You tell me that if I talk to her about it to try to circumvent this
atrocity from happening that I’d be overstepping my boundaries, that
I’d be entering crazy-girlfriend territory, and that you’d never speak
to me again. Well, fuck you: You’re already in crazy territory for
wanting to seduce your own cousin.

When I tell you it’d make me extremely unhappy, you tell me I’m
trying to control you. You tell me that it’s none of my business and
compare me to an Old Testament god, and I feel like you don’t give two
shits about me or the future of our relationship. Telling me to grow up
and be nonjudgmental just won’t cut it. You know that I won’t take it
well. I’ve been giving you a hard time about it, and I’m going to keep
giving you a hard time about it because it bothers me. You’re not going
to turn me on to the “wonderful world of incest”—not now or
ever.

If you can’t think of any downside to your taboo little fantasy,
you’re fucking nuts. I don’t care how much sexual tension there is
between you two when you wrestle in your underwear. I’m not the only
girlfriend you’ll have to explain your affair to down the line, and I’m
not the only girl who’ll think it’s totally gross. Have fun socially
ostracizing yourself. recommended

73 replies on “I, Anonymous”

  2. So did it actually happen or did he just fantasize about it? If he doesn’t want the cousin to know he’s hot for her, I doubt anything has happened or will happen.

  4. The Hapsburg kings of Spain all agree: incest is great! It not only preserves feudal holdings in the family, it also produces superior stock by not mixing royal blood with that of lesser mortals!

    I, Charles II of Spain, approve this message!

  5. first cousin marriage is quite common in other societies (even if it probably leads to inbreeding-related issues). sibling fucking is taboo everywhere.

  7. Oh Jeez, sexual tension between cousins, been there as the girlfriend. I bet they mercilessly flirt all the time right in front of you. First poster, was right DTMFA!

  9. First cousin marriage (and by extension, fucking) is legal in 19 of these United States, provided the cousins in question are of the opposite sex. Recent studies by actual, non-cousin-fucking (at least not all of them) scientists show that cousin couplings produce no more sub-par offspring than non-cousin couplings with 40+ year old women. It may be gross to the writer, but it isn’t a universal taboo, even in this country where a sizable faction of coots live to make sex no fun for everyone.

  10. Messed around with my cousin… What’s the big fucking deal? Cousins are really no different than close friends. Cousins don’t live together, may or may not even visit often, become friends by proximity. I had childhood friends that were seen more often and closer to me than many of my cousins.

    I spent too many years worried that people would shun me for having messed around with a cousin. Well, turns out, most people don’t give a shit and/or have done the same. My first boyfriend and those following have been nothing but understanding. They know that cousins are not like siblings and that bonds vary. Would it help if the cousin in question were only seen once a year during major holidays?

    Tell *HER LOVER* to DTMFA – the poster sounds obsessive, uptight, repressed and controlling, especially when it’s all kept in the realm of fantasy. This passive-aggressive bullshit will only get worse as the years go by. If she had any balls to follow her conviction, she’d have left already. Instead, she just wants to manipulate her lover into a neat little box that she can feel good about keeping.

    So, to her lover, run, do not walk, away from this crazy (probably a religious zealout) girlfriend. Your time with her will only whittle you down to nothing as she will dangle this over your head and likely use it on you many times more to manipulate you into doing what she wants. What a bitch…

    T.

    p.s. Who here hasn’t had a twin fantasy? That, by the way, would be true incest. Hot still, no?

  11. Posted by Shanna: “First cousin marriage (and by extension, fucking) is legal in 19 of these United States, provided the cousins in question are of the opposite sex. Recent studies by actual, non-cousin-fucking (at least not all of them) scientists show that cousin couplings produce no more sub-par offspring than non-cousin couplings with 40+ year old women. It may be gross to the writer, but it isn’t a universal taboo, even in this country where a sizable faction of coots live to make sex no fun for everyone.”

    Exactly.

  12. Responding to Sbanna; A recent ‘Science or Fiction’ in The Skeptic’s Guide to the Universe discussed that study:

    http://www.theskepticsguide.org/skeptics…

    You’re absolutely correct. What surprised me more though is the host’s remarks that we probably had a lot more babies from cousins in early man and that may have made our population a bit more stable over the course of our evolution. It’s a good listen (in the last segment)

    So, yeah, given that A) The disparity is great enough that it carries minimal risks to, say, any offspring (3.6%?) and B) Most people see their cousins so infrequently… I think the poster needs to get a grip.

    Oh, and yeah, hot twin fantasy comment is true. But maybe to make it less creepy I’ll change my fantasy to hot gay boy clones. Or humanoid cylons, whatever.

  13. The basic problem…

    You can pick your nose, you can pick your ass, but you can’t pick your family.

    When you have sex with your cousin, you will have to face them for the rest of your lives.

  14. I had sex with my cousin when we were younger. we were hot for each other and she is beautiful sexy. I don’t think it’s a big deal. good times.

  16. It’s fine to fuck your cousin. go ahead, have a secret affair this winter even, and play bf-gf for a couple months. AND I’M SURE THANKSGIVINGS AND CHRISMAS VISITS AND ANY OTHER FAMILY AFFAIR BETWEEN 2009 AND 2050 WILL BE JUST A BLAST WITH YOU TWO. And your aunt and uncle will be fine about it too if he should be so unfortunate to find out, no family tension between mom and her brother at all!

    You know what else is good? Uncles fucking underage nieces! I know, it’s not the same, but it likewise makes for a lifetime of good memories once everyone gets over the disgust and betrayal. You’ll all just laugh about it some day.

  17. Can that guy, the one named Dan Savage, who works at this fucking paper, and has preached in his column and on his podcast that 1st cousin sexual encounters are genetically and emotionally safe chime in here? And can the cunt that wrote this stop fucking complaining because her boyfriend’s cousin is hotter than her and he’s more attracted to his cousin than her. I think there’s a phrase for what she is: a sore-loser.

  18. I keep reading a bunch of Regency Rrrrromances by Georgette Heyer and others featuring cousins marrying cousins and no one minding a bit. Turns out it was standard practice. The interesting thing about that time and place was a man couldn’t marry his brother’s widow. That was illegal and in very bad, bad taste. those wacky ancestors. (And, oh, those weak chins. Hmmmm)

  19. Producing children with a sibling doesn’t usually cause many problems in the first generation, so procreating with your cousin probably wouldn’t be such a big deal. The problem would be if the cousin-fucker’s kids also wanted to fuck a relative. And then, if THAT generation also fucked family…and on and on and on until it’s like any small town in backwoods Missouri.

  22. Yeah, I dunno. I’ve got a couple of hot cousins that I only see occasionally and I can’t really envision any reason not to tap that.

  24. T.

    What are you, a hillbilly? You see nothing wrong with it?! It’s not about how often you see a cousin vs. a friend, it’s the bloodline you idiot. Cousins are blood relatives, (ie., a parents’ sibling’s child, unless they were adopted (the child or the sibling of a parent)).

    Gee, can’t find anyone to screw that isn’t family, huh?

  25. Maybe I’m missing something here, but it sounds to me like the guy wants to fuck around with another woman, and because it’s his cousin, he thinks that’s supposed to be okay? Call me old fashioned or whatever, but I’m not down with my man fucking around with ANYONE else, cousin or no. The fact that it’s his cousin only proves that he’s not just a self-centered jerk, he’s a really creepy, self-centered jerk. DTMFA, for pete’s sake.

  26. OK, the cousin part is weird. The rest of it is standard lame ass relationship shit. DTMFA, even if it wasn’t their cousin it’d be wrong.

  27. it’s not just a feeling if he’s trying to fuck someone else–he doesn’t care about you and doesn’t give a shit about the relationship.

  28. Totally agree with don’t waste time and dwight moody. I don’t care what incest crap you get into- incest doesn’t make it not cheating. One does not negate the other.
    Also- there is no such thing as a one night stand with a cousin- you will ALWAYS have to hear about and/or see that person.
    also: gross. just gross.

  31. See, I don’t give a fig about the incest.

    It’s the pressuring her and threatening to never speak to her again. He’s a jackass, get rid of him.

  32. I got a couple cousins I’d love to fuck. But what my wife and I love to talk about is fucking my sister. Now THAT is one hot piece of ass!

  33. sounds like this guy is better off with his cousin then the nut job writing the letter. this broad would have me on smack in a week!

  36. wait a second, they edited out a crucial detail that’s in the print version. IT’S ONLY HIS HALF-COUSIN. he’s not related to her by blood at all. who fucking cares. definitely not anything to get worked up about. also, it doesn’t say what kind of cousin. So is it his half 3rd cousin twice removed??? I mean really, this girl is getting way worked up about nothing.

  37. I don’t know man, I used to fool around with my cousin when I was younger..and now I wonder how badly I’d want to fuck my cousin if it wasn’t such a naughty thing to do.

  41. I did my cousin after many years of correspondence and sexual tension. It was great safe-sex fun. I probably wouldn’t mention it to anyone I would consider being in a relationship with. None of their business anyway.

  43. hahaha….thats hilarious Nah, if you were really her cousin, you’d know that she got fat and grouchy in the last couple of years.

  48. marrying your first cousin is legal in the UK. I don’t see what your problem is. Its totally different from fucking a sibling, with whom you are likely to share half your DNA

  50. To the poster who thought this was just fantasy – I think the post speaks for itself – the girlfriend wants to “circumvent [big word for get around, though I think she probably means stop] this atrocity from happening.” From happening, meaning that the boyfriend is active about wanting it to happen, and perhaps trying to make it happen. Though, I think probably the cousin would know that the possibility is on the table too, given all the wrestling in the underwear, making the girlfriend’s threats to “tell her” a little pointless (unless people in this family are afraid of direct communication). I don’t wrestle members of my family in my underwear, or people I’m not intending to fuck generally.

    Now, on to the relationship between the non-related couple. It’s fine for there to be a degree of openness in the relationship, and even a degree of cousin fucking if that’s what both parties agree upon – but the problem here is that the girlfriend has made it clear that this situation makes her uncomfortable, and that it threatens the future of this relationship.

    I’d like to know where their agreement on third parties stood before this cousin incident, and perhaps it’s time to renegotiate. If she’s the primary partner, and he’s not taking her opinion or her feelings into account, that’s a problem. There have to be boundaries in any successful open relationship, and it sounds like this one is skating on thin gray area. Good luck girlfriend! And if this guy does this cousin, despite you having asked him not to, decide if this is something you’re willing to negotiate into your relationship. If it’s not (and I expect it isn’t) DTMFA, for not considering your feelings, and for doing something outside the boundaries of your open relationship.

    ps I have not had a twin fantasy. And I think it’s not hot specifically for the incest reason.

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