The gays win again: Newcastle’s city council voted two weeks ago not to raise a Pride flag at City Hall. At the time, Mayor Robert Clark said raising the flag would lead to a slippery slopeโif they raised the Pride flag, then they’d also have to raise the Hamas flag, a MAGA flag, or even an Antifa flag, KOMO reports. After a flood of people spoke up during public testimony and called bullshit, the council reversed that decision in a 4-3 vote Tuesday and the City put the flag up. But before the vote, the mayor railed against the “hate” in the “midst” of the pride movement and registered his staunch opposition to recognizing the ongoing legacy of slavery and Jim Crow in contemporary society as well as any attempts that seek to repair it.ย
Cop stops former deputy mayor in what she called a “stop and frisk”: A Seattle police officer stopped former Senior Deputy Mayor Monisha Harrell in Greenwood on Sunday and told her he was checking for stolen vehicles in the area, Publicola reports. Harrell, the mayor’s niece, stepped down in September after reported disagreements with other city leaders about public safety. She says the stop was an example of racial profiling. SPD says the stop was part of the officer’s training and “was made because the [license] plate was obscured by a dark license plate cover,” the department told Publicola.
Mass layoffs at the Everett Herald: The Daily Herald‘s new owners cut more than half of the newsroom’s jobs Wednesday in part of a series of layoffs across Sound Publishing. The company laid off two editors plus 10 reporters, photographers, and designers. The cuts leave just one photographer, no full-time designers or digital staff, and a handful of reporters and editors. Publisher Rudi Alcott claimed “readers won’t notice” changes from the cuts. Lol fuck off.ย
๐งต(1/5) Today, Carpenter Media Group announced layoffs affecting more than half of newsroom staff @EverettHerald, effective July 1.
This will undoubtedly harm and weaken our newsroom.
Rest assured, we will fight for each and every one of our affected colleagues.
โ Everett NewsGuild (@EverettGuild) June 19, 2024
Experts assure us there’s no need to worry about the little earthquakes under Mount St. Helens: Hundreds of small earthquakes below Mount St. Helens signal increasing magma levels beneath our region’s most seismically active volcano, but the United States Geological Survey “emphasized that this increase in activity does not indicate any increased threat or danger associated with the mountain,” KING 5 reports.ย
Pierce County deputies shoot, injure man: Deputies shot the man early Wednesday after responding to a call about an argument, though details are unclear. KIRO reports the 911 caller said her brother had a knife, deputies attempted to talk to him, he ran to a shed, and “deputies reported that shots were fired and a man was hit.” The man is now in critical condition.
MAX crash families seek fine, criminal charge against Boeing: Some families of people killed in two Boeing 737 MAX crashes in 2018 and 2019 say federal officials should fine Boeing $24.8 billion and pursue a criminal charge against the company. The ask comes as the Justice Department began reconsidering a prosecution that paused three years ago after Boeing struck a deal to meet certain safety conditions. Federal prosecutors said in May Boeing did not comply with the terms of that agreement.ย
The weather: Yesterday was gorgeous, and today will follow suit. Expect highs near 80 in Seattle today through Saturday.ย
Seattle is dying: “Rainier Square … saw robust leasing activity in the first quarter as users ate away at more of the 720,000 square feet that Amazon never occupied,” the Puget Sound Business Journal reports.ย
kind of remarkable. when amazon chose not to fill rainier square, it felt like the sky might be falling. one pandemic later and it’s one of the more occupied towers in downtown seattle. good find from @MarcStilesPSBJ https://t.co/8dzIhYc3mi
โ alex halverson (@AlexPSBJ) June 19, 2024
Holocaust Center for Humanity vandalized: Someone wrote “Genocide in Gaza” on the window of the Holocaust Center in Belltown and the police are now investigating the vandalism as a hate crime, KOMO reports. Quit fucking tagging Jewish institutions; you’re co-opting an anti-genocide movement with antisemitic nonsense.ย
43rd Legislative District Dems condemn Democratic Congressman Adam Smith: On a podcast, Rep. Smith called protesters who shouted him down at a recent town hall and others who protested at his house “leftwing fascists” and “totalitarians” who only aim to intimidate and silence those who disagree with them on, you know, not sending weapons to Israel, a country currently slaughtering en masse people it has caged in an open-air prison for years. In a recent meeting, the 43rd LD Dems called bullshit on Smith’s remarks, censured him, and reaffirmed the rights of peaceful protesters.ย
Sue Rahr is ready to lead on good vibes: The new interim chief of the Seattle Police Department tells the local Fox affiliate that she’s “getting great ideas from the front line.” Rahr describes herself as a “coach” who doesn’t plan to “strap on a gun belt and pretend that I’m still competent to work the streets” and won’t be extending her six-month stay.ย
I really need the polls to do something different:
Donald Trump is currently beating Biden in the polls, despite the fact that his campaign aired no advertisements in May, while the president flooded swing states with propaganda.
And Biden’s air advantage won’t hold: Trump is closing the fundraising gap https://t.co/ygJrEvfZOZ pic.twitter.com/OImfGmHCXT
โ Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) June 19, 2024
Get off of my cloud: Wall Street freaks and Silicon Valley goons obsessed with trying to find One Weird Trick to solve every problem are paying University of Washington scientists to brighten clouds, but earlier this month yet another city told the researchers to leave their clouds the fuck alone, Politico reports. The scientists think brightening the clouds will reflect some sunlight away from the Earth and help reduce global warming, which might be true, but imagine if these philanthropists spent as much money trying to get Congress to pass a Green New Deal as they did on this shit.ย
SCOTUS rulings: Today the Supreme Court upheld a tax on unrealized gains, which would be good news for wealth tax supporters if Justice Kavanaugh hadn’t written the opinion so narrowly. In another ruling, the clerics decided that prosecutors can use testimony about what “most people” do against defendants. Many people are saying that’s dumb.ย ย
Anyway, the cases I’m still waiting on are:
Trump immunity, J6 terrorists on obstruction, Chevron deference, Guns for domestic abusers, and how close to death women have to be before they are allowed to receive medical care.Am I missing anything else big?
โ Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) June 20, 2024
Big news: Lily Munster’s (nรฉe Dracula) dental bridge sold at auction. The hot-tempered Munster matriarch’s mouth gear went for $1,040. Halloween is just around the corner.ย
These kids don’t need Jesus, they need math teachers: On Wednesday, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry signed a blatantly unconstitutional law requiring schools to display the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms, the Washington Post reports. The law requires the displays to be “at least eleven inches by fourteen inches,” and schools must use “donated posters or spend donated money, rather than public funds, to purchase the displays.” US News and World Report ranks Louisiana K-12 education as 40th in the country. Landry says he “cant wait” to be sued.ย
Moses Ten Commandments – Mel Brooks . . . pic.twitter.com/9CvtE2dvKO
โ Funny Video Express (@FunnyVideoXP) April 16, 2024
Draft parity talks reemerge: Members of Congress will mull a Senate proposal to extend the selective service requirement to women, and another proposal to automatically register men between the ages of 18 and 25 for the service, according to the New York Times. Republicans like the latter proposal but don’t like the former. Honestly, making women eligible for the draft and even bringing it back sounds like a good way to make people care about foreign policy in more serious ways and reduce the power of The Blob, which would probably make the world a less violent place.ย
Israel v Lebanon war heats up: Yesterday Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah “threatened to invade northern Israel if a full-scale war with Israel broke out,” and Israel said that “operational plans for an offensive in Lebanon had been ‘approved and validated,'” according to the BBC. Hezbollah will stop if Israel signs the ceasefire agreement, but Netanyahu wants more war. A full-scale invasion of Lebanon could draw Iran into the war, which would draw the US into the war even more than we already are, and death and destruction would spread.ย
Houthis sink another vessel in the Red Sea: Last week Houthi fighters attacked a Greek ship, and that ship has now sunk, Al Jazeera reports. Houthis have been attacking ships with drones and explosives in an attempt to pressure Israel into agreeing to a ceasefire. They’ve hit some US ships, and in response we’ve conducted 400 airstrikes on Yemen, a strategy that doesn’t appear to be working.ย
I leave you with Phil Cordell’s “Red Lady.” Enjoy the sun!
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“(Y)ou’re co-opting an anti-genocide movement with antisemitic nonsense.”
Well, what do you expect when rooting out a terrorist organization that uses civilians as human shields is routinely exaggerated as ‘genocide’ to the point of hyperbole?
My God it is a gorgeous day!
Yeah! Quit exaggerating about the murder of 10,000’s of innocent women, children and men. Goddammit! and quit exaggerating about the deliberate starving of millions. All of it is necessary! Bloody hell snowflakes!
Great Slog AM, cheers
“…not sending weapons to Israel, a country currently slaughtering en masse people it has caged in an open-air prison for years.”
Yet, just yesterday, Netanyahu accused the US of NOT sending them weapons. Which is it, journalists?
“Red Lady”? “Beware of the Blob” was right there.
Headline, Real or Onion?
โAlt-Weekly Stops Screaming โGenocide in Gazaโ at Israel Just Long Enough to Scream at Vandals Who Tagged Jewish Center with โGenocide in Gazaโ Graffiti.โ
Also, was it DSA or Socialist Alternative who took over 43rd District Dems awhile back? Sounds like theyโre still in charge there.
@6 sounds like Netanyahu is already making up excuses for his failure to deliver an impossible task: eradicate Hamas while expanding Israel’s borders, as well as feeding talking points to Trump because we know who Netanyahu would prefer in the White House
Meanwhile, at IDF headquarters: โTo say that we are going to make Hamas disappear is to throw sand in peopleโs eyes. If we donโt provide an alternative, in the end, we will have Hamas,โ Rear Adm Daniel Hagari told Israelโs Channel 13 broadcaster.
Which version of the 10 commandments will they require in Louisiana? Or is any ol’ version ok? Could I make up my own version and donate posters with that? Do they have experts who can ascertain if this version or that version is sufficiently pious and edifying?
@9 The 43rd District Dems left the Dem party long ago. This is the group that changed their endorsement process to endorse non dems in 2019 so they could endorse Shaun Scott and Sawant. The current chair spends most of his time trying to tear down actual Dems in the city. I don’t give any weight to anything they say or do.
@12 given that you appear to be somewhere to the right of Gengis Khan, it is doubtful that’ll agree with progressive Democrats, like the 43rd
” In another ruling, the clerics ” Supreme Court Justices are not Clerics in a real sense of the word unless you are suggesting that they are there to install a religious order, which is not clear.
They have clerks they aren’t clerks either.
@13 my politics notwithstanding for a Democratic group to change their policies to endorse people who aren’t part of the party seems like a big warning flag that actual Dems should feel free to ignore anything they have to say.
@15 I cannot see any good reason why it should be the case, thus millions of Democrats wanted to see Sanders president because he represented them much better than Clinton or Biden even though he is not a member of the Democratic party. In spite of your denial, I’d wager that your political views have much to do with your perspective that choosing a camp is most important, political platform and ethics be damned.
@15 that probably says more about your politics than it does mine. Last I checked Bernie doesn’t go around trying to undermine and sabotage his fellow Democrats the way Scott/Sawant and the 43rd D’s do. The SA and DSA members in the area know they have little hope of winning running under that banner so they hide out amongst Dems as Shaun Scott is doing this cycle and co-opt the district groups like they have with the 43rd and 34th (they endorsed both NTK and Oliver in 2021). If you don’t want to support the platform of the Democratic Party and its candidates than don’t be a Democrat, it really is that simple.
@18 is obviously for @16
โQuit
fucking tagging
Jewish institutions;
you’re co-opting an anti-genocide
movement with antisemitic nonsense.โ
thank you
Rich nevermind
our pro-Genociders*
denying itโs Genocide
their Facts never getting
in the way of their Humanity
*soon to have their
Bloodlust re-sa-
red [for Now]:
ever-
More retaliation
escalation you hit
ME first. No. YOU did
Ad infinitium
So:
whom
do we
Thank for our
nukular Annihilation?
@10: Sounds like we need demonstrations worldwide, in major cities and universities, demanding governments work with Israel to destroy Hamas. Given Hamas is a violently misogynistic, anti-LGBTQ, jihadi organization, funded by the women-beating regime in Iran, and climate-destroying petrodollars from Qatar, rousing the citizens of western democracies to protest Hamas would seem like a pretty easy ask, right?
Right?
(Cricketsโฆ)
@16 Sanders officially joined the Democratic Party in 2015 in order to run for its nomination in 2016, 2018, and again in 2019 in order to be eligible to run for Democratic nominations and use DNC resources.
@20 correction:
*soon to have their
Bloodlust re-sa-
Ted [for Now]:
[wow.
the “[”
Moves
all by its-
Self. cool!]
@22: โItโs really a shame many of Bernieโs supporters couldnโt accept their defeat to rally around the partyโs chosen candidate.โ
Or accept his subsequent endorsement of her. Their belief in his good judgement and leadership ended abruptly right there, apparently.
it’s More of a Shame
that Hills didn’t heed
Bernie’s Call for a more
Egalitarian society — fucking
Eltrumpfster DID & when Hills
didn’t fucking even fucking BOTHER
to campaign in … one of those too-close
to-call Lake States and BERNIE campaigned
harder for Hills than She fucking did. but yeah
blame it on the one
whose Platform
is Endorsed
by MOST
fucking
Amer-
icans
maybe
even
You
she wouldda
fucking WON.
but – good
Talking Point!
and Remember:
NEVER Blame
the “D”NC*
*LLC,
Bitches!
@2 C Dizzle (Garb Garblar?): +1 It surely was, and is again today! My beloved VW and I took a little drive with the top down. Hooray for longer days of daylight, warmth, and sunshine. Happy Summer Solstice at long last! ๐
WTF is WRONG with legislators and public school administrators in the Deep Fried Southern States of MAGAt confusion?? 10 Commandments, my ass. All the rabid RWNJs want to “teach” is hatred, hypocrisy, neofascism, corruption, fear, stupidity, ignorance, misogyny, violent chaos, and systematic racism.
it’s More of a Shame
that Hills didn’t heed
Bernie’s Call for a more
Egalitarian society — fucking
Eltrumpfster DID — but on Day One he
‘forgot’ and then he Never mentioned it again
tho did Promise US an
Infrastructure Week
but promptly for-
got about That
too and Here
yet again
we Are.
@25 kristofarian: I just can’t handle a reenactment of the Orange Turd stolen election year 2016! 2024 threatens to be exponentially WORSE, nationally and globally. Why the fuck ISN’T the Orange Turd rotting in prison??
If the dystopian nightmare of Turd 2025 happens, I predict that all foreign countries who were our allies during WWII will just say ‘fuck it’ and aim all nuclear warheads this time at the Deeply Divided States as the world burns.
We have been warned.
@27 kristofarian: Just imagine what a utopian universe we COULD have had if Al Gore had gained executive control of the White House in 2001, and if Hillary Clinton had rightfully made history as the first woman President of the United States in 2017.
@18 errrr, the idea is that Democratic party members decide the platform, not the other way around. What does it say about me? simple, that I am a Democrat for democracy because I want the party to represent its constituents.
@21a I see, more of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” sorry logic. According to you, to get rid of Hamas, a profoundly regressive organization that practices terror, I should enable Israel’s colonial project that involves systemic discrimination, ethnic cleansing and genocide. Your proposition is not only quite immoral but it is also dead wrong because the only policy that will get rid of terror in Palestine is a compromise like two states or one secular state where all religions coexist.
@21b You got me there, although Sanders still calls himself an independent.
Almost 90% of Bernieโs voters supported Clinton in the general. By contrast, 25% of Clintonโs primary voters in 2008 ended up voting for McCain.
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
What is the point of Newcastle even being independent? They outsource their school management to Renton and Issaquah, they already outsource their fire department to Bellevue, etc. Bellevue or Renton should just annex them and be done with it.
Oh please give us more neoliberals in office, can’t get enough, it’s the only viable option! Yum yum neoliberalism for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, can’t get enough!
@22 Do you have a comprehensive reference to support your statement regarding “many Sanders supporters not voting for Clinton”. It’s a fact that Clinton lost the electoral college in the rust belt where workers got screwed by outsourcing and where she didn’t bother to campaign. Are you saying there are many Sanders supporters in the rust belt?
@30 yes, Democratic party members decide the platform but when that platform is decided and one group decides they don’t really like it and want to do their own thing, endorse candidates who not only don’t support said platform but campaign against it and undermine other candidates who do support said platform then I don’t really think they should be considered part of the party anymore. They are free to create their own platform and their own party. AOC had a great quote a few years ago when asked if she would support Biden should he win the White House stating “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party” and she’s right. She’s not a Democrat and the only reason she runs as one is because its the only way she can win.
@30: โI see, more of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” sorry logic.โ
So, youโre saying the anti-colonialist and thoroughly capitalist United States should NOT have allied with the British Empire and Soviet Russia to defeat Nazi Germany? We should have demanded Britain first divest from Empire, and the Soviet Union completely shut down their gulags, before weโd ally with them? Is that a correct interpretation of your political purity position?
โAccording to you, to get rid of Hamas, a profoundly regressive organization that practices terror, I should enable Israel’s colonial projectโฆโ
Or, you could take advantage of Israel attacking Hamas to organize against Hamas, demanding governments worldwide stop the flow of arms, men, and money to it. I guess your opposition to violently misogynistic jihad just isnโt that strong, eh?
@17 Calling District13Refugee a moderate Democrat tells me you have fallen so far down the MAGA rabbit hole that you think Tea Party conservative Republicans are Democrats, and everyone to the left of Biden (a centrist) is a communist. All you right wing nut jobs have accomplished is to make actual Marxists like Charles look like competent economic theorists.
@39 the fact you think the 43rd Dems endorsing anti Dem socialist Marxist candidates is somehow mainstream demonstrates how completely untethered from reality you are. Come out of your ideological bubble and maybe talk to people who arenโt in socialist alternative for a change.
An Ann Davison supporter worrying about whether candidates are real Democrats is cute
@37 Mercutio: I was only a small child at the time of LBJ’s presidency. What I found most disturbing in the late 1960s and early 1970s was that the Conflict in Vietnam was the first U.S. involved war to be televised.
I never trusted Richard Nixon. Nixon won his second term by a landslide over George McGovern in 1972.
My 3rd grade class had a “mock” election that year. Our teacher explained that while we were then too young to vote, which candidate would be best suited as President of the United States–Nixon, the incumbent, or his Democratic challenger, McGovern?
Thinking like their parents, the overwhelming majority of us, except for me and another classmate–chose Nixon.
Kids in my class gave me weird looks, asking why I had picked McGovern. I responded that I didn’t trust Nixon’s face.
Fast forward to September 1974 when I entered the 5th grade. My same classmates were shellshocked by Nixon’s publicized resignation the previous month. Many asked me what I knew. I just remembered having a gut feeling back then.
neolibs
& centrists
have dragged
the ‘democratic’
party – in order to
keep up with far right
-from the left to where
even Nixon looks like a
fucking Socialist. fucking
‘Citizens United’ revolution-
ized America to hand it all over
to the wealth hoarders
monopolies profiteers
& neolibs’re happily
riding the wave of
fascism lite. for
now
@42 thinking there was any choice between Davison and NTK is another sign you are immersed in an idealogical bubble. Please do come outside.
@45 wait now I’m confused, is it sometimes ok for Democrats to support non-Democrats, or not? Or is it just that it’s ok for YOU to support a non-Democrat but not for people with whom you disagree to do so?
@36 It’s rather farfetched to claim that not cheer-leading for genocide amounts to “political purity”. It’s a pretty low bar that you are unable to clear unfortunately.
Israel is not fighting Hamas (and mass murders Palestinians) because it is a regressive organization that commits acts of terror but because it opposes their attempts at seizing the whole of Palestine away from its original inhabitants. Opponents of Israel’s expansionism end up in jail or worse whether they are violent or not like Rachel Corrie or the many individuals (including children, journalists and healthcare personnel) killed or maimed by snipers. Needless to say that Zionists themselves have had and continue to have their share of regressives and terrorists so what makes Hamas the object of demonization is hardly exceptional. You’d be hard pressed to name a single anti-colonial movement that didn’t commit acts of terror during wars of independence for example.
The allies didn’t fight the Nazis to seize and colonize but to eliminate a scourge that murdered masses of people, which we knew at the very least in 1941 (and likely before). It’s a very poor comparison and the war that even pacifists usually say couldn’t be avoided.
@46 People can vote for whoever they think is the best candidate. In the case of Davison and NTK neither was a democrat but Davison was much closer despite TS trying to tie her to the MAGA label. That is irrelevant. The topic of discussion was should local political party groups who endorse candidates and platforms that conflict with the national party (and in the case of the 43rd undermine the party platform and campaign against its candidates) have any credibility with voters of that party. I still think no.
@48 so your opinion is that a local party group should not, in a nonpartisan race, endorse a candidate who nonetheless identifies with that party but whose platform is insufficiently deferential to the national party committee? This isn’t the USSR
@41, I understand that you have probably never even made it to a Democratic precinct caucus, much less one at the legislative district level, and this is one of those times I strongly suspect you don’t even live near Seattle. City council races are non-partisan. More importantly, most Democratic folks who are active in the party in Seattle tend to be far more focused on progressive policies than party loyalty. Any real progressive Democrat will always prefer someone from the Socialist Alternative like Kshama Sawant than a ConservaDem like a Joe Manchin. So we will always support the outsider who will caucus with us and advance progressive legislation than a ConservaDem who while caucusing with the Democrats, votes against the party more than with.
@50: โAny real progressive Democratโฆโ
The phrase you wanted there was, โNo True Scotsman.โ
โโฆ someone from the Socialist Alternative like Kshama Sawantโฆโ
Someone who constantly hectored Democrats as sellouts and corporate whores? Someone whose organization explicitly wanted to replace the Democrats in Seattle? Thatโs who they preferred?
CM Sawant limped impotently out of office, after one of the most liberal constituencies in the entire country almost recalled her; she staved them off only by using gobs of out-of-city money to pay for a vote-harvesting operation. This is the type of person who gets support from โreal progressive Democratsโ? How many of those are there in all of Seattle, then โ twelve? A hundred?
@51 many (most?) Democrat pols are sellouts and corporate whores. And I think what you meant to write was Sawant left office at the time of her own choosing after successfully defeating multiple out-of-district funded challengers and a recall effort. Apparently there are a good amount of “real progressive Democrats” in Seattle, possibly because many of the sellouts and corporate whores followed your example and moved elsewhere.
@52: โmany (most?) Democrat pols are sellouts and corporate whoresโ
No doubt they prefer you, for having told them that. (Just ask Bob.)
โAnd I think what you meant to write wasโฆโ
You think wrong. What I meant to write was, โshe limped impotently out of office, after one of the most liberal constituencies in the entire country almost recalled her; she staved them off only by using gobs of out-of-city money to pay for a vote-harvesting operation.โ
I could add she recognized (or was told) constantly fighting ever-larger numbers of District 3โs voters meant she would lose sooner rather than later, so she quit ahead of being fired. She almost lost when she didnโt even have an opponent, so sticking around for the inevitable strong challenger made no sense.
@47: First, back to the point you made @30, where you equated opposing Hamas to helping Israel: “…to get rid of Hamas, a profoundly regressive organization that practices terror, I should enable Israel’s colonial project that involves systemic discrimination, ethnic cleansing and genocide.”
So, to get rid of Nazi Germany, the United States allied with the British Empire and the Soviet Union, two countries whose policies (imperial colonialism and expansionist totalitarianism, respectively) we found abhorrent. According to your logic, our alliances were “quite immoral,” and we should not have partaken in them.
Helping the British Empire meant helping history’s greatest colonialist enterprise ever. Helping the Soviet Union meant supporting both the gulag, and the NKVD execution squads. Yet those are ok in your book?
Destroying Hamas is something every person who holds Western values should enthusiastically endorse, no matter whom they kidnap, rape, and slaughter; yet, you refuse, on the flimsy claim that Israel is the greater evil. You even make excuses for Hamas’ terrorism, by insulting freedom fighters worldwide over centuries:
“You’d be hard pressed to name a single anti-colonial movement that didn’t commit acts of terror during wars of independence for example.”
Sure, tell us all about the loyalist American colonists who were raped and murdered by Patriots, during the American War of Independence. Ditto the conservative Irishwomen who were raped and murdered by the original IRA, during the Irish War of Independence, 1916-1922. And then about the high-ranking British colonists and local allies who were raped and murdered during Ghandi and Nehru’s policy of non-cooperation in India, during WWII. You want to talk “genocide”? Hamas raped and murdered Jews, for being Jews, on land Hamas has declared it will make free of Jews. That’s the very definition of “genocide,” and yet you won’t oppose it. If you’re trying to make some case for your superior moral judgment, you’re not doing a very good job.
Finally, let’s have a laugh at your ludicrous attempts at historical knowledge:
“The allies didn’t fight the Nazis to seize and colonize but to eliminate a scourge that murdered masses of people, which we knew at the very least in 1941 (and likely before).”
The first known admission of mass murder by the Nazi regime came in Himmler’s Posen Addresses of October 1943, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches . If you have information showing the Nazi program of mass murders were widely known and believed outside of Germany “the very least in 1941 (and likely before),” then please cite your source(s).
Britain did not declare war upon Germany over the Holocaust, but over the German invasion of Poland. The United States declared war upon Germany only after Hitler declared war upon the United States; even after Pearl Harbor, FDR thought Congress would declare war only upon Japan, but Hitler saved FDR the trouble of asking.
“…the war that even pacifists usually say couldn’t be avoided.”
The United States successfully avoided it for years, and one Member of Congress voted against declaring war on Japan: “The House adopted the war resolution against Germany by a vote of 393-0. Moments later, it voted, 399-0, to declare war on Italy. On both tallies, Rep. Jeannette Rankin (R-Mont.), a lifelong pacifist who had previously voted against declaring war on Japan, voted present.” (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/11/congress-declares-war-on-nazi-germany-and-italy-dec-11-1941-282980#:~:text=The%20House%20adopted%20the%20war,war%20on%20Japan%2C%20voted%20present.)
@53 that’s an interesting way to spin her never losing an election during a decade-long career. A for effort
@55: Do tell us how much of her program she achieved, during that decade of ever-narrower margins of victory. Please feel free to start with rent control.
@55 Tensor has a very special hatred of Sawant whose reelections proved him and his corporate overlords wrong on several occasions. Spitefully, he has always tried to spin her leaving office on her own terms as if she were defeated.
@54 Your constant cherry picking is tiresome but it’s all you can do so you’ll keep doing it, right? Anyhow your overly long comment is not really worth a response because it contains so much falsehood. Nevertheless, I’ll be kind and give you the shorter and succinct version (which you’ll ignore anyway to construct another strawman argument)
Palestine:
Israel only claims to want to destroy Hamas because it’s an excuse to proceed with ethnic cleansing like they have always done during periods of generalized warfare. Even the command of IDF agrees that getting rid of Hamas isn’t possible. However, TERRORizing Palestinians off their land then deny them the right of return has repeatedly worked in the past, so rinse and repeat.
America:
American colonists were anti-colonial? funny, are you even conscious when you write? Anyhow, yes American patriots killed loyalists in great numbers: “there was a lot of bloodshed, and particularly in the South. And gangs of revolutionaries, gangs of loyalists, would attack each other, go to each other’s plantations. In fact, some of the big battles in the South happened after the surrender at Yorktown. So, what all of this means is that there was a climate of violence and a climate of fear for many loyalists.”
https://www.npr.org/2015/07/03/419824333/what-happened-to-british-loyalists-after-the-revolutionary-war
In other words, in modern parlance, Patriots, Loyalists committed war crimes and acts of terror.
Unfortunately rape is quite common during warfare, and not only, and I’ll leave you to ponder whether some of those gangs of patriots also committed rape but I wouldn’t surprised if they did.
India: ” It began with violence in the late afternoon of May 10 in Meerut with the sepoys destroying government buildings — the jail, record room, kachehri, telegraph office — and going on to destroy the bungalows in which the firangi lived.
The peasants of the surrounding villages participated in the destruction. What accompanied the destruction was the killing of the White population of Meerut, irrespective of gender and age.”
https://www.rediff.com/news/special/the-forgotten-brutality-of-the-1857-mutiny/20170814.htm
I won’t bother answer the rest as I don’t want to spend more time but be sure that it is riddled with non-truth as well.
@54 I forgot to say: let me know when you need another history lesson
@58: In response to your attempted dismissal of Hamasโ terrorism, I generously gave you three actual anti-colonialist conflicts. You managed to use exactly none of them. To get anywhere close to the terrorist brutality Hamas showed just last year, you had to cite a conflict from the days of slavery and serfdom. Even there, you didnโt cite a single example of rape or kidnapping. That alone should tell you just how badly your apologia for Hamasโ terrorism has failed.
The only documented ethnic cleansing Israel ever committed in Gaza was when it removed Jewish settlers. Youโre free to tell us just how well Israelโs anti-settler activity helped bring lasting peace to Gaza. Please, show us your keen understanding of that colonialist history.
@61 “The only documented ethnic cleansing Israel ever committed in Gaza was when it removed Jewish settlers”
Your nonsense knows no bounds
https://jacobin.com/2024/05/ethnic-cleansing-palestine-israel-nakba
@61 the citations I gave you demonstrated without a doubt that according to modern understanding war crime/terrorism was used during these wars of independence (again, calling American colonists “anti-colonialist” must be a joke that only you don’t get). These examples didn’t specifically discuss “rape and kidnapping”, but a) I am not sure why you make it a litmus test of terror as if murdering folk didn’t qualify, and b) it is very likely that if bands of people went around killing and burning, rape was also likely committed.
You are usually fond of claiming that wars have consequences to justify Israel’s multiple land grabs, but now you also claim that Israel didn’t commit ethnic cleansing? so, which is it? Talking with you is a fucking waste of time.
WA State Dems just called for cessation of military aid to Israel and an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Now that the Party has spoken everyone here is going to adopt these positions right?
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/wa-dems-call-for-cease-fire-in-gaza-war-end-to-military-aid-to-israel/
@63. I tried to warn you. It is just a fap session for tensor getting off on your attention.
Hello Rich! Hadn’t seen an article by you for a while, it’s nice to know the stranger’s token white male is still around. Take care and keep your head down…