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Cascadia Now.
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Dude, they're not trying to air condition all of West Covina. Beat it!
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I'm with him until he starts upsetting the foliage. There's no cause for that.
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good thing he's white, otherwise, he'd be shot 20 times for charging at an officer.
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I kind of feel like that guy every time I see a video
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In a country of 319 million people, someone will always be losing their marbles, and the internet and ubiquitous camera phones will make sure you hear of every single incident. Dan, you'll go crazy if you stress out over every video you find on the internets, and then we'll be watching your meltdown through some teenager's shaky phone.
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Untreated mental illness is not fun to witness.
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Maybe he should go back to cleaning the windshields of cars stopped at intersections instead.
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I tried to enjoy this delusional rant but the audio was hard to hear over the 'Verizon' ad that played in the background. SLOG . . . WTF? Stop this senseless intrusion.
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That was good! But if you really want to have fun, go to YouTube and search for "black people fighting in fast food restaurants".
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Yeah, this is less funny ha-ha than plain ol' sad.
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I agree with nocutename. You guys are laughing at mental illness.
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Nothing like a good laugh at the expense of the mentally ill!!!
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I thought the headline meant someone was going to stand up for fucking (having sex with) Christians. Disappointed.

@ 5, that's a pet peeve? What a weird thing to find annoying.
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@14

Is that kosher? I thought fucking Christians is supposed to be done missionary style.
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@14,
We're conditioned to watch stuff in a wide left-to-right format. Watching it like it was shot through a doorframe is unnatural and distracting.
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@ 15, a cursing Christian is already in trouble with the Man Upstairs, so why not?

@ 16, not to me. The action was hard enough to see without a wide frame showing additional distractions.
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#6: you don't get it.



This is yet another example of "Christian" entitlement.



That pervasive attitude among Christians unfortunately has inspired the mentally ill all too much: for instance, doctors assassinated in church and their kitchen.
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Mocking mentally ill people is classless.



Doing it as a form of expressing religious bigotry and hatred is beneath contempt.
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This guy has anger issues . At least he didn't throw his Bible at anyone.
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The unregistered are really mad y'all!
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he eerily resembles that fellow from friday's fracas in dallas.
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What mental illness do you armchair psychiatrists think he has?

Here's a wild idea: Sometimes people are just assholes, no mental illness necessary.

The only reason you want to excuse his behavior as being caused by mental illness is because you identify with this asshole because he's white and male. If he represented any other class of people, you would not excuse his behavior, and you'd be laughing at him along with all the rest of us.
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I see Mark Driscoll has resurfaced quickly...
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Instead of opening the door maybe he should have been opening the book and reading the bits about being nice to people. I'm inclined to agree that he could use some counseling though.
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@23: I have no idea what he suffers from. But that's not sane behavior. Hence, mental illness.

I'm not excusing the behavior or identifying with him. Why you're even bringing race into this is beyond me.

And there's nothing that says that being mentally ill and an asshole are mutually exclusive.
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Admittedly, I haven't watched the video (blood pressure's high enough without putting myself through that), but unless there's something in there people aren't talking about there's no reason for us to consider this man mentally ill. Behaving in a creepy or belligerent manner is not, in itself, an indication of mental illness. In fact, most offenders on those counts are psychologically normal individuals who, as other posters have said, just happen to be assholes or have decided to behave as such for a given point in time.

The fact of the matter is that the human psyche contains a great deal of darkness: fear, pride, and barely-rationalized aggression. We fight against these impulses on a daily basis to maintain a veneer of respectability and civility. If we're exceptionally skilled, we are able to sublimate our less admirable drives to serve our better intentions. But sometimes, no matter how wise, kind, or disciplined we are, these frustrations leak out. In succumbing to these impulses, even the most civilized of us can engage in surprisingly well-planned and intentional acts of douchebaggery and cruelty.

While it's anyone's guess as to what is actually going on with this individual (besides the obvious), I suspect this man is thoroughly ordinary. He probably works at a thoroughly ordinary job, goes to a thoroughly ordinary church, and is thoroughly and ordinarily ignored as thoroughly ordinary people can be. He likely has a thoroughly ordinary interest in what he considers the greater good (in this case, the treatment and status of Christians and Christianity), and harbors thoroughly ordinary frustrations at how Society Doesn't Love God and His People anymore—which probably blends with a personal frustration at how Society Doesn't Love or Care Much For Me in an extraordinarily convenient manner.

So he engages in a passive-aggressive show of ersatz charity, using piety as his shield, and thus can affect the pretense of righteous anger when people rightly ask him to cease his unsettling behavior. No abnormal psychology is needed to understand such motivations; and unless he's exhibited obvious signs of delusions (NOT general religious sentiment, mind you), of hallucinations, or mood swings, or anhedonia, or hyperactivity, or mania, then we cannot say anything about his mental health. In fact, even without seeing the video I can guarantee you that this clip cannot provide you with enough evidence to make any kind of clinical diagnosis.

We like to think that those who act in a manner that we abhor or simply do not approve of are broken, and would change their ways if they were to be fixed. That has held true when homosexuality was listed in the DSM as a mental illness, that held true when enslaved black men and women who desired freedom were branded as drapetomaniacs, that held true when sexually adventurous women were called nymphomaniacs, and it holds true today. We admit now that these were bogus pathologies, invented to enforce an oppressive status quo. If we truly consider ourselves more enlightened than our forebears, then we must understand that the difference between mental illness and mental health cannot be the regard we have for a person or their actions.

If we consider positive things, such as a desire for freedom, love for another adult of the same sex, or exercising sexually agency as stemming from healthy and sane minds, then we must also recognize that negative things, such as passive-aggressive harassment and vandalism, can stem from the same. It does not compel us to approve of the behavior.
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@28: Maybe you should, you know, watch the video.
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good god, you could have watched the video six times in the time it took to vomit that crap out....
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As a physician, I can say that there's nothing in the video that suggests he's mentally ill. It's certainly possible that he is, but screaming loudly, irrationally, irately and in public is neither sensitive nor specific for diagnosing mental illness. The man does, however, appear to entitled and unpleasant.
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I’m surprised so many people were quietly standing around watching him, I would’ve left for fear that the Christian would be armed. And then I would have called 911.
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Thug
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a diagnosis based on 80 seconds of video?



what a horse's ass you are.....
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Well played, @24!
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@23, you're assuming all of us are white and male and are identifying with him? Geezus.

@31, "as a physician" you can't say anything of the sort, unless you're a psychiatrist with a number of years' experience in diagnosis. And even then.
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The tag mental illness is not some get out of jail free card. Unless someone is in a psychotic state, one has some power over ones behaviour..
This guy seems to be indulging his anger. His ego was hurt, because they didn't thank him for opening the door all day. Sounds a bit lonely,
Anger itself, can lead to mental impairment. Lack of empathy etc. as I'm sure most of us have experienced- if we have felt or had anger directed at us.
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@28.. Enjoyed your musings.
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y'all want fries with that tirade?
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Crazy or asshole, the guy is obviously whacked out enough that his failure to adhere to Christian principles is not some big irony, as one might infer from the headline. There are so many sanctimonious Christian pricks out there. Why waste a pixel on this guy?
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@34... Actually, that (@31) was a NON-diagnosis. All y'all who are diagnosing the ranter as "mentally ill" — on the basis of a skinny little 2-minute video — you are off base. What @37 said.

As a mentally ill person myself, I take exception to mental illness being the dumping ground for generic asshole behaviour. The guy has anger management problems, yes. Allowing his anger to escalate into throwing stuff around and all. But that doesn't make him mentally ill.

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Okay, I don't know how you all are using the mental illness thing, but when I said it, I wasn't trying to excuse his behavior or to use it as a "dumping ground for generic asshole behavior." I saw people making fun, having a laugh at someone whom I see as greatly disturbed in some way. He may indeed have anger management issues. But he also stood in an In-N-Out Burger establishment all day holding a bible and holding the door open, seeing some connection between these two acts, and then he went ballistic when the staff didn't thank him. That isn't normal behavior. I don't know what motivated him or what he was thinking, but it would appear that his thinking was disordered and that he was disturbed. That's all. And I don't think it's funny to make fun of people I think are mentally disturbed. That's just me; you all are free to do as you like.

If you think that's merely the way an asshole acts . . . well, I've known and seen a lot of assholes, and most of them wouldn't position themselves in a fast food restaurant for an entire day with a bible in hand and stand there as a doorman. Then demand to be thanked. Then fly into that level of rage while ranting incoherently.
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I'm guessing that a childhood steeped in cosmic fantasy - of demons, an Angry/Loving Sky-Daddy, of virgin births and raisings of the dead, miracles, and whatnot - may have contributed in some way to this guy's tentative grasp on sanity. It certainly cannot have helped. One man's fevered imaginings is another man's Sacred Truth, and whatnot.

This guy isn't saying anything nearly as crazy as what you'll find in Ezekiel or Revelation, or really any other portion of his favored Bronze Age Book of Just-So Stories.
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I am "for" fucking christians, so long as they're attractive, charming, and if we start talking about cosmology, it's free of deference to beliefs simply because they're beliefs.

Mormons are another story. Avoid.
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@40 -- I'd say this guy is very much sticking to christ-like behavior. J-dog compelled his followers to evangelize, to have little regard for what those who didn't embrace his message thought of them, to regard them with contempt. Why he even announced that he was bringing his message "on the end of a sword." Jesus was solidly in loudmouth dickhead territory. Enough so that when the Roman garrison asked him not be such a rabble-rouser and to STFU, he turned his antics up to 11 and got his dumb ass killed as a result.
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@36 Actually I can say all that without being a psychiatrist. Psychiatrists are not the only physicians (or more generally, providers) who are capable of diagnosing and managing various mental illnesses. I routinely diagnose, counsel, and prescribe for mental illnesses, as do hundreds of thousands of other non-psychiatrist MD/DO/NP/PAs every day. The majority of care for people with mental illnesses is provided by primary care providers and most people with a diagnosed mental illness areally not treated by a psychiatrist, nor

do they need to be.
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@45

If you're going to be a bigot, at least understand the facts insofar as they're known. Roman records from that time and area are sparse, and make no mention of Christ. The gospels do, and while bigots like you condemn them hostorians routinely use sources like them if only because they're often all we have.

The Romans crucified Christ at the request of Jewish religious authorities. The message of Christ didn't affect them. Pay your taxes and respect civil authority are hardly statements these guys were going to try to censor.

The message of Christ did threaten the religious authorities at the time and it was they who tried and condemned Christ, whose execution was necessarily perormed by the civil authority, the Romans at their request.

As to evangelizing, if I see a man walking to his destruction advising him of his danger isn't hateful, it's helpful. Even if I'm wrong as you believe, the intent oh s still concern for the welfare of others, hardly a thing to be discouraged.

You're welcome, and God bless you.
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@47:

LOOK, THERE! EVIL, PURE AND SIMPLE!
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@47 Goddamn, don't you ever get tired of lecturing people about things that you know very little about?



Maybe use that time to go read just one book about the historical information available about the life and times of Jesus.
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@49 Subhumanblues did read one book, this one



http://www.biblesbythecase.com/978078143…



That of course is the only book Subhumanblues has read.
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The asking for a free meal is telling to me. He said "I want a free meal for being disrespected".

He was holding the door in a effort to scam a free burger. "If I just pretend this is a real job maybe they'll pay me with a sandwich". Kook.

I don't see mental illness. I see a petulant asshole.
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sounds like a normal christian to me
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He can justify his behavior by comparing his tirade to Jesus with the moneychangers in the temple. There's an excuse for literally anything in the Bible if you're willing to be loose enough with the interpretation.
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Funny, most door-holders who blow up about ingratitude proclaim themselves Nice Guys(TM), not Christians, and demand a date, not a burger.

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