What are the odds that a lot of closeted gay kids go to Christian colleges? High, I’d say. And what are the odds that lots of closeted gay kids at Christian colleges—and their closeted profs, closeted staffers, closeted youth pastors, et al—download and watch a whole lot of gay porn? Also high. So what are the odds that a student at a Christian college who appears in gay porn under a pseudonym is gonna get caught? Higher still, as it turns out.

Twenty-two-year-old John Gechter, of Philadelphia, was suspended for one year pending appeal from Grove City College after a student saw him last month in a video posted online.

Gechter is appealing the suspension and says he may sue claiming that the gay porn job isn’t any of the school’s business, especially since he performed using the name “Vincent DeSalvo.” Gechter says he used his porn income to pay for his schooling. School officials say Gechter is suspended because Gechter was well aware his porn involvement “exhibited behavior contrary to the values” of the school about 50 miles north of Pittsburgh.

Gechter is the one on the left:

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You can see more of him—much, much more—here. There’s no word on whether any disciplinary action was taken against the student/snitch who was downloading and watching Gechter’s work.

74 replies on “What Were The Odds?”

  3. This is very shortsighted on the part of the college. If they kick out all the gay guys hot enough to do porn, who will they have left for furtive, shameful encounters around campus?

  8. Grove City College is a strange, strange place. No one is allowed to walk on the grass in certain areas of campus, and they have extremly archaic rules regarding visitors of the opposite sex (all four feet on the floor at all times, doors can’t be closed, very limited hours, gender-based cafeterias, and a smaller mixed-gender one).

    After a tour, I got in the car with my parents and told them to quickly drive away and they agreed. Granted, I then went to an even smaller, Catholic school, but even they were far more progressive and realistic about their students personal lives.

  11. I went to a Xtian school in redneck Idaho with a high school class totalling 5 males.

    Three turned out queer.

    You do the math…

  12. @8 is right. Grove City is weird. They are really, really conservative up there, to the point where they don’t accept any federal or state money in the form of student grants or loans because they don’t want any government interference with their school at all. Men and women are kept pretty separated, and are encouraged to “court” rather than date – meaning group dates only, handholding and chaste kissing, etc.

    I considered it briefly, mainly because it was close to home (which was Pittsburgh at the time) and were offering a pretty nice financial aid package (back then they still accepted federal and state grants, too – they stopped during the Clinton administration). I, too, ended up at a Catholic college (though a slightly larger one) where they pretty much stayed out of their students’ personal lives and even encourgaged discussion and debate on campus about issues like abortion.

  14. been there – christian college in the midwest ( separate gendered dorms, open house for three hours on sundays, no closed doors, no drinking, no dancing – because it lead to sex, required chapel every day) that’s where i learned about circle jerks from a room mate, first heard the word ‘cum’ from the (same room mate – who hated dr king because his parents told him that he was communist ) and gave a LOT of backrubs.. a LOT.
    but i didn’t do porn.ummm. i didn’t appear in porn..

  15. Wait, this is on Randy Blue? How did I miss this?

    Pardon me, I have something I need to attend to.

    Um, praise Jesus!

  16. So glad I depend on the real news every am from Slog – really folks – interesting, slightly, but news?

    by: going to the NYT first from now on

  19. So did anyone else see Dan’s post blaming rap music for the problems in the black community? Or am I losing my mind? It was here for a second and the gone.

  21. Sit down girls, and try not to faint:
    part of diversity is the fact that some people choose not to engage in ButtSex or make ButtSex porno. And people who make those choices are free to have schools for like minded people. And when someone breaks the rules that they agreed to follow before they were admitted to the school they should expect to get kicked out. Without a refund. (but wait, lying is OK if it is done to make ButtSex porn!!)
    Because; again you may want to sit down; not everyone’s existence revolves around ButtSex.

  24. 21, You obsessively talk about buttsex more than anyone else on slog. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

  25. 22, Hi my sockpuppet stalker. You know you’re never going to get to touch my dick, no matter how much you beg.

  27. @26: Agreed!

    And that four feet on the ground rule? Very odd… Cuz I can think of very fun ways to fuck with all four feet on the ground… And in some cases a couple of hands too.

  29. This may be an obvious question, but where did “a student” see said video? How does the school feel about students surfing for buttsex, possibly even from a college owned network?

  30. @17
    Perhaps bad wording on my part…everyone’s feet on the floor at all times. Although like mentioned above, still could have lots of fun with it.

    @12
    Yeah, close to home (Pittsburgh) and for a while they had a promo going where everyone got a free laptop and printer. And then I toured the place… I ended up at St. Vincent (Latrobe), and while not as crazy as GC, certainly didn’t encourage real discussion, and certainly not about abortion. I had to fight and claw just to get some halfway decent ecumenical discussion and even that was given a wary eye.

  31. fine looking young men in that there photo … definitely gave me a smile today!

    but yeah, about the whole christian college/homo thing? what are the odds? very, very high. if the cc/h folks i know are an accurate sampling, then yes. very, very high.

  32. I wish they played the preppy thing – better buzz in my groin

    And black underwear is so over – the Stranger creeps closer and closer to more porn…. OK, but get some taste in men

  33. Sorry but if you are going to a cult school with these set of values you know what you are getting into. By going to a school with these value you are accepting what their mission statement is saying. Didn’t he have hundreds of other colleges to choice from? Take responcilbity for your action. If it is a private school with these set of values and you choice to go there then your arguement loses value. Many schools have these type of values that must be followed whether you are in school or on your free time. This is understood when you go to these cult schools. (Brainwashing University) Using the arguement that you did this to pay for school is the same as saying you sold pot to go to school. Our society is becoming one were when you get caught you blame others rather then take responcibilty for your actions. I feel that these are the same type of people who eventually will cheat on their spouses or will get caught in some gay scandel down the road. There is nothing wrong with gay sex but don’t do the deed that is on the internet and then protest later. Enjoy the sex and find another school.

  34. @25
    Yeah, sorry to hear about the accident.
    Who would have guessed you could cut your dick off sitting on a poorly designed unstable toilet seat? (of course, the designers didn’t probably expect anyone with a dick to be sitting down to pee…) Good luck with the catheter and lawsuit.

  35. Is Grove City even a Christian college? Or just a right-wing conservative college?

    I was under the impression it was better known for its politics than its religion.

  36. like the town it is in….grove city college is comprised of puritanical, uptight, republican presbyterians who use their alleged religious beliefs as an excuse to stay in the 17th century. i have no doubt that these people would still be burning ” witches and herotics” in the center of town if they could legally get away with it. having had to come back to this hell hole for an extended period of time due to family issues… i have remembered all the reasons i left this place the 1st time and have added about 1000 other items to the list for my next departure. ok.. so the boy was on his knees ( …. and back…and face down…etc) in some videos.. this college forces the students to go to chapel 3 times a week …he was just on his knees for reasons other than what the college intended! i mean…grove city college blows too… where’s the problem? lol

  39. I would like to enlighten some people on a few things about this case. His suspension has nothing to do with the fact that it is gay porn, but that it is PORN at all. School rules prohibit premarital sex. Similar punishments are handed out to heterosexuals on GCC campus as well. Gechter was fully aware of these policies. He has no ground to stand on.

    And now, to address some Grove City myths and policies.

    Yes, there is a chapel requirement, but it is not every day, or even three times a week. Students have to attend 16 a sememster, which equals one a week. Call that brainwashing if you like, but it is a religious school. Is a weekly dose of religion really that surprising?

    Dorms are gender spearated, and there are rules for intervisitation. All the students hate it. There are NOT, however, gender separated cafeterias. There are several recreational facilities open 24/7 to both genders.

    95% of students DATE. A few court, but that doesn’t mean group dates, it means that they involve their families in the process and have the intention of eventual marriage. Most people just date though.

    Call us Christians whatever you want, but that just makes you a hypocrite. Discrimination against religion is still discrimination. The word for this witch hunt you are conducting of Christians is called “persecution.” You know, when you take a group of people and make judgements about them based on stereotypes and ignorance? Look in the mirror.

  41. Well I guess he got what he wanted, “Advertisement”, now every one will want to buy it and have it in their collection. Go figure. Hope he becomes a millionaire and not even have to go to college. There is no where in the King James version of the Bible that states in Jesus words against homosexuality. He does, however speak of a woman that is divorced and another man takes up with her it is wrong and yet most people never mention that when they find out that a woman or man has been married several times (after divorce) society turns their head. If God can forgive that he will surely forgive the homosexual.

  42. @30 – Yeah, St. Vincent is a little more conservative.

    I went to Gannon University in Erie, which in those days was pretty liberal/progressive for a Catholic university. My freshman year, one of the students living in universtity owned apartments put a sign in her window that said “Pro-Choice and Proud”. Not only did the university not make her take it down, it sparked all kinds of debate on campus about respect life issues and freedom of speech/freedom of religion.

    Of course Gannon, like so many other Catholic instituions recently, has swung further to the right in recent years. It makes me kind of sad.

  43. ok.. so. policies have changed. chapel requirements were 3 times a week as little as 5 yrs ago. as far as being a hypocrite….that couldnt be more untrue. i’ve been on the
    “christian” side of the fence…and let me tell you that there isnt a more judgemental, hypocritical group of people with a penchant for persecution on the face of the earth( remember the crusades and the reformation?). “believers” expect to be able to live their lives according to their beliefs ( they want prayer back in schools….to display xmas and easter decorations….come door to door ” witnessing for the lord”)… however, non-believers and people of other faiths are persecuted daily by ” the church” for wanting live their lives by their own beliefs or lack thereof.

    however, thats not the topic here.. I still say what is done off campus is none of the schools business. none of this would have ever come up if some closet case hadnt been whacking to pics on the web.. found the sites john was on.. and decided to spread the news. ( btw.. what is the punishment for the kid who was looking at the porn??) i also am of the opinion ( being the articles are saying he’s been at gcc for four years..i’m assuming he’s a senior) that graduation is this month.. let him graduate.. he’s gone.. problem solved. OR.. if he still has another year of college to go.. let him transfer his credits to another school and get on with his life… again. .prblem solved.

  44. @17 beat me to it. So, doesn’t that preclude walking? Or do you have to sort of shuffle your feet if you’re walking with someone?

  46. ok upyoursgcc,

    I get it. It’s ok to judge and condemn people as long as they are Christian.

    I think that your reply shows exactly what I am talking about. You are on this public website, preaching anti-Christianity based on what the “Church” does. First of all, what is this “Church?” There hasn’t been an established church in over one hundred years. Christians today are grouped by something called denomination. Denominations interpret scripture differently. Several denominations even include homosexuals. Are these Christians judgemental persecutors? Or are you actually making statements about a diverse group of free-thinking people based on the stereotype of the fundamentalist Christian? Actually, if you read the entire article this is pulled from, John himself still claims to be a Christian. He also says that GCC is an excellent institution. His differences are legal. Since all Christians are close-minded, he must really be hounding himself.

    As for your reference to the Crusades and the Reformation, I don’t see what you are trying to say. The Crusades were an attempt to regain the Holy Land, fueled mainly by non-religious reasons (greed, power, corruption) and organized by a corrupt Pope who took advantage of pious and uneducated soldiers. No educated Christians today justify the Crusades. And the Reformation? A group of Christians had theological and sacramental differences of opinion and split from the Catholic church. Where’s the persecution?

    The school suspended a student for violating rules he was fully aware of before violating them. That’s their right as a private institution, just as it was his right to violate them. He isn’t being persecuted for being gay. The only ones judging people publicly for their beliefs would be you and your friends. Now I am going to judge you based on your actions.

    You, sir, are a hypocrite.

  47. Also,

    “i’ve been on the
    “christian” side of the fence…and let me tell you that there isnt a more judgemental, hypocritical group of people with a penchant for persecution on the face of the earth( remember the crusades and the reformation?).”

    You obviously aren’t aware of the Muslim word jihad. Read the Koran if you want some gay-bashing, woman-hating fun. There are also neo nazis, the KKK, and militant atheists that all are easily more judgemental and hypocritical.

  48. Oi, a couple of problems.

    That photo has ween. Surely there is some sort of (possibly laminated) note that says “Don’t get the slog readers fired” or something.

    ALSO, this new registered comments thing is FUCKING POINTLESS if I cant click on #17’s picture and get some sort of profile so I can bang him. I mean that guy is hot COME ON PEOPLE.

  50. i’m not going to argue with u.. obviously u have a stick up your ass for anyone who dares to bash your fair gcc. the ‘ gay’ part of this makes no difference to me. i believe everyone has the right to live as they want without interference from others. christians,muslims, and any other religion who is evangelical think they have the right to “spread the word* i AM athiest and do not wish to deal with religion in any way, shape or form. society should be entirely secular outside of ones own home or church or religious school. what happens outside of those places is ones own business. I still say unless he was filming on college property..it’s none of the schools business.

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