outer beauty, and the desire of spending a lifetime with’ will not only be yours but that of your partner as well. Because the woman who you’ll find there and unites her journey in this life to yours will do so with a clear understanding of what she wants, and in pleasing you she will derive pleasure herself (if you get my drift).
You sound like a great man, if you truly want to spend your life with a woman you really love, I see you soon entering into a sacred union with a very lucky girl.
Loveschild … I’m not complaining about being slighted … I’m just as guilty as the next HUMAN BEING. I’m just complaining about being in the room and being blamed for the ills of all men, when I’m doing the best I can.
I’m just sick of the select few women in my surroundings that play the victim card … whoah is me, I am woman take care of me.
I’ve had to do it before, but I literally WRITE PEOPLE OFF when they use their misery to try keep me around. It’s the only merciful thing I can think of.
IF I do want to spend my life with someone, it will be with well … 1st someone I love, and someone I can build a future with. Until then life, goes on … I tried to edit some of my post, but to not generalize all women … but I guess it posted before I get to fix all the errors … and I was thinking about the gym and a minor rent crisis came up.
You know, as much I love Seattle, the economy, the nanny state, the disgustingly SLOW mail system and beauracracy is not making a great case for making this place livable
I would have been back in CT if I wasn’t (fortunately) tied down in my lease. Let’s face it, I’m not exactly long term bf material. I’ll just enjoy the pleasent company here and there, because when I was locked in my research lab getting my degree, it was so much worse!
Another Loveschild bitch fight to scroll over…
I gotta be real, he had it coming. When you play with fire… Your dick might get glued to your belly button.
And no … it’s not tying yourself down. It’s not life sentence. It should be an adventure. Many women I meet view a relationship as a security blanket. Hence I avoid them like the plague. Obviously, they are more in love with the relationship than the guys in them.
Loveschild has got to be a massive wind up as part of some warped attempt at a joke. I can’t believe that anyone who thinks the way Loveschild purports to think would willingly expose themselves to all the wonderful faggotry and debauchery that is Slog. I know there are plenty of crazy fundies out there, but would they really spend their time trawling these pages? I don’t buy it.
Their rage may not come entirely from the fact the Cassanova was sleeping around on them. In fact this guy is a con-artist and had ripped them all off for thousands and thousands of dollars each. I don’t think I’d super glue anyone’s dick for cheating, maybe yell and throw some shit around, but if the douche emptied my bank accounts and ran up my credit cards, there’d be hell to pay.
Hey Theo @ 69,
Thank you. I am well and I am filled with joy. I hope you are the same.
Kim, I’ve never met you, but I think I love you a little bit. Okay, a lot.
@80, take a number!
@80 I agree. I wish more Christians were like her.
Hey Love-shill, love the new avatar. By the way, how’s your infinitely loving God doing today?
C from Mass, Aussie Steve, and Memorex,
I love you all, too. You all, each in your own way, have captured a piece of my ever expanding heart. Thank you all.
74 Please forgive me if I even implied that you were complaining, that was not my intention. The feelings you’re expressing are very legitimate. You know I find it quite interesting that you say that the women in your surroundings (I assume atheist and humanist) like to play the victim card and want to be taken care of. You know all the women (religious) I’ve known and from which I have drawn my own character have been strong and independent, a far cry from the caricature that some like paint us as.
“IF I do want to spend my life with someone, it will be with well … 1st someone I love, and someone I can build a future with.”
Those are beautiful sentiments, I don’t know who are these women that seem to be unable to recognize how rare your feelings are in today’s world.
“I’m not exactly long term bf material.”
You most certainly aren’t, you’re husband material.
Don’t sell yourself short and expand your surroundings to women in other circles that you because of your beliefs (or lack thereof(don’t take it as disrespect on my part)) you have not consider to present yourself to. That’s all I’m saying.
Life’s to precious to live it unhappy, there’s always a way out, if Seattle is no longer doing it for you and you want to go back to New England then find a way to get back to where your heart is, if you’re a learned man you’ll be able to think of a solution.
I know as an atheist you don’t believe in God but since you have expressed such high values in your comments above I want to share with you a passage from which I’ve drawn strength when I have found myself in somewhat difficult circumstances.
‘Be strong and courageous! Don’t tremble or be terrified, because the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.'” Joshua 1:9
You’re a professional man, you seem to have real manly characteristics and a strong set of values. Why can’t you be successful and find a woman to share a lifetime with? There’s no reason why you can’t. So don’t remain static former tri-state that’s the worst thing you could do.
Find a way to be completely happy, both you and that very special lady waiting to find you deserve it.
# 77 Aussie Steve:
I used to wonder the same: now I think Loveschild is trawling these pages looking to convert someone. Look at all the advice she’s just lavished on Former Tri State – all warm and motherly – right after she snarls at Kim for being, of all things, unChristian.
Hey there Theo. After reading #84 I think you might be right. What do I know anyway? I’m just an interloper (got to get me to Seattle one of these days…).
Aussie Steve,
If you make it to Seattle, try and take the drive south to Portland (around 3 1/2 hours) and I’ll buy you a beer or whiskey.
And, Theo, the beer or whiskey offer is for you, too, if you make it to Portland.
Well, if we’re keeping tabs on who’s been a Christian the longest, I’m at 34+ years…
At Jesus’ feet was thrown a woman caught in adultery, and his response to those who felt justified in condemning her behavior was to turn the issue back on the accusers. “If you haven’t done something worthy of condemnation at some point, then I guess you have the right to hurl a rock at her.” Doesn’t seem to me like Jesus would be applauding the behavior of the women in this post.
The New Testament says whatever is “pure,” “lovely,” and “of good repute, think on these things” (Philippians 4:8). If someone thinks that the things people on this site say are impure, unlovely, and of ill repute, then perhaps that person should not spend time letting his or her mind dwell here?
I, on the other hand, am with Paul: “Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own Master he stands or falls, and stand he will, for the Lord is able to make him stand.” (Romans 14:4) Whenever anyone tells me that I “can’t” be a Christian because I haven’t lived up to their standards of “righteousness”, I point them right back to this one.
Hmph. I guess I don’t get a beer if I come to Portland. 🙂
Kim @ 58, that’s correct, that’s what I was getting at. Sorry if that was presumptuous, as I meant that she ought to be listening and learning from you.
Honestly … I was never THAT gung ho about a wife … It all comes in stages …
I think if there was one thing I learned about my folks … it was there second marriage that worked out. And basically, it was because there was no reason to NOT get married. My mom and step dad spent about 5 years togethor before tying the knot. My Dad and step mom … about a decade.
I’m not OVERLY concerned … it’s just hypocritical whining from friends that … to be honest, I’m not exactly sure why they are my friends …
oh yeah … with respect to the post … I have this strange feeling that they all deserve each other.
Does that sound horrible?
Loveschild:
I used to be Christian. It’s the continual one-upsmanship, holier-than-thou attitude of churchgoers such as yourself, that drove me away from my lovely Episcopal church. As it happens, the spiritual understanding I have come to since then suits me just fine, but seeing the same behavior I encountered in my teen years, reproduced here is really vexing. Your little snipefest with Kim, who started off being only kind to you – well, to everyone – is definitely not a truly Christian attitude.
In the book of Leviticus, it says, “The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself.”
From the book of Micah, it says, “What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love kindness and walk humbly with your God?”
From the Gospel of Matthew it says, “Do not judge, so that you may not be judged… Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own?”
And from Paul in the Letter to the Romans, “For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor heights, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation shall separate us from the love of God.”
LC, you judge; you do not love others as yourself, instead condemning them while claiming God’s love for them; you do not walk humbly; you are quick to find the fault with everyone else, but never, ever, with yourself.
You’re a perfect example of what’s wrong with the church. I long for the day we can all resist responding to your tricks, because then you’d get bored & leave. Seriously, Sloggers, LC = religious bully. & the way to make a bully stop is to just not respond. I know we don’t have the willpower to do so, but that’s what would do it. Alas.
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about not crazy-gluing your cheating hubby’s penis to his groin. But adultery, despite the whole David-Bathsheba affair, & the multiple wives: well, they frown upon it. Sometimes:
Ephesians 5:5 says: ” “No whoremonger, no unclean person hath an inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God.”
But: Lamech, Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and others all had multiple wives.
*shrug* The Bible can support many different positions.
Aahh, we’ll buy you a single malt scotch in Portland, 52-80. 12 years old sound right?
Fifty-Two-Eighty,
Get yourself to Portland and I’ll buy you that whiskey.
Matt @ 91,
No worries.
And Kim: if i’m ever in Portland, I;ll take you up on that offer. But I’m warning you, when I get drunk, I talk philosophy and then the queen of sciences, theolology! You may wish me to stick to Coke!
So how did this thread get from a cock glued to a stomach and morph into a discussion about a fairy tale book and some nutcase religion?
Some men wish their cock was long enough to glue to their stomach.
Thanks, Juniegirl.
I’ve only been a Christian for about 30 years, it’s only in the last 11 years that I’ve been heavy in the Bible study part. I appreciate your comments.
Kim if you buy me a whiskey I’ll love you even more than I do now. Especially if it’s that stuff they make down in Kentucky. Matter of fact, I think I’ll have one this evening and toast your health. Elijah (good biblical name) Craig seems equal to the task…