What are the odds that a lot of closeted gay kids go to Christian colleges? High, I’d say. And what are the odds that lots of closeted gay kids at Christian colleges—and their closeted profs, closeted staffers, closeted youth pastors, et al—download and watch a whole lot of gay porn? Also high. So what are the odds that a student at a Christian college who appears in gay porn under a pseudonym is gonna get caught? Higher still, as it turns out.
Twenty-two-year-old John Gechter, of Philadelphia, was suspended for one year pending appeal from Grove City College after a student saw him last month in a video posted online.
Gechter is appealing the suspension and says he may sue claiming that the gay porn job isn’t any of the school’s business, especially since he performed using the name “Vincent DeSalvo.” Gechter says he used his porn income to pay for his schooling. School officials say Gechter is suspended because Gechter was well aware his porn involvement “exhibited behavior contrary to the values” of the school about 50 miles north of Pittsburgh.
Gechter is the one on the left:
You can see more of him—much, much more—here. There’s no word on whether any disciplinary action was taken against the student/snitch who was downloading and watching Gechter’s work.
I wish the handle “student” still belonged to the Mudede troll.
Judging by our Student commenter, the curriculum at Grove doesn’t seem to emphasize spelling or grammar…or are “sememsters” different in some way from semesters? And, would the Administration approve of you looking at this scandalous website?
Alright upyours,
I’ll let you pretend that you aren’t just backing down because I refuted your points and called you a hypocrite. But I actually do have the right to “spread the word.” It’s this little thing called the First Amendment. You’re still wrong on the legal aspect of the case as well. It is perfectly within the right of a private institution to set behavioral guidelines governing student action while enrolled, as long as no one’s rights are violated. No one’s rights have been violated.
Oh, and the stick up my ass is for people who judge denounce and degrade others based on their religion, bash the school all you want, but I don’t see what you could really bash other than the fact that we are Christian, which makes you a bigot, or on the majority Conservatism, which is a valid argument if you can back it up. But certainly don’t try to argue with a viewpoint thoughtlessly, or you will be stuck in the position you are in now: defeated.
who is backing down……i’m just tired of dealing with a little christian grove city college asshole. think what u want. you remind me so much of my deceased ( thank god) father. you’re way is the only way and fuck those that dont agree with u. so.. if you’d like.. twist that stick a little every once in a while when u think of me… because .. yes.. i am a bigot when it comes to religious morons. i’m hardly defeated….just bored with u. buh bye now lil boy. ( by the way…….i did what i intended… got some grove city shithead stirred up)
Thanks, Michael. I did hit ‘m’ one too many times there, so I guess you can take my spelling grade down. I’ll take a 99%. But my grammar is better than yours: an ellipses is not proper punctuation.
Oh upyours,
Who’s stirred up? You are the one resorting to insults. I’m pretty certain I have been rational and calm throughout this little debate.
Who’s intolerant of other’s lifestyles? You are a self-proclaimed bigot, and hence a self-proclaimed hypocrite.
There. I did what I intended and got you to admit what you really are.
as i said before.. so many right winged christians.. so few lions
Nazi-like tendencies. Kill those who disagree. You sound a lot like gay bashers. Also, he has an innate inability to leave without the last word.
Also, I’m not right wing. Registered Democrat.
The guy that turned him in is the head of the Studen Government Association (complete dousche-fuck), but no he didn’t get in trouble. Actually, he was on the appeal board that shut gechter down. The only problem with getting the person in trouble that found the picture is that pretty much everyone at the college has seen them and no one knows who actually found it (I think one of the wanna-be frats got it out). But anyway, yeah the kid’s bi (believe me and all the girls on campus that he’s gotten dirty with), and honestly I think it’s appalling and immature that my fellow Grove City Students would treat him like this. I mean honesty, who hasn’t had gay sex for a little extra spending money (kidding). Seriously though, I heard talk that they were going to suspend him and let him take a summer course and transfer it in for his last credit then send him the diploma. Sounds decent enough to me.
If that was supposed to be wrong why was the one that snitched looking at such material. He should be punished also for looking at such things. If you are not allowed to perform in them you should not be allowed to look at them either. Sounds like a double standard if you ask me. They claim they are basing their descision on the Bible but in the King James version Jesus never says anything in his words about homosexuality but He does say that if a woman is divorced any one that lies down with her is a sinner. Yet no one condems people that marry and divorce multiple times. Society thinks that is OK. Jesus did not!!! Bob
Bob,
While Jesus might not have addressed the issue directly, I don’t think you are reading the Old Testament. You may have heard of this famous one though, it’s the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Look it up.
Wow. Leave him alone, guys. I was stupid (not in the same way, though) when I was a kid. That’s why he’s in school. He’ll know better.
He is also a nude stripper at a gay club in Pittsburgh, would that get him kicked out of school twice then?
Good Lord, is that boy hungry, or what?? Besides, in my opinion, he’s too young and too small, so like any good fisherman, it’s “catch-and-release.” Just throw him back into the water, until he’s a little bit bigger.
@ 5: that’s hilarious.
@ 10: I am so with you on that. The guy on the right is gorgeous. Although the video clip Dan linked to is pretty hot in general, not gonna lie…
Student, you’re a moron. GCC is a fucked-up place. It has NO right mandating that its students (adults) canNOT have premarital sex, that won’t stand up in court ever. No one gets to tell anyone else what to do, I don’t care what papers you signed. He should fight this and rub GCC’s nose in it when they lose. But you’re still a moron, mainly because you’re a Christian. Christians are morons by definition. They ought to be bashed continuously everywhere. They don’t deserve respect. They are cowards who want everything their way.
allofyoucandropdead,
I assure you, it will definitely stand up in court if it comes down to it. Ask a lawyer of any age, race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. The US Constitution, which gives us our rights as Americans, also gives us the right to give those rights up. He did so willingly. The legal principle of Freedom of Association gives private institutions the right to enforce these agreements and has been consistently held up in the US legal system. They are some of the same laws that protect labor unions.
Seeing as you are a blatantly bigotted, incredibly ignorant, obviously under-educated, hypocrit, piece of shit, I suppose I won’t be too harsh on you for your idiocy in your attitude towards Christianity. But I will say it’s a good thing people don’t take much stock in what people like you and upyours (who I’m pretty sure might just be you) think. It’s people like you that lead to things like slavery, the KKK, and genocide. I think a coward is someone who sits behind his computer and reels off hate messages towards people he doesn’t know based on their personal beliefs, and I am inclined to think the people on this website would agree with me on that point. Feel free to express your opinions, it is your right as an American. But you are wrong about the rights of private institutions and you are wrong about Christians.
By the way allofyoucandropdead,
John Gechter still considers himself a Christian, as any number of post-incident interviews with him has confirmed. He has just gone through a hard time with some things, as you may have read in the article above. I find it really terribly insensitive of you to publicly “bash” and disrespect him like this. I’ll continue to pray for him, and maybe double it up now that I know whack jobs like you are out there publicly proclaiming him a “moron” based on his religion.
Enjoyed the humorous and ironic comments, and also the debate between an intelligent and respectful (for the most part) “Student” and his mentally overmatched adversary. I am peripherally familiar with Grove City College through my involvement with various freedom-loving organizations and forums. I am regularly solicited to support the college financially. I was unaware of their puritanical policies until now, so I am grateful that I’ve passed on their requests, choosing other freedom-loving institutions to support.
I also lend financial support to the gay porn industry. I think it is very unfortunate that GCC does not have room for someone with John Gechter’s talents, but I would defend to the death (read that more rhetorically than literally) the right of GCC to run their private institution any way they want to (I hope you grammarians will forgive me for ending a sentence with a preposition). I commend GCC for resisting the heavy hand of an Uncle Sam who would dearly like to dictate their policies. Student is right that their questioned policy would hold up in court (at least until Obama has had enough time to appoint appropriately empathetic judges).
I’ll end with a proposition for Student (no, not that kind of proposition since he seems to be straight). No student should leave GCC as a registered Democrat (somewhat surprised to learn that the school accepts your type). I hope you will explore the exciting principles of libertarian philosophy and thereby graduate a truly well educated young man.
Just realized now that Student has the distinction of being 69 among the commenters. His secret is safe with me. Given the circumstances, my lips are (regrettably) sealed.
Thanks Freedomlover, I especially love the part about the “mentally overmatched adversary.”
Now I would like to make a confession. I lied. I am not a registered Democrat at all. I was just trying to invoke some thought on the part of the others in the discussion. I’m one of those, research and vote on principle over party people, and I have a conservative leaning. We do, however, have a Democratic party club with at least 15 members. And while I see wisdom in Libertarian policy, I won’t vote for it until it is amended to be a little less idealistic and a little more plausible.
Thanks again!
to #54 upyoursgc
It is lamentable that from a “Christian” community, someone so brimming with bitterness can emerge. It is clear you had no basic advantages given to those who attend GCC, such as parental love and support, family values, exposure to higher education, and I am guessing your family was on public assistance, correct? I had the love of my parents and they did their best, and I suppose I should try to understand where you are coming from, but–
It is not too late to make a difference in the world or in your own life. You can still learn, find classes to advance your future. Stop “thanking God” that your father is dead. Doesn’t that stand in stark opposition to your “atheism”? Start wondering what you can do to brighten the world. Gechter’s problems are nothing compared to yours.
You are forgiven for your white lie, Student, and redeemed intellectually by your confession. I have encountered so many young people who can’t figure out where they fit in the Republican/Democrat divide, only to discover that they are, in fact, lower-case libertarians in search of an upper-case party. All the best to you.