The Turf, a venerable downtown diner that is dear to my heart, passed away last month. The owner, a man named Greg Rosas who started at the Turf as a dishwasher when he emigrated from the Philippines 33 years ago, has changed the menu, raised the prices, and changed the name to Ludi’s.
Why? Because many of the people who went to the Turf were poor, and the poor are getting so poor that they couldn’t afford to go there anymore.
The Turf was a first-of-the-month bar, a place where people went to get their government relief checks cashed and buy themselves a beer, a grilled-cheese sandwich, and a couple of pull tabs. But those government relief checks and general-assistance payouts are evaporating, Rosas says, as is his clientele.
After Danny Westneat announced the change in the Seattle Times, some people got sanctimonious and derisive in the comment thread about the closing of the Turf and people using their welfare money to buy beer and grilled-cheese sandwiches and pull tabs. But those customers were buying something else as well: some comfort, some human connection, some feeling of society. And sometimes a little human connection is the only thing that keeps a person—lonely and poor, or just plain lonely—from going around the bend.
The first time I went to the Turf was in the late 1990s. It was on First Avenue at the time, closer to the Pike Place Market, back when the Mirror Tavern was still across the street and drug people called that strip, where they went to score, “the Blade.”
I was a little bewildered when I first walked in—I’d never seen any place quite like it. (I think I was underage.) A vegetable-monger who worked at the Pike Place Market had taken me there for a roommate interview.
See, I wanted to move into the toolshed behind a house on Beacon Hill. A friend of mine owned the house but lived with two or three other people, all of whom had agreed on veto power over roommate choices. Fair enough. Everybody agreed I could live in the toolshed, except one person—the veggie-monger wanted to meet me for a drink before he gave his thumbs-up. So we went to the Turf.
The place was narrow and smoky and looked like something from Cinderella Liberty, the 1973 movie about old Seattle, back when it was a rowdy port city. The atmosphere was both depressed and juiced, like a cypress swamp with an electric current running through the water. The crowd was more wizened than what I was used to. Some were silent, and some were talking and laughing softly. The round woman behind the bar didn’t ask for my ID when I nervously approached. She just gave me a big smile, called me “honey,” and (if I remember correctly) reached across the counter to pat my cheek. My bartender-grandma. I followed the veggie-monger’s lead and ordered a can of beer and a Crown Royal neat.
As he and I sat and talked—the conversation was boring and inconsequential—I noticed the Turf had a repeating, bifurcated parade. Every 20 minutes or so, a few guys would come through selling stuff: CDs, car stereos, an old Native American guy selling what he said were eagle feathers. Then, a few minutes later, two uniformed cops would walk through, look around lazily, and leave. It was like they were on a preset rotational schedule. Nobody paid any mind to the peddlers or to the cops.
The veggie-monger and I finished our conversation* and left. But I kept coming back, sometimes to sit and read (it was pretty well-lit—it’s hard to find a good reading bar), or sometimes just to sit. It seemed like the kind of place where, if your money was green and you didn’t punch anybody, you could do whatever you wanted. You could read a book, pick your nose, strike up a conversation with a stranger, holler at the television, stare into space, eat four baskets of french fries soaked in two bottles of ketchup—whatever you wanted to do, whoever you were, however you wanted to be. Just as long as you kept it peaceful.
There was a comfort, an almost Christlike acceptance of all comers that I’ve never felt in any other diner or bar. (I have heard stories from people who have felt distinctly unwelcome there, including the time three friends walked in and the bartender greeted them by glaring and loudly slapping a rubber rat on the bar. I believe those stories. I just never experienced that kind of thing myself.**)
It was also an unusually integrated place—racially, economically, age-wise. There were old white people and young Asian people and middle-aged black people. There were folks on their way to work, folks just getting off work, old ladies in their bathrobes, guys in tracksuits who wore sunglasses indoors, veggie-mongers from the Pike Place Market, dorks like me. Some people went to the Turf to be together, and some went there to be alone together. The Turf was a lot more than a place to cash your relief check and buy cheap food and booze. It was a haven.
As government services are being gutted on all sides, the official havens, the shelters and social services, are disappearing. Now the unofficial havens are disappearing, too.
Where will all those people go now?
Rosas says the place is calmer now, and that a lot of the regulars have drifted away. The nearby Starbucks used to send people who wanted to use their restroom to the Turf; now they’re referring people there for lunch. And another thing changed in the swap to Ludi’s—Rosas has had to retire his old joke. “People thought it was a dive,” he says, “and I’d tell them: ‘I don’t even know how to swim!'”
Good-bye, Turf. ![]()
* He vetoed my moving in, by the way, for reasons he never fully explained. At the time, my friend said he was just a capricious guy, a heavy drinker who made all kinds of weird, inexplicable decisions. But over the years, I’ve come to think he saw the youthful idiocy of my proposing to live in a toolshed. At the time, I felt a little hurt—but now I realize he was probably doing me a favor.
** The Turf has also inspired some embarrassing writing over the years: writers who overemphasized its seediness so that they could indulge in faux-Beat rhapsodies or writers who overdramatized how “intimidating” it was. I hope these memories do not contribute to that canon.

3rd AVE TURF! FOREVER!
Theres always Joe’s in the ID
I ate breakfast at the 1st & Pike location ages ago (probably in the late 90s) during a visit before I moved here. That meal was infamous. As much for the “WTF is this place?” factor (you needed tokens from the pull tab lady to use the women’s bathroom) as for the degree of hangover my friend and I were experiencing at the time. We coined the term “differentiating the shakes” while reading the menu. That’s a term still in use to this day.
That said, servers were kind (the description is of the clientele in the article is pretty spot on from my memory), the coffee was hot and the food was better than the meal we had at the Rendezvous Broiler (whooo boy!) a year or so later.
Viva the Turf!
Mr. Kiley’s second post-script: “** The Turf has also inspired some embarrassing writing over the years: writers who overemphasized its seediness so that they could indulge in faux-Beat rhapsodies or writers who overdramatized how “intimidating” it was. I hope these memories do not contribute to that canon.”
Sorry…they did!
seriously its not dead stranger…its the same place they charge 50 cents more for everything and thats it. way to over dramatize
I will miss the Turf. It has been one of the last standing memories of my youth. In the early to mid 90’s I spent most of my adolescent days and nights running around the 100 block of Pike with my other hoodlum friends. Many of their parents or older siblings, aunts, uncles hung out at the Turf. We’d stop in time by time asking them for a little spending money for food, or drugs or to pay our parents phone bills. We would make fun of it yet we all had a connection to it. It was part of our neighborhood. Pike Street has changed dramatically since the 90’s. The old arcade on the corner, the adult arcade that was upstairs from the wig shop, the Vu…it has all been traded for nicer venues. It is a sad day as the author of this article states “the Turf was for the poor” and it was a meeting place for years, now the “poor” can no longer afford it.
My favorite memory of The Turf was a standoff right outside the restaurant between Seattle cops and a homeless guy with a samurai sword, circa 1997. Lasted ten hours. Somehow, it epitomized the legacy of the restaurant itself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtRgweQxX…
I only went once, and recently, but the drink was strong, and cheap.
what’ll Ludi’s be like?
[See post #7]
I remember the sword guy. Traffic, including my daily-commute Metro bus was stagnant for hours. When I finally got home and found out what the hassle was, we all thought “Jesus Christ. Hasn’t anyone ever heard of fire hoses? It was a bad day for Seattle P.D.
Brendan, your writing is beautiful in its directness and lack of affectation. I had some very, very bad food at The Turf once and never went back, but your eulogy made me see the good in the place.
It’s the same place with slightly higher prices. NEXT…
It won’t be the same place if the poor are priced out. The whole thing will change, and it’ll become hollow and phony. That’s what always happens when working-class places are taken over by the middle class and up.
@12 – Oh, those HORRIBLE “Middle Class” …